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You guys should also remember that it wasn't always since the designers decided to make all colors have their own skeleton closets.
 
Hiver said:
Thank you!

You have no idea how nice it is to have somebody actually see what you are doing instead of complaining the SI are being stupid and not thinking things through when that's the bloody point!
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The bloody point is stupid for a reader perspective, that's the point.

You are making your protagonist act like a retarded pussy, that's fine. But since nobody points out the flaws on his logic or call him out when practicality is required and so far until now his "mistakes" are nothing more than slight annoyances it leaves us with a feel that you as a writer is totally fine with how he act, which is fucking ridiculous.

It's all well and good to say on the forum 'it's not like that' or 'he's being mindfucked' or whatever. Until you show it on the story that it is actually like that we can't help but feel that your protagonist need a few bullets on his chest and some stab wounds on his gut in order to rethink his decisions.
 
ESBA said:
I think that the main character is rather lame(at the moment), feels way too goody-two-shoes for me and i, personaly, would have totaly shot the bitch, but i will still read it because you are rather good writer.
Now that i think about it, i get the same feeling that i have whit your character as i get from Dumbledore (after reading waay too many FF).
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Welp, budding psycho here i guess.

Do you go around murdering conservative politicians as well? Their policies directly cause death and suffering on massive scale when they do things like cutting back welfare. If you are going to kill people for actions they've yet to take or haven't been fully actualized yet then you must have a rather impressive body count.

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This board appears to be rather full of people who don't understand humanity it's kind of shocking are their really so many sociopaths on here? |:
 
SuperSonicSound said:
This board appears to be rather full of people who don't understand humanity it's kind of shocking are their really so many sociopaths on here? |:
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The likely bigger problem is that the majority of the people do not know or are barely familiar with MtG and lore on Planeswalkers. Myself included.
 
JakeCrown said:
Where you go,

"They have free will, nobody can say they do not. Everyone good will choose to follow the light path and everyone evil will follow the dark and horrible path." She said and I sighed.

Well, perfect. I meet another Planeswalker and she turns out to be completely bugfuck insane.

"Mary, This world has evil in it. A lot of it, even. But you can not simply draw a line like that. Not everyone that doesn't agree with you is evil and needs to be killed!" I told her and her eyes widened as she stepped slowly back from me.

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We have completely different morals, You and I, Hiver. I would have done this.

"They have free will, nobody can say they do not. Everyone good will choose to follow the light path and everyone evil will follow the dark and horrible path." She said and I sighed.

Well, perfect. I meet another Planeswalker and she turns out to be completely bugfuck insane.

"Mary, I need to show you a tool of good. It, was created on my world and will help you in your quest to bring good to the world."


"What is it?" she asked, smiling gently.

"This" I said walking close to her to show her the gun pointed at her.

She tilted her head in confusion. "How does it work?" she asked, trusting a fellow mage of white.

"Bang"

"Like that" I said to her corpse.
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Yea... Killing some one for actions they haven't taken yet makes you a psychopath.

Pragmatism at that point makes you just as evil as that which you would destroy in defense against possible future evils.
 
Alasnuyo said:
Next time they meet, Winter should just point out that everytime she summons her knights, she's creating sapient beings only to be murdered when banished. Let her chew on that.
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I'm pretty sure she'll say something about them being martyrs to the cause. And since it's being done for the cause of good it's obviously a good act.
 
JakeCrown said:
You actually think cutting back welfare is the conservative's fault? You must be one of those rabid Obama believing cock-suckers. The senate is under democrat control, Idiot.
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Yeah, get out of my thread. There will be no politics in here.
 
Come to think of it Hiver, your character has been doing various spells powered by the color mana without seeming to crack open a book to do so. Is it because the spells are highly tied to the mana type (red=fire,lightning,energy green=nature,growth etc) or are you pulling on IC knowledge of MtG cards with the idea of 'this type of mana powered these cards in the game so I should be able to do this with it'?
 
jwolfe said:
Come to think of it Hiver, your character has been doing various spells powered by the color mana without seeming to crack open a book to do so. Is it because the spells are highly tied to the mana type (red=fire,lightning,energy green=nature,growth etc) or are you pulling on IC knowledge of MtG cards with the idea of 'this type of mana powered these cards in the game so I should be able to do this with it'?
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Being able to know that something should be possible go a long way to being able to actually doing it.

He is drawing on his knowledge of the game as a guidance in trying to figure out what the hell he can do.
 
ESBA said:
Yes, yes i will go on a politician killing rampage because im obviously a psycophat for (potentialy) killing a crazy bitch.

Would you rather let someone to live so that they could just come back and kill your family, yourself and your friends?
I personaly dont care as long as me, my family, friends and maybe even my countrymen arent in danger.

And finaly? What conservative politicians im not An American! Here in Finland, conservative politicians are pretty much for the welfare as we are a welfare state, and i personaly (ofcourse) dont care about other countries problems, much, unless my friends are in danger.

But enough of this shit, you probaply were just a troll enyways.
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If you kill a person for the suffering and harm they cause at a later date, then you are advocating for killing people before they have done something to deserve it.

Space battles type of pragmatism is psychotic. There is no reason to believe the character winter has stumbled across couldn't be saved or reformed in some way.

especially as get this, shes the only person like himself that Winter has managed to find he would feel a kinship with her no matter how screwed up she is not to mention the feeling of sorrow and empathy he would have for some one whose entire world was swallowed up in evil.

Any one going lawl just blast dat fool, is basically a heartless monster everybit as bad as she is.
 
Hiver said:
Being able to know that something should be possible go a long way to being able to actually doing it.

He is drawing on his knowledge of the game as a guidance in trying to figure out what the hell he can do.
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Ah, makes sense. Though I imagine when he starts testing out the 3+ mana spells he'll try to find an out of the way place to try them as a way to avoid collateral damage. Haven't played MtG in years but I remember that that you are tossing around ant-army, anti-city and anti-region (the destroy land abilities) spells which are not things you test in populated areas.
 
Hiver said:
Thank you!

You have no idea how nice it is to have somebody actually see what you are doing instead of complaining the SI are being stupid and not thinking things through when that's the bloody point!
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Except Red is all about raw power, something your character has been going out of his way NOT to get, so I find it hard to take the color influence idea seriously.
 
SuperSonicSound said:
If you kill a person for the suffering and harm they cause at a later date, then you are advocating for killing people before they have done something to deserve it.

Space battles type of pragmatism is psychotic. There is no reason to believe the character winter has stumbled across couldn't be saved or reformed in some way.

especially as get this, shes the only person like himself that Winter has managed to find he would feel a kinship with her no matter how screwed up she is not to mention the feeling of sorrow and empathy he would have for some one whose entire world was swallowed up in evil.

Any one going lawl just blast dat fool, is basically a heartless monster everybit as bad as she is.
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She just declared holy war on an entire 'plane' then tired to murder the character. Yes lets let her go I'm sure she'll change her mind before she starts to genocide villages and cities, my conscious is more important then hundreds of lives she'll take the moment someone has a differing opinion.

Also for someone that doesn't have 'blue' and therefore can't think things through, he certainly hesitated and thought things through enough not to kill the crazy bitch.
 
Baladar said:
I like where this fic is going Hiver.

So far your SI is acting like a regular person, you haven't been scooping up land left and right because its an exhausting and sometimes painful process. And to be honest, you haven't needed much mana so far.

But now your character needs mana and has to realize that evil is done when good men do nothing.

We get real conflict and character growth now.
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Yes why would he think he would need more land when he was in mass effect, didn't know how to get out, and would be facing a REAPER INVASION in less then a year? By that point he had a red and a red/black, how does that not equal power hungry.

Why does Ascended mind fucking, and now mana mind fucking just sound like an excuse to not make sense?
 
Lancealot said:
Yes why would he think he would need more land when he was in mass effect, didn't know how to get out, and would be facing a REAPER INVASION in less then a year? By that point he had a red and a red/black, how does that not equal power hungry.

Why does Ascended mind fucking, and now mana mind fucking just sound like an excuse to not make sense?
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in the ME verse he wasn't aware he was a walker until way towards the end and for the most port Shepard is known to solve the reaper problem with out side interference, he also experiences pain and exhaustion when claiming lands unless he takes his time to do so.

You are right that he isn't doing things in the most practical and pragmatic manner, but then as an outside observer you are not living his experience and no one is capable of being utterly pragmatic with out being an inhuman monster.

Note the difference between how people play games and how people live. RP games people play as a twisted mockery of reality for the most part being ruthlessly pragmatic.
 
CKirk said:
No, Red is about destruction and being rash.
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It's about raw power not destruction.
SuperSonicSound said:
in the ME verse he wasn't aware he was a walker until way towards the end and for the most port Shepard is known to solve the reaper problem with out side interference, he also experiences pain and exhaustion when claiming lands unless he takes his time to do so.

You are right that he isn't doing things in the most practical and pragmatic manner, but then as an outside observer you are not living his experience and no one is capable of being utterly pragmatic with out being an inhuman monster.
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You seem to be mixing up 'utter pragmatism' and common sense. Yes because Shepard saving the galaxy with the help of the magical star child is something to bet your life on. :rolleyes:
 
Hiver said:
And emotion.
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exactly. This guy right here was the Only praetor from New Phyrexia who could think for himself to an extent and was at least an anti-villian. Red when you dig down past the mountains, past the explosions and lightning and fire, down at the very core of it is emotion. all emotions. Terror, rage, hate, love, pity, depression, sadness, excitement, its all within red.
 
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