windlich said:
exactly. This guy right here was the Only praetor from New Phyrexia who could think for himself to an extent and was at least an anti-villian. Red when you dig down past the mountains, past the explosions and lightning and fire, down at the very core of it is emotion. all emotions. Terror, rage, hate, love, pity, depression, sadness, excitement, its all within red.
Right, it is also art, creativity, passion, loyalty (to ones friends/family not blind patriotism type loyalty)
 
I thought Creativity was more Blue's domain?

But yeah, Red definitely seems to have Loyalty down. Just look at the sheer number of 'You hurt my friends, now you/everyone/everything burns' cards.
 
Oh crap, I just realized that in theory Hiver could cast things like this right now:
 
spidermounky92k said:
as winter not playing a card game what the hell would that card do if he could use it
most likely what would happen is that it would cut him off from his claimed lands that he is using for at least a short period of time.

I think it would not be a permanent cut off purely on the basis of my time with the card game. If I and another person are playing several games. if the opponent uses that card, I dont have to go grab new lands between games. If Winter's reality works like that or not I have no idea
 
Vaermina said:
Oh right collateral damage, I forgot that's a thing.
Also it would depend on how the 'destroyed' part of the spell is interpreted. Does it sever the connection between the walker and the lands or does it blow everything up? In the game are the lands sent to the graveyard/discard pile or simply removed from play? If it is the former then the lands are still there (I think there are cards/spells to retrieve lands from discards) and can be reclaimed/reconnect. If it is the latter, then the spell damages the targeted areas to the point where they can no longer produce mana of any sort.
 
Brellin said:
Sounds to me more like Mary was part of an organization like that one group of Space-Nazi's from Stargate, the ones that wanted to kill all the breeders because they weren't "like them". I imagine Mary saying that her world was overrun by evil actually means that her order of fanatics were finally trounced by people that were willing to stand up and say "no" that also had the power to back the statement.
I doubt it, she spoke of literal demons, hell for all we know she could be a survivor of a 40k world being consumed by Khorne.
 
Brellin said:
Stop talking, seriously. Every time you speak it only proves how ignorant you are. I swear this forum needs a dislike function because you and a hand full of others in this thread fucking deserve getting something like that pressed every time you speak.
"Cry some more!"

Yeah instead I seem to be getting likes because most people seem to be tired of watching his fics crash or die because of an obsession with keeping his characters nerfed. To the point where the character would have to be stupid.

He honestly doesn't have a reason not to be the best planes walker possible. I'm sure just about anyone here could name a setting where he would break even at best.
 
Lancealot said:
"Cry some more!"

Yeah instead I seem to be getting likes because most people seem to be tired of watching his fics crash or die because of an obsession with keeping his characters nerfed. To the point where the character would have to be stupid.

He honestly doesn't have a reason not to be the best planes walker possible. I'm sure just about anyone here could name a setting where he would break even at best.
I don't understand you, your desire would lead to a pointless wank fic. The littarary equivalent of masturbation and it would be incredibly boring and over very quickly what would be the point.

Here I can write it for you so you can leave feeling fulfilled.

Hiver stepped out of the shadows his past actions merely a facade of weakness he had been cultivating over his many jumps. In truth he had tapped literally hundreds of lands. With access to nearly limitless mana winter set his sights on righting every wrong and kicking every ass. With a sweep of his hands thousands were incinerated. with a single gesture mountains moved and oceans boiled. With a flick the other planeswalker was anhillated her spark reduced to nothing and consumed. the end

Oh look that was quick.
 
SuperSonicSound said:
I don't understand you, your desire would lead to a pointless wank fic. The littarary equivalent of masturbation and it would be incredibly boring and over very quickly what would be the point.

Here I can write it for you so you can leave feeling fulfilled.

Hiver stepped out of the shadows his past actions merely a facade of weakness he had been cultivating over his many jumps. In truth he had tapped literally hundreds of lands. With access to nearly limitless mana winter set his sights on righting every wrong and kicking every ass. With a sweep of his hands thousands were incinerated. with a single gesture mountains moved and oceans boiled. With a flick the other planeswalker was anhillated her spark reduced to nothing and consumed. the end

Oh look that was quick.
There is a difference between that, and just being practical when it comes to claiming lands when they are available. Still the business with the lack of blue mana allows me to understand the character choice now.
 
Just realized something. She's someone who can travel to different universes, anyone who disagrees with her is evil, and her name is Mary. Is Mary's last name "Sue," by any chance?
 
SuperSonicSound said:
I don't understand you, your desire would lead to a pointless wank fic. The littarary equivalent of masturbation and it would be incredibly boring and over very quickly what would be the point.

Here I can write it for you so you can leave feeling fulfilled.

Oh look that was quick.
You are so full of crap it isn't even funny, that isn't what I'm saying and I'm sorry if your so limited you can't understand how a powerful character with common sense can still make a good story. The color thing is a excuse because when he only had black and red he sure as hell didn't act like it, much like his previous excuse of the ascended made me do it. Still at least the color thing is more believable.

Who here can't name a universe where if his character acted smart and had a decent amount of land he would still only be breaking even in the power scale at best?

Check out Dimensionist's megacross SI he is a freaking Level 5 and yet the story is still better then this, even if he doesn't update as fast.

Another words you had no idea what I'm taking about and in assuming you made an ass of yourself.
 
Drexal15 said:
There is a difference between that, and just being practical when it comes to claiming lands when they are available. Still the business with the lack of blue mana allows me to understand the character choice now.
I suppose but Hiver has already given IC reasons for why he doesn't just claim every land.

The first two lands he claimed he did entirely by accident and knocked himself out doing basically. every other land he has claimed since has required a long time to form a connection with out brute forcing it.

i've no doubt as he gets acclimatised he will learn to perform that ability with more ease but as it currently stands the character doesn't understand his own abilities that well.

Meteoric power jumps also don't make much sense any way as far as winter is aware just having more mana only increases his endurance it certainly doesn't give him any more skill with magic.
 
Lancealot said:
Who here can't name a universe where if his character acted smart and had a decent amount of land he would still only be breaking even in the power scale at best?
Well, I would say Dragon Ball Z if you get there too late, Also, I'm assuming you meant CAN rather then CAN'T.
 
Malbutorius said:
Well, I would say Dragon Ball Z if you get there too late, Also, I'm assuming you meant CAN rather then CAN'T.
well dragon ball z would be dangerous in that some of the characters could kill you before you even have a chance to perceive them. Outside of that i'm not so sure.
 
Selias said:
Just realized something. She's someone who can travel to different universes, anyone who disagrees with her is evil, and her name is Mary. Is Mary's last name "Sue," by any chance?
Call the Experts!




Zealot said:
So, am I right in assuming that, after a world devastating game of thrones between 2 Planeswalkers the loser will simply Walk away, the winner soon as well, and Westeros will be left totally destroyed?

Also, as far as I understand, in the instant before she would die, Mary will simply Walk away like Hiver? Does that mean, that at their current level of power they literally CANNOT kill each other, due to having no idea how?
It might be that they need to be aware of the danger to Walk away from it. Every one of Hiver's Walks was while he conscious and knew of the danger. Catching her in her sleep or something could work.
 
Zealot said:
Also, as far as I understand, in the instant before she would die, Mary will simply Walk away like Hiver? Does that mean, that at their current level of power they literally CANNOT kill each other, due to having no idea how?
That emergency warp is a defense mechanism, but it is not perfect. You need to know with certainty that you are going to die, you need to have time to realize it.
Also, it will drop you on another plane at random. It don't avoid ones that will kill you instantly.

Winter was insanely lucky he did not die during one of his blind jumps. Only about one in a hundred universes are survivable by human life. There is a reason to why with almost a infinite amount of worlds, we are not drowning in planeswalkers.


Also, he don't know this in story yet, but after you accessed your spark by your own once...the emergency jump thing no longer work.
 
Malbutorius said:
Well, I would say Dragon Ball Z if you get there too late, Also, I'm assuming you meant CAN rather then CAN'T.
No I figured 'can't' would be a smaller list of people, but can works too.

Strikers season of Nanoha, DC and Marvel, SC, a decent amount of mecha anime, ZnT, index and railgun. This is just the stuff off the top of my head.
 
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