[X] - Something is wrong with Neji, he's never avoided you like this before. You need to find out what that is.
-[X] Stunt: You step through the underbrush, meeting Neji's eyes, questioning look pinning his gaze in a stare as few have ever done to a Hyuuga's white gaze, "So, Neji, what's bothering you?". He turns away, Sagacious Reading of Intent catching a flicker of his purpose in the motion, "Or would you rather have a spar than a chat?". You juggle a kunai with false casualness, getting into a ready stance, "Maybe we have a little stress to work out, going by the training dummy." Or as Gai-sensei calls it, communicating with our fists
 
[X] - Something is wrong with Neji, he's never avoided you like this before. You need to find out what that is.
-[X] - Stunt?
--[X] Time to take your rival's advice. You will make him listen to you, if that's what it takes. "I found out something about Gaara that you need to know if Sasuke doesn't beat him. But first, you're going to explain to me why you've been avoiding me like this lately. Training separately I can understand, but not even talking to me? Neji, we might be competitors, but we're still teammates. What's wrong?"

Plus if the Uchiha can beat Gaara, that means Neji doesn't have too...

Even if Orochimaru wasn't planning anything, she'd still be in for a real surprise...
 
3rd Edition Chakra/Jutsu Rules
Hello again, it's me, not leaving well enough alone...again. So first off a minor book-keeping thing I forgot to put in the last update you guys earned +2 XP towards increasing your Lore from the last update. Got it? Good. I'll delete this after a bit, just figured I'd let people know in a threadmark.

The main thrust of this is that I'm revising the Chakra Rules (again) because I'm not happy with their previous iteration (again). Largely because they do not line up with what I'm actually envisioning. We see multiple instances in canon of genin learning fairly advanced techniques, and under the current system that just doesn't work. So I'm changing it.

From now on (and I'll update as necessary), the Chakra Pool will largely stay the same (for now at least). However, Justu will now require a (Wits+Occult) check to Cast (Ninjutsu and Genjutsu are both valid specializations). The level of success required to successfully cast is determined by the Jutsu's Difficulty.

Difficulty Ratings (Examples):
E-Rank: 1-2
D-Rank: 2-3
C-Rank: 3-4
B-Rank: 5-6
A-Rank: 7-8
S-Rank: 9+

So each Jutsu has a Chakra Cost and a Difficulty Rating, so once you've learned how to properly cast the Jutsu, as long as you have enough chakra from the cost and pass the check you successfully use the Jutsu. Simple enough. If you miscast a Jutsu, you still pay the cost, but nothing happens.

Chakra Skill:
I'm keeping the Chakra Skill system, because I do like it, but what it is affecting is changed. First off, it no longer affects what Jutsu you can learn. You can technically learn any justu as long as you have learned any prerequisite Jutsu (whether or not you can actually cast it is another matter entirely). Instead, Chakra Skill gives automatic successes towards casting. So, as Tenten currently has a Chakra Skill of 2, she gets 2 automatic successes towards any Jutsu she wants to use.

The other usage of Chakra Skill is in determining how much Jutsu cost. The base cost of a Jutsu assumes that your Chakra Skill is equal to the Jutsu Difficulty. If you are casting a Jutsu that is more difficult than your Chakra Skill it will be higher (the bigger the difference, the higher the cost). Likewise, if you are casting a Jutsu with a difficult lower than your Skill, the cost will be low, or even negligible. The exact malus and discount rate is something I'm still fiddling with, but I should have that ironed out by the end of the day.

Finally, yes, to answer the obvious question, this means Tenten can cheat with an Occult Excellency to use Jutsu way over her head. However, you still take the penalty from having a low Chakra skill.

If anyone has any questions or comments, please let me know. I'm still ironing this out, so now is the time to provide feedback.
 
I'm probably missing something but this sounds like with this system, low level techniques can basically be done at will at a high enough level, while more advanced techniques have a greater risk of failure. That does seem to match what I remember from the anime/manga.

And of course Glorious Solar Bullshit allows one to preform an advanced technique in a pinch. Hmm, that's an idea...
 
I'm probably missing something but this sounds like with this system, low level techniques can basically be done at will at a high enough level, while more advanced techniques have a greater risk of failure. That does seem to match what I remember from the anime/manga.

And of course Glorious Solar Bullshit allows one to preform an advanced technique in a pinch. Hmm, that's an idea...
Yes, that is largely the intent of the new system, letting you guys play with more advanced Jutsu in a way the old system didn't.
 
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Also to clarify the Fist Communications basically leverages a spar with Sagacious Reading of Intent to get Neji to literally show his emotions by combat(because we already know he doesn't like to talk much), then we can address issues. It's not just taking a swing at him because I wanted to see how we stacked up.
 
So first off a minor book-keeping thing I forgot to put in the last update you guys earned +2 XP towards increasing your Lore from the last update.
Excellent.

If anyone has any questions or comments, please let me know. I'm still ironing this out, so now is the time to provide feedback.
Consider how the exotic nintaijutsu techniques such as the Lotus and the Jyuken techniques, let alone shit like the Kaguya did, work under this system. And also how WP expenditure interacts with this system.

Because while it would be hilarious to watch Neji pull a Kaiten, or Lee do the Lotus, and then blow WP and an Occult Excellency to replicate it(Martial Arts Favored, so possible)? I'm not sure that's something you're aiming for.
Would make a hilarious omake, though.

~Don't show your jutsu around me, true player for real~:V
Oh yeah, and before I forgot, I've decided that Chakra is a valid Awareness Specialization.
Want it.
I was already hoping to buy Angle-Tracing Edge because it's a Permanent charm that does turn you into a sensor at E3; the Abyssal Mirror even explicitly mentions tracking killing intent.
 
Also to clarify the Fist Communications basically leverages a spar with Sagacious Reading of Intent to get Neji to literally show his emotions by combat(because we already know he doesn't like to talk much), then we can address issues. It's not just taking a swing at him because I wanted to see how we stacked up.
Sagacious Reading of Intent only works with text and speech.
 
A thought occurs on how to organically expand Tenten's ninjutsu arsenal and specialization: hair manipulation ninjutsu. It's a surprisingly large school in canon:
1) Defensive Needle Jizo.
2) Offensive Needle Hell and Hair Needle Senbon.
3) Binding Wild Lion's Mane, Hair Binding, Chakra Hair Trap techniques
4) Stealth Hair Camouflage (anime only).

Basically, this might be a good area to branch into, and it meshes well with Tenten's style. hair can be used as strings to control thrown weapons, hardened to be thrown as senbon, serve as a shield and as a sword.
Consider how the exotic nintaijutsu techniques such as the Lotus and the Jyuken techniques, let alone shit like the Kaguya did, work under this system. And also how WP expenditure interacts with this system.
I'm fairly sure that lotuses are explicitly taijutsu only.
 
Consider how the exotic nintaijutsu techniques such as the Lotus and the Jyuken techniques, let alone shit like the Kaguya did, work under this system. And also how WP expenditure interacts with this system.

Because while it would be hilarious to watch Neji pull a Kaiten, or Lee do the Lotus, and then blow WP and an Occult Excellency to replicate it(Martial Arts Favored, so possible)? I'm not sure that's something you're aiming for.
Would make a hilarious omake, though.

~Don't show your jutsu around me, true player for real~:V
Opening the Gates is already in the system as a bunch of Totally-Not-Martial-Charms, and Jyuken requires the Byakugan to actually use effectively (though Tenten could probably fake it with sufficient Awareness Charms). Meanwhile Kaguya was throwing around a ton of S+ Rank Jutsu.

However, you can use WP as normal to get an automatic success. Essentially bumping CS up by one.
 
I feel like signature techniques didn't tend to fail after mastery, regardless of relative skill to difficulty. You could simulate this by allowing additional automatic successes to be permanently bought with xp for a specific jutsu.
 
I feel like signature techniques didn't tend to fail after mastery, regardless of relative skill to difficulty. You could simulate this by allowing additional automatic successes to be permanently bought with xp for a specific jutsu.
One thing I'm looking at is spending additional XP to permanently lower the Difficulty of a specific Jutsu yes. For exactly the reason you mentioned.
 
Opening the Gates is already in the system as a bunch of Totally-Not-Martial-Charms, and Jyuken requires the Byakugan to actually use effectively (though Tenten could probably fake it with sufficient Awareness Charms). Meanwhile Kaguya was throwing around a ton of S+ Rank Jutsu.

However, you can use WP as normal to get an automatic success. Essentially bumping CS up by one.
Yeah, I was going to say they sounded more like MA charms than Spells.

Jyuken in particular seems like it would be better patterned after something more exotic, since I guess mechanically, you could say its almost a Martial Arts style developed to be specifically used by people who bear a specific Wyld Mutation or inherited superhuman trait. Given that the Uchiha and Hyuga are part magical moon person, it wouldn't be too far off to say that they're a race of true-breeding God-Blooded, or something similar to the Lintha, rather than regular mortals.

As such, kekkei genkai like the Byakugan and the Sharingan could be looked at as an abomination mutation/Native Spirit Charms/Heritage Power that Tenten could imitate the basic levels of, but only with serious, serious chops. The evolved forms of the eyes and the powers of the Rinnegan are probably permanently beyond her, as those powers are more like Sorcery or the Panoply charms of high-tier spirits than anything else.

Like a super specializion?
Or sub-purchases, like with Master Horseman's Techniques, or Alchemical Submodules.
 
Opening the Gates is already in the system as a bunch of Totally-Not-Martial-Charms, and Jyuken requires the Byakugan to actually use effectively (though Tenten could probably fake it with sufficient Awareness Charms). Meanwhile Kaguya was throwing around a ton of S+ Rank Jutsu.
However, you can use WP as normal to get an automatic success. Essentially bumping CS up by one.
1)Lotus as MA charms? Cool.

2)I'm honestly tempted to fake the Jyuken just to raise some shit with the Hyuuga.
Pick up a 3 dot MA specialty in Gentle Fist(3XP), add a 1-3 dot Awareness specialty in Chakra(1-3XP), and then show up in the Chuunin Exams, activate Panoptic Fusion and proceed to kick Shikamaru's ass with Gentle Fist. And because it can be non-lethal, it would actually fit Tenten's Compassion 3 personality.
Low-key, subtle prank on an entire clan.

Worse, I suspect Heavenly Guardian Defense probably looks like melee Kaiten without the spinning.
And it makes it look like some of our Solar bullshit comes from modifying other people's stuff, which may or may not be a good thing.
Needs omake XP though.

3)I was referring to the Kaguya clan, of whom the last survivor was Kimimaro.
Mr "I fuck you up with my skeleton".
 
2)I'm honestly tempted to fake the Jyuken just to raise some shit with the Hyuuga.
Pick up a 3 dot MA specialty in Gentle Fist(3XP), add a 1-3 dot Awareness specialty in Chakra(1-3XP), and then show up in the Chuunin Exams, activate Panoptic Fusion and proceed to kick Shikamaru's ass with Gentle Fist. And because it can be non-lethal, it would actually fit Tenten's Compassion 3 personality.
Low-key, subtle prank on an entire clan.
In principle, jyuken doesn't require byakugan. Anyone can push chakra into people if they train enough. It's just usually very ineffective. At least as I understand it.
 
Yes, but from canon Naruto we know Neji talks a lot more when he's punching the shit out of you. Or failing to.
I guess if we use a weapon we should be able to block him.

I am guessing that Neji has 3 or 4 dots in Taijitsu with a specialization for gentle fist.
 
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2)I'm honestly tempted to fake the Jyuken just to raise some shit with the Hyuuga.
Pick up a 3 dot MA specialty in Gentle Fist(3XP), add a 1-3 dot Awareness specialty in Chakra(1-3XP), and then show up in the Chuunin Exams, activate Panoptic Fusion and proceed to kick Shikamaru's ass with Gentle Fist. And because it can be non-lethal, it would actually fit Tenten's Compassion 3 personality.
Low-key, subtle prank on an entire clan.

Worse, I suspect Heavenly Guardian Defense probably looks like melee Kaiten without the spinning.
And it makes it look like some of our Solar bullshit comes from modifying other people's stuff, which may or may not be a good thing.
In principle, jyuken doesn't require byakugan. Anyone can push chakra into people if they train enough. It's just usually very ineffective. At least as I understand it.
Jyuken requires the Byakugan to accurately target the tenketsu and other pressure points, which is how it actually does damage. If you miss it's basically just poking someone with a chakra needle.
Needs omake XP though.
That one's on you guys :V

Yeah, I was going to say they sounded more like MA charms than Spells.

Jyuken in particular seems like it would be better patterned after something more exotic, since I guess mechanically, you could say its almost a Martial Arts style developed to be specifically used by people who bear a specific Wyld Mutation or inherited superhuman trait. Given that the Uchiha and Hyuga are part magical moon person, it wouldn't be too far off to say that they're a race of true-breeding God-Blooded, or something similar to the Lintha, rather than regular mortals.

As such, kekkei genkai like the Byakugan and the Sharingan could be looked at as an abomination mutation/Native Spirit Charms/Heritage Power that Tenten could imitate the basic levels of, but only with serious, serious chops. The evolved forms of the eyes and the powers of the Rinnegan are probably permanently beyond her, as those powers are more like Sorcery or the Panoply charms of high-tier spirits than anything else.
Pretty much, though I wouldn't necessarily saying they're completely beyond her, they're certainly beyond her in the scope of this Quest. In addition, the backstory with Kaguya isn't quite the same as canon. I would have gotten rid of the magical dimensional alien shit regardless, but as for everything else...well that's up to you guys to find out.

I'm sure your past life dreams when they happen will be very trippy is all I'm saying.
Or sub-purchases, like with Master Horseman's Techniques, or Alchemical Submodules.
Right now what I'm consider is there's actually multiple levels of a Jutsu to buy. First one is general, you can use, but it can fail etc. Second level is it won't fail, but you'll still have to pay an extra cost if it's above your current level. Third level is you can do it sealless or something. With each level costing a certain XP to buy.

I'll work on putting together a list of the Jutsu you can try and learn as well. That might take awhile though.
 
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I feel like it's worth pointing out that when Tsunade talks about Lee's injuries in... chapter 173, I think? She's very clear that the real problem was that Lee had bone fragments lodged in his spinal cord.

Gaara didn't do anything to Lee's spine. He crushed Lee's arm and leg pretty horribly, but Tsunade's focus on Lee's central nervous system heavily implies that she was able to fix those without any problems. So how did Lee's spine get all fucked up? Well, it's not stated outright, but...

The third through seventh gates are located along the spinal cord. The strain of the gates was literally shattering Lee's spine.

His worst injuries were actually completely self-inflicted.
 
Jyuken requires the Byakugan to accurately target the tenketsu and other pressure points, which is how it actually does damage. If you miss it's basically just poking someone with a chakra needle.
Actually, tenketsu are an advanced form of Jyuuken. Basic version targets chakra circulatory system (not the points of it, the system itself). The jyuuken causes damage by "flowing their chakra into opponent's inner coil system" (chapter 79, page 8) which destroys inner organs. The needle-like precision is advanced technique.

It's also capable of destroying chakra constructs, like Kidomaru's webbing.
 
Jyuken requires the Byakugan to accurately target the tenketsu and other pressure points, which is how it actually does damage. If you miss it's basically just poking someone with a chakra needle.
Byakugan or an incredibly detailed knowledge of human anatomy. Thinking about it, Tsunade is probably perfectly capable of using it if she ever found a good reason to do so.
 
Byakugan or an incredibly detailed knowledge of human anatomy. Thinking about it, Tsunade is probably perfectly capable of using it if she ever found a good reason to do so.
My headcanon for having it be consistent with the series is that the tenketsu have subtle variation in location between people, and the jyuuken strikes for blocking them have to be dead on to work. So, Tsunade could maybe do it if she had the other person holding still while she ran a diagnostic jutsu over them, but doing it real-time in combat takes magic moon eyes.

(Plus arbitrary levels of precision strikes in combat, but that's a given.)
 
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