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Strength in Fragility.
Strength in Fragility.
(Set after "Risks and Rationals"​

Perturabo's mind turned, even as his brothers Jaghatai and Kesar laughed and told 'embarrassing stories' about each other that Perturabo didn't resist a small smile or two when fitting, because something stood out to the Olympian Primarch...Kesar had told them of the defeat of Aestos and of the Changling, of the second time he had faced their traitor brother Lorgar...but the fate of the Fateweaver, Kairos Kesar had called in, had been mysteriously absent from his telling.

Perturabo had not missed the pain that had been in Kesar's form that day, the losses his sons had taken and something more personal as well...At the time he had not been...He had not pried, but now his intellect and slowly recovering sense of empathy were telling him that now was the time to broach the subject,

"What of Kairos Kesar? We fought he and Lorgar on Cadia but when I sought to chain our...falled brother, you sought after his 'advisor' the two headed one...You forbore explanation at the time but...what happened that day?" Perturabo could see Khan giving him a mild warning glance out of the corner of his eye but the master of the Iron Blood did not care. Khan did not understand Kesar as Perturabo did, he did not share the trait of bottling up one's emotions or loss and letting them fester. True Kesar was not a bitter man...but even one as jaded as Perturabo could see that Kesar took personal blame for what happened that day, for all they had lost and it was long past time he had shared the details that he had not even granted their father. "I will not...I merely wish to...Just talk and feel better like you tell me."

'There, that was better' Perturabo thought to himself, having gotten tired of trying to be careful with his speech. These brothers at least did not dismiss him and would understand what the meant. Which was true...even if he could see Khan hiding a smirk even as Kesar took a deep breath and gave an unsteady chuckle, "Yes, I suppose I did say I would explain later, and it wouldn't be fair that Jaghatai is the only one of us that doesn't have any notion of what happened there."

Perturabo nodded slowly, and when he turned to look he could see their sibling's interests even if he hid it better than most, "I would hardly argue about hearing more of your exploits brother, especially one the Emperor previously declared off-limits for now obvious reasons." Ah yes, Perturabo was glad Kesar had brought him in enough to be told of the...things living in the glaring eye that haunted his every moment instead of being kept ignorant by the Emperor's decree. So much of what he had experienced from it for as long as the Primarch could remember made so much sense now. It was easier to push it from his mind, to ignore its now clearly malignant presence upon his self. A part of him even wondered if it had had a more deeper effect but that part merely told Perturabo to wait until Kesar was able to meet Calliphone, he could...he could trust them both. They would not be as Dammekos's thugs. They would listen...maybe.

"Very well, then I suppose it is best we start at the beginning then, when I joined you in Cadia after you had prepared for Lorgar's invasion..."Perturabo nodded and allowed his younger kin to start the story with Perturabo chiming in as needed, although the Lord of Iron still felt awkward speaking of it, although Jaghatai was a good audience. He asked no questions and merely seemed to take it all in, which Perturabo could see helped Kesar continue, as did the copious sips of coco that Kesar took...Perturabo filed away the idea that maybe his brother had an addiction to the stuff, he would need to have a biologis examine the substance in detail.

It did not long for them to reach the point when they had to part ways, and Perturabo stilled himself...this was his brother's moment. Kesar took another breath, drank his latest cup of coco down and set it to be replaced again, and then shared what had happened after they split up on Cadia. Perturabo could tell this was hard, even harder than the Battle of Three Stars. Scafir had been precious to Kesar, a loss that had scarred him enough that the Vahallan Primarch was subconsciously pushing himself to make up for not being there, for not being faster. Kesar's face grew more haggard as he related how it had felt to see his son's body so defiled, the sheer sense of bereavement that had nearly overtaken him...but then he'd had a chance to say goodbye, to have that last moment with Scafir...Perturabo decided to do what Calliphone had done for him once and reach out to lay a hand on Kesar's arm. It seemed to give Kesar strength and Perturabo felt a bit of pride as Kesar gave him an appreciative smile and detailed how he had ended the Oracle of Chaos.

The Hammer of Olympia was able to give Kesar's recital full attention and have his mind broach a subject to himself that he normally didn't consider: Would anyone feel the way Kesar did about losing Scafir about losing him? Perturabo had never had had reason to think that way before, Calliphone's love and support had been enough, even if they were still strained in their relationship. But would she or any of his sons feel the same sense of aching emptiness if Perturabo was to leave this existence...what was the legacy he had forged in the wake of his pursuit of a Utopian civilization for Mankind? What was the Emperor's legacy at that, he who had the best chance that Perturabo had seen to make those dreams a reality...such thoughts and existential introspection had not been something Perturabo normally thought on...but as Kesar finished his recounting...he resolved to try to at least continue to build his bond with his sons more as Kesar and Calliphone kept suggesting.

He had thought such bonds dross and easily broken...and they were...but for all that inherent fragility the wellspring of might that could be forged from them was greater than any machine he could devise...



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Okay, so origin of this. Mysterio of Rollz suggested writing a Negaverse of Perty's gang reacting to Kesar's side of when they split up, and that reminded me that I had had kesar tell of Aestos and the Changling, and then realized the best way to spin that little oops is that because it was more personal due to Scafir's loss, he would need encouragement to open up about it...and out of anyone, it'd be Perty who'd be able to do it, because he was there.

hope this pleases and enjoy @Daemon Hunter
 
Strength in Fragility.
(Set after "Risks and Rationals"​

Perturabo's mind turned, even as his brothers Jaghatai and Kesar laughed and told 'embarrassing stories' about each other that Perturabo didn't resist a small smile or two when fitting, because something stood out to the Olympian Primarch...Kesar had told them of the defeat of Aestos and of the Changling, of the second time he had faced their traitor brother Lorgar...but the fate of the Fateweaver, Kairos Kesar had called in, had been mysteriously absent from his telling.

Perturabo had not missed the pain that had been in Kesar's form that day, the losses his sons had taken and something more personal as well...At the time he had not been...He had not pried, but now his intellect and slowly recovering sense of empathy were telling him that now was the time to broach the subject,

"What of Kairos Kesar? We fought he and Lorgar on Cadia but when I sought to chain our...falled brother, you sought after his 'advisor' the two headed one...You forbore explanation at the time but...what happened that day?" Perturabo could see Khan giving him a mild warning glance out of the corner of his eye but the master of the Iron Blood did not care. Khan did not understand Kesar as Perturabo did, he did not share the trait of bottling up one's emotions or loss and letting them fester. True Kesar was not a bitter man...but even one as jaded as Perturabo could see that Kesar took personal blame for what happened that day, for all they had lost and it was long past time he had shared the details that he had not even granted their father. "I will not...I merely wish to...Just talk and feel better like you tell me."

'There, that was better' Perturabo thought to himself, having gotten tired of trying to be careful with his speech. These brothers at least did not dismiss him and would understand what the meant. Which was true...even if he could see Khan hiding a smirk even as Kesar took a deep breath and gave an unsteady chuckle, "Yes, I suppose I did say I would explain later, and it wouldn't be fair that Jaghatai is the only one of us that doesn't have any notion of what happened there."

Perturabo nodded slowly, and when he turned to look he could see their sibling's interests even if he hid it better than most, "I would hardly argue about hearing more of your exploits brother, especially one the Emperor previously declared off-limits for now obvious reasons." Ah yes, Perturabo was glad Kesar had brought him in enough to be told of the...things living in the glaring eye that haunted his every moment instead of being kept ignorant by the Emperor's decree. So much of what he had experienced from it for as long as the Primarch could remember made so much sense now. It was easier to push it from his mind, to ignore its now clearly malignant presence upon his self. A part of him even wondered if it had had a more deeper effect but that part merely told Perturabo to wait until Kesar was able to meet Calliphone, he could...he could trust them both. They would not be as Dammekos's thugs. They would listen...maybe.

"Very well, then I suppose it is best we start at the beginning then, when I joined you in Cadia after you had prepared for Lorgar's invasion..."Perturabo nodded and allowed his younger kin to start the story with Perturabo chiming in as needed, although the Lord of Iron still felt awkward speaking of it, although Jaghatai was a good audience. He asked no questions and merely seemed to take it all in, which Perturabo could see helped Kesar continue, as did the copious sips of coco that Kesar took...Perturabo filed away the idea that maybe his brother had an addiction to the stuff, he would need to have a biologis examine the substance in detail.

It did not long for them to reach the point when they had to part ways, and Perturabo stilled himself...this was his brother's moment. Kesar took another breath, drank his latest cup of coco down and set it to be replaced again, and then shared what had happened after they split up on Cadia. Perturabo could tell this was hard, even harder than the Battle of Three Stars. Scafir had been precious to Kesar, a loss that had scarred him enough that the Vahallan Primarch was subconsciously pushing himself to make up for not being there, for not being faster. Kesar's face grew more haggard as he related how it had felt to see his son's body so defiled, the sheer sense of bereavement that had nearly overtaken him...but then he'd had a chance to say goodbye, to have that last moment with Scafir...Perturabo decided to do what Calliphone had done for him once and reach out to lay a hand on Kesar's arm. It seemed to give Kesar strength and Perturabo felt a bit of pride as Kesar gave him an appreciative smile and detailed how he had ended the Oracle of Chaos.

The Hammer of Olympia was able to give Kesar's recital full attention and have his mind broach a subject to himself that he normally didn't consider: Would anyone feel the way Kesar did about losing Scafir about losing him? Perturabo had never had had reason to think that way before, Calliphone's love and support had been enough, even if they were still strained in their relationship. But would she or any of his sons feel the same sense of aching emptiness if Perturabo was to leave this existence...what was the legacy he had forged in the wake of his pursuit of a Utopian civilization for Mankind? What was the Emperor's legacy at that, he who had the best chance that Perturabo had seen to make those dreams a reality...such thoughts and existential introspection had not been something Perturabo normally thought on...but as Kesar finished his recounting...he resolved to try to at least continue to build his bond with his sons more as Kesar and Calliphone kept suggesting.

He had thought such bonds dross and easily broken...and they were...but for all that inherent fragility the wellspring of might that could be forged from them was greater than any machine he could devise...



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Okay, so origin of this. Mysterio of Rollz suggested writing a Negaverse of Perty's gang reacting to Kesar's side of when they split up, and that reminded me that I had had kesar tell of Aestos and the Changling, and then realized the best way to spin that little oops is that because it was more personal due to Scafir's loss, he would need encouragement to open up about it...and out of anyone, it'd be Perty who'd be able to do it, because he was there.

hope this pleases and enjoy @Daemon Hunter
This gave me words to say. I think I also shed a tear. What witchery and devilry do you lace these stories with to make them so emotional?.
 
Ya know. While I get why we need rawbutt girlyman for this whole shabang. I really don't like him, mainly becuase whenever I see a discussion on him politic gets brought into it and I hate that.
 
How so? Like people keep bringing in their personal biases and such?
Not just that. Guilliman is more of a politician than a warrior and because of that whenever he gets brought up if it's not on what people usually talk about(how "over used" he is, the OP'ness of the ultra smurfs etc.) It's "what sort of government would he go for?" "What party would he be in?" Questions like that. Then it goes downhill into something like this: question-debate-argument-insults-violence.
 
I don't know "how" exactly him being a politician goes into things like OP'ness and over use. But that's usually how I see that shit go down.
 
Not just that. Guilliman is more of a politician than a warrior and because of that whenever he gets brought up if it's not on what people usually talk about(how "over used" he is, the OP'ness of the ultra smurfs etc.) It's "what sort of government would he go for?" "What party would he be in?" Questions like that. Then it goes downhill into something like this: question-debate-argument-insults-violence.
Thankfully I don't thin that such a thing will happen. In-game (and in lore I think) he is going for hardcore meritocracy and militarism. And the Ultramarines are mainly just good at logistics and having great numbers in this quest. The side-effects of generalization.
 
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Yeah, the Ultramarines main strength was that their average Space marines were jacks of all trades, thus they could adapt more easily on the fly because they essentially had all the personel they needed for whatever they had to do. They weren't great or super...they were just flexible which is arguably really effective in its own right when not locked in a rigid aherence to a guidline as a holy book
 
Yeah, the Ultramarines main strength was that their average Space marines were jacks of all trades, thus they could adapt more easily on the fly because they essentially had all the personel they needed for whatever they had to do. They weren't great or super...they were just flexible which is arguably really effective in its own right when not locked in a rigid aherence to a guidline as a holy book

Pretty much what I consider them, although they struggle with intrigue related stuff IIRC. Besides that though, I tend to treat them as being pretty flexible and relying on institutions and rather clear supply lines then leveraging those to win out army vs army engagements. The Codex did cause a fair few issues by relying way too much on it, but if it was treated as a guideline (like Guilliman wanted), then they'd have been significantly better.
 
Just so were clear I wasn't dunking on them when I made that first comment. I blame alcahole. But can we all agree to a rule of not dunking on the ultramarines. I hope we can all agree that it's been overdone at this point.
 
Just so were clear I wasn't dunking on them when I made that first comment. I blame alcahole. But can we all agree to a rule of not dunking on the ultramarines. I hope we can all agree that it's been overdone at this point.
No worries, I didn't get that impression and I agree its been overdone, hence why in my Omakes I try to show Bobby G as at least meaning well if being full of himself and sure of his own competence in all he does because, well...he's had it on bloody easy mode this entire quest!!!
 
No worries, I didn't get that impression and I agree its been overdone, hence why in my Omakes I try to show Bobby G as at least meaning well if being full of himself and sure of his own competence in all he does because, well...he's had it on bloody easy mode this entire quest!!!
I agree. Papa smurf does mean well..but again in canon 30k he came of as....I can only think of arrogant and it's good to be proud of yourself don't get me wrong Healthy as well even. but because of ward and a few other ultramarine wankers he just comes of as egotistical to the point I'd rather be a canon 30k iw.
 
I agree. Papa smurf does mean well..but again in canon 30k he came of as....I can only think of arrogant and it's good to be proud of yourself don't get me wrong Healthy as well even. but because of ward and a few other ultramarine wankers he just comes of as egotistical to the point I'd rather be a canon 30k iw.
In TLP Roboute's ego is a bit of a problem, albeit certainly not to an extreme degree. Aside from that, he seems to be one of the more Nobledark characters in this quest, which I like. He's also sheltered by luck to a degree, although sooner or later he'll have to roll up his sleeves and get into the less pleasant stuff. Might even happen in the Ritual depending on what Chaos does.

I personally like him a bit more than his canon 30k version.
 
In TLP Roboute's ego is a bit of a problem, albeit certainly not to an extreme degree. Aside from that, he seems to be one of the more Nobledark characters in this quest, which I like. He's also sheltered by luck to a degree, although sooner or later he'll have to roll up his sleeves and get into the less pleasant stuff. Might even happen in the Ritual depending on what Chaos does.

I personally like him a bit more than his canon 30k version.
Hmm. Can't argue with that and yeah this guilliman is way better than 30k canon papa smurf
 
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Iamdiggy69 said:
*Slams down folder* THERE! I finished that cipher you have us 2 months back, the one you said was pure fluff right off the bat but could change things, I FINALLY DID IT! Now, in the words of Lorne: GIVE ME MY BONUS POINTS!!!!

Soulhunter said:
Awesome, I'll even add a bit of a bonus points in the form of an extra Interlude after this.

tweedletwad said:

holesgoodmovie said:

tweedletwad said:
holesgoodmovie said:
I don't think that fully qualifies here.

1: Hush! 2: WHERE IS THE HUG BUTTON?!

Shovelshieldnite444 said:
That...explains...a lot.

purplePIG# said:
Shovelshieldnite444 said:
That...explains...a lot.

That's putting it mildly, I think this is where a good portion of Kesar's "I MUST KILL ALL the chaos!" comes from. That friggin fried chicken with delusions of grandeur killed one of his best sons and tried to use his body as a shield. I am amazed that Kesar didn't do worse!

kingly1333T said:
True, although him getting gacked permanently is a great way to get payback. Sucks they lost Scafir though, he was their Cyruss right?

Soulhunter said:
He was, although they got a nice +50 to their chaos resistance out of the whole deal.

Reavperor@3 said:
Soulhunter said:
He was, although they got a nice +50 to their chaos resistance out of the whole deal.

Ah! That would explain some of why they are so bullshit when it comes to chaos, I mean, +260 when everything is in one spot? I still crack up at how Malcador basically had to throw his paperwork in the air on the Grey Knights because, why bother at this point?

redbun474 said:
I'm just happy that us flubbing the roll to encourage him to open up was a falling forward roll, cause on the one hand I was legit pissed we failed that...on the other that was honestly pretty funny. "Just...do the thing and feel better!" sounds like Classic Pert trying something he has no clue on and being his usual micromanaging self.

tweedletwad said:
redbun474 said:
I'm just happy that us flubbing the roll to encourage him to open up was a falling forward roll, cause on the one hand I was legit pissed we failed that...on the other that was honestly pretty funny. "Just...do the thing and feel better!" sounds like Classic Pert trying something he has no clue on and being his usual micromanaging self.

Same here, although I think Khan either wanted to Gibbs smack us or facepalm...I'm not sure which.

Soulhunter said:

Shovelshieldnite444 said:
...I can't argue that, but dayum on that kill...I knew we got lucky with that one but just how lucky...hoooo...guess this is why Tzeentch has been consistently on the back foot unless he uses a panic-button.

Reavperor@3 said:
Good point, although there's been some...concerning rolls that he's had on the discord that have me worried about it.

kingly1333T said:
Reavperor@3 said:
Good point, although there's been some...concerning rolls that he's had on the discord that have me worried about it.

Ayup, though we can't do anything bout that so I say we ignore that in favor of...well, I guess doing cyphers and writing Omakes. Speaking of which, gotta get back to mine, hopefully will be done by this week.

Iamdiggy69 said:
Kinda feel like we're missing a big thing here, albeit that interlude was a whole host of mini-big things.'

bumbudol14 said:
Iamdiggy69 said:
Kinda feel like we're missing a big thing here, albeit that interlude was a whole host of mini-big things.'

How so?

Iamdiggy69 said:
Pert had an existential crisis. Especially about the dream the GC was starting to bury, we might actually be able to start moving on that if this results in a removal or lessening of the friggin plethora of malii we got going on.

Shovelshieldnite444 said:
Huh...yeah that completely slipped my mind...We are actually starting to care again thank the gods! We can do more stuff with our bois! Maybe even get closer to Dantioch, he who still tells us when we gaff to our face.

redbun474 said:
Indeed, I really hope we can get rid of the "Personal touch." malus, I really want to use the Trident *well* as opposed to just...micromanaging everything, it's wasting so many actions.

tweedletwad said:
Yeah, that idea for building rec or medical areas for the IA in long sieges was a really good idea. Great for moral and even good for starting new cities when we have to rofflestomp the one we're waiting on to krump.

Soulhunter said:
You are making progress although you shouldn't expect to get rid of them by next turn. This was a very private setting with two brothers you trust enough to let you essentially tread roughly. It's going to be awhile before you can do it in public.

bumbudol14 said:
Soulhunter said:
You are making progress although you shouldn't expect to get rid of them by next turn. This was a very private setting with two brothers you trust enough to let you essentially tread roughly. It's going to be awhile before you can do it in public.

As much as that annoys me...that does make sense. I just wish we could get Magnus to talk to us, sorry about the tangent but what the FUCK is he up to?

holesgoodmovie said:
No its fine, we've been letting that lie for a bit, but I agree. Pert canonically had to drop the mic and destroy a very special project and even that wasn't enough, I can't imagine how much Magnus had to fuck up to get Kesar and Sanguinius pissed off at him...along with Leman.

purplePIG# said:
holesgoodmovie said:
No its fine, we've been letting that lie for a bit, but I agree. Pert canonically had to drop the mic and destroy a very special project and even that wasn't enough, I can't imagine how much Magnus had to fuck up to get Kesar and Sanguinius pissed off at him...along with Leman.

Leman is a given yeah, but considering what Kesar said, Magnus probably shared something pretty bad...honestly, what other than actually summoning daemons and such would it take to get Kesar to just say "No."?

Soulhunter said:
purplePIG# said:
Leman is a given yeah, but considering what Kesar said, Magnus probably shared something pretty bad...honestly, what other than actually summoning daemons and such would it take to get Kesar to just say "No."?

There's a couple things but that's right up there and not far wrong.

kingly1333T said:
*deep sigh* of course it is...welp, he got 'encouraged' to do something else...at least tell me it isn't going to corrupt him more?

Soulhunter said:
kingly1333T said:
*deep sigh* of course it is...welp, he got 'encouraged' to do something else...at least tell me it isn't going to corrupt him more?

It's not chaos corrupting him no...but can't say he isn't being changed.

Shovelshieldnite444 said:
Eh, we'll deal with that later, right now we got a coco addicted trauma victim to look after in the coming war...I wonder if we can get away with making some more clockwork automata to use in the war...

Reavperor@3 said:
Are those even worth it? With how long it takes to make them, we'd only get what...2 or 3 if we got lucky before the war?

Shovelshieldnite444 said:
Reavperor@3 said:
Are those even worth it? With how long it takes to make them, we'd only get what...2 or 3 if we got lucky before the war?

But they could be really useful in a crunch, at the very least as bodyguards for our brothers against the exalted. We could fill them with purity runes and such that they can shutter to essentially radiate daemon death whenever they are directed for example.

Soulhunter said:
You can do that, but I will say custom jobs like that will up the level of difficulty even with cipher work as you'd need to essentially tailor them to each brother AND then add in the extra runework.

Shovelshieldnite444 said:
Soulhunter said:
You can do that, but I will say custom jobs like that will up the level of difficulty even with cipher work as you'd need to essentially tailor them to each brother AND then add in the extra runework.

Faaaak...screw it, still worth it. I'm almost done with a couple of those automata ciphers anyway, how much would that lower the DC by?

Soulhunter said:
By at least 40 I will say, also, I am about to post the reward for @ Iamdiggy69's cipher work, an interlude showing Scafir's fate after he said goodbye to Kesar

Iamdiggy69 said:
Soulhunter said:
By at least 40 I will say, also, I am about to post the reward for @ Iamdiggy69's cipher work, an interlude showing Scafir's fate after he said goodbye to Kesar

Oooooh...much hype!

tweedletwad said:

Soulhunter said:
Alright, here it is, enjoy and brace yourselves...



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And here is the latest in the Ironsalt negaverse, as they react to the latest Omake. It was originally going to be to Scafir's fate as suggested by Mysterio, but as is the case with many omake chains, I realized that to set it right I need to have it react to the Omake set to why they'd know about it first. Hope you all enjoy and the next will be out as soon as I can.

@Daemon Hunter read i say! :p
 
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And here is the latest in the Ironsalt negaverse, as they react to the latest Omake. It was originally going to be to Scafir's fate as suggested by Mysterio, but as is the case with many omake chains, I realized that to set it right I need to have it react to the Omake set to why they'd know about it first. Hope you all enjoy and the next will be out as soon as I can.

@Daemon Hunter read i say! :p
I lol'd at what scafir did. Can't wait to read what their reaction will be. Good job!.
 
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Shovelshieldnite444 said:
Soulhunter said:
Alright, here it is, enjoy and brace yourselves...



I'mma just say that sums me up right now and check out for a bit...


Iamdiggy69 said:
Soooooo...I guess Rylanor can do something else with his life?

redbun474 said:
Iamdiggy69 said:
Soooooo...I guess Rylanor can do something else with his life?

Yeah, like count all the ways things are going to go sideways because SLAANESH ISN'T PERFECT! Like, isn't that one of it's core facets or something? That no matter what form it took or what it did, it represented 'perfection' in blah blah blah?

Reavperor@3 said:
redbun474 said:
Yeah, like count all the ways things are going to go sideways because SLAANESH ISN'T PERFECT! Like, isn't that one of it's core facets or something? That no matter what form it took or what it did, it represented 'perfection' in blah blah blah?

Mhm, and not only did Scafir make that no longer the case, for good...and I am curious about the long term effects this is going to have, I mean...Slaanesh has *changed* and the person that did it to him got away. This has got to rankle something *fierce*.

Soulhunter said:
Just a bit. Slaanesh, between the loss of a KoS awhile back thanks to Kesar as well as this? let's just say that Kesar has at least 2 of the big 4 chomping at the bit if they got the chance.

purplePIG# said:
...ya know...the stuff about Khorne and Slaanesh fighting...this makes a lot of sense. Khorne seems to keep hammering in on whoever Kesar wounds...wait, didn't you say that Khorne likes kesar or something?

Soulhunter said:
purplePIG# said:
...ya know...the stuff about Khorne and Slaanesh fighting...this makes a lot of sense. Khorne seems to keep hammering in on whoever Kesar wounds...wait, didn't you say that Khorne likes kesar or something?

Yup, Kesar has stirred things up and gotten the others fighting more than they did for millennia, so Khorne considers Kesar his favorite Primarch unless Kesar manages to pull what he's done to Tzeentch and Slaanesh on Khorne, but even then it'd be "I HATE YOU!...SO I'LL KILL YOU PERSONALLY, AND NOBODY GETS TO KILL YOU BUT ME!!!". Either way, Khorne is pretty much on a chaos archdaemon metal head headbang high especially with being in the mosh pit with the Ork Gods.

bumbudol14 said:
I can see why...that just...Scafir made it through to the Emperor...do we get to know what effects that had other than the boost to CR for the EW?

Soulhunter said:
Well...there's a chance that people in the Imperium will not get a personally hand-crafted by the Emperor 'Medal of Scafir'...

kingly1333T said:
Soulhunter said:
Well...there's a chance that people in the Imperium will not get a personally hand-crafted by the Emperor 'Medal of Scafir'...

...yeah no, that sounds about right. He did the impossible, dude earned the medal.

Soulhunter said:
There's also the fact that Scafir counts as The Emperor's first panic button, who's effect is being like a nat 100 vs nat 1 narrative effect (plus it's 10% boosted thanks to a Mysterio omake), so that's a thing too

redbun474 said:
...Nice. Veddy nice indeed. Oh, that level of upset reminded me.

Kairos facing Scafir: https://i.gifer.com/VOOq.gif

Kairos facing Kesar: https://media1.tenor.com/images/0ec2064071ad03b7daac9f8d409d89d5/tenor.gif?itemid=13221374

Soulhunter said:
That's a pretty good summation I'll admit.

tweedletwad said:
So that'll definitely help if something hinky goes on in the Maelstrom campaign...but we really aught to prepare so that it isn't needed.

holesgoodmovie said:
Indeed, we're still taking a massive bunch of risks with this although I have to say having this as a backup does mean it's unlikely the ritual is going to massively fail.

kingly1333T said:
holesgoodmovie said:
Indeed, we're still taking a massive bunch of risks with this although I have to say having this as a backup does mean it's unlikely the ritual is going to massively fail.

Yup, although didn't Slaanesh not roll well on something? This week's been pretty hectic.

Soulhunter said:
kingly1333T said:
Yup, although didn't Slaanesh not roll well on something? This week's been pretty hectic.

It did, although it barely avoided using a panic button because the orks were going to take its shiney new Xenos. Doesn't mean it won't be sending Exalts to the Maelstrom, but it won't be completely prepared and aware either.

Shovelshieldnite444 said:
Anything on the Eldar with all this? They have *got* to have some idea if only because Eldrad is a nosy SOB to the nth degree.

Soulhunter said:
Shovelshieldnite444 said:
Anything on the Eldar with all this? They have *got* to have some idea if only because Eldrad is a nosy SOB to the nth degree.

They do, you don't know what unless you solve those ciphers I gave you but rest assured, they are and will be quite busy.

holesgoodmovie said:
I really hope we can make this work. Maybe we can try out some of our prototype flash fortifications? Or do we need to actually set them up to prove concept?

Soulhunter said:
holesgoodmovie said:
I really hope we can make this work. Maybe we can try out some of our prototype flash fortifications? Or do we need to actually set them up to prove concept?

Depends on the planet. The more daemonic and warped, the harder it will be to pull off if it is still in proto-type stage.

bumbudol14 said:
Fair nough, might be worth finishing those if we can manage, being able to set up fortifactions quick will be vital in the warp.

kingly1333T said:
Let's throw that onto the pile, least it won't be lonely.

redbun474 said:
We'll get there, even if we have to melt our brains.

Shovelshieldnite444 said:
I'll handle the Omake front...blargh

Soulhunter said:
Sounds awesome, wish you guys the best. So I'm going to close the vote about what level of training you guys do, such a shock and contested vote...truly. :p


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And there's another Negaverse done. The hits just keep coming for the Iron Salt gang.

@Daemon Hunter i bequeath unto you.
 
Hmmmm.... I suggest we vote to spend some time with our EW boys in the preparation period. Not too much, but as much as possible with one Action Point. With state of Kesar's mind and mental health as it is portraited in the J-P-K Omakes, the loss of sons will hit him very hard, especially when it is guaranteed.

Scafir's last act of goodbye was to hug Kesar. Kesar being a Primarch means he remembers all the interaction with his son vividly and knows he did not hug him ever before his death. That kind of regret pierces deep and clings hard. Kesar will hate himself more after the Ritual without some time with his sons beforehand.

Honestly, we have tended to neglect our Legion. Sure, omakes and its rewards covered some, but as a major action? No, not so much. We focused on other Primarchs, the Emperor and Malcador. The butterfly effects were sweet so far, but we are neglecting our boys just like the Emperor is doing. I don't think Kesar can stand himself for it if it continues.
 
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