The Life of a Half-Saiyan (Thread1) (DBZ)
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Jokes on you, I planned on us vaporizing more than just Freiza. Ideally even his poor little son won't survive our onslaught. When the Supreme Kai of Time is looking for time patrollers she'll be stuck with 4 races, cause we'll kill Freiza so hard his whole race dies from the pain.
lordchaos99
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That was the result of Baby Half-Saiyans being too cute for Lady Luck. Also you confronting him about Yellow
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Damn...I think it was mentioned when Bulma and Goku talked about how Gohan's internals was weird. But that's just me grabbing straws
lordchaos99
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Krillin and no, that was Bulma studying.
Also: you unlock the Ki part of the character sheet when you get 2 Ki techniques. Last year you had Flight and Gohan had Yellowpoke so it wasnt noted on the sheet
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Oh....well I'm really lost then hehe
Hm...next vote I'm likely going to go to try and mess with orange ki, I mean we already made Orangepoke so why not go from there then? We have experience using it and it's less destructive than green and not as hard to control as yellow.
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Hmm. Things Gohan did last turn. Gossard taught him to fly. He did science and he experimented with a Saiyan form. I can't pick up much beyond that?
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...He messed with a saiyan form/transformaiton...that could be it
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That was your action. And Note how his Golden Aura didn't skill-up.
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[X] Dream of conquering
[X] Fly
[X] Fly
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...that is true...
Wait...can forms fail? I vaguely remember you saying that the green hulk form of Broly was a fail LSSJ or am I not remembering right?
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Does it have anything to do with the orange aura question marks?
Because i dont remember seeing them last time i checked. In the character sheet in the first post.
Because i dont remember seeing them last time i checked. In the character sheet in the first post.
lordchaos99
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No it was the black-haired Hulk form that was a fail. Forms can fail though usually by not meeting requirements and forcing the issue anyway. See Gohan for the usual results
That time was, odd in that he kept forcing the issue
Goku in the Lord Slug movie also failed his transformation, but Orange is odd, in that it grabs failed-Yellow and treats it as successful Orange
And it's easier to fail Yellow through not having the Moment than it is to get Orange on its own
False Super Saiyan is Delusion by the way, Denial. Which is why it ties into Yellow Grief
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...Huh....Orange is really really odd
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Denial + Pride sounds like a great way to be absolutely insufferable, but not quite as bad as the yellow form's traits bonding to Pride. Indeed it seems a decent enough method of getting the benefits of Legendary even if we're up against someone that's unambiguously more powerful than us.
Just spitballing though, I still don't want to touch any powers at all for the moment.
Just spitballing though, I still don't want to touch any powers at all for the moment.
lordchaos99
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Yeah.
You missed Brown - Primal Need
Also cold fury sounds better, though that could just be my inner bias and dictionary going FSS
And most Mastery can be considered Acceptance in one form or another
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Dang I did miss brown...kinda forgot because we haven't Ozaru yet.
Also yeah Cold Fury sounds better
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Mostly? Yeah they are combat forms for a combat race.
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Makes you wonder why Orange exists then...maybe partly why it's orange/Delusion is because of the aspiration of SSG? They think they are the hype and strong but they aren't actually, they are just fooling themselves.
Maybe also because it's not a pure color? Green and Orange are oddballs and have unique drawbacks/flaws?
But that doesn't hold true with brown...or maybe it does, we know very little about the brown skill tree
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So was it learning to fly/experimenting with basic Ki that caused his instincts to lower? Coz the first year he watched Gossard and experimented with yellow and I don't think his instincts went down. Gossard did science with him and I'm not sure if his instincts went down?
lordchaos99
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Year one:
Watch Gossard
SCIENCE
Year two:
Fly
SCIENCE
Orange can exist as aspiration yes, but not just for SSG. Spoiler Warning
The Orange tree deals with delusion, even the mild cases we don't usually consider delusion. Predictions of the future are by their nature not Reality and thus fall under Orange
False Super 2 is Hope, for your abilities, for an outcome, for Gohan to be the very best or to win the fight. Aspiration can fall under this. You become rather heedlessly optimistic, basically acting under the assumption you and people you care about Crit every roll. It can be mistaken for arrogance
False Super 3 is Fear, for yourself or things you care about and basically impossible for you as Gossard to achieve unless you fight LEGENDARY Perfect Cell or Broly. As the revelation you aren't the only Green User could force the Fear. Basically if losing it would result in Super Saiyan, odds are enough fear that it'll be lost will result in FS3, You become defeatist and paranoid, it's a rather twitchy form really, prone to "Proactive Self-defense"
Vegeta qualified for FSS3 during the 1st Broly movie btw, only he had the False form...Dammit Goku, not sharing forms.
Oh also, you don't need 2 in order to get 3, this applies to the regular SS forms too, though it DOES make it rather easier.
False Super 2 is Hope, for your abilities, for an outcome, for Gohan to be the very best or to win the fight. Aspiration can fall under this. You become rather heedlessly optimistic, basically acting under the assumption you and people you care about Crit every roll. It can be mistaken for arrogance
False Super 3 is Fear, for yourself or things you care about and basically impossible for you as Gossard to achieve unless you fight LEGENDARY Perfect Cell or Broly. As the revelation you aren't the only Green User could force the Fear. Basically if losing it would result in Super Saiyan, odds are enough fear that it'll be lost will result in FS3, You become defeatist and paranoid, it's a rather twitchy form really, prone to "Proactive Self-defense"
Vegeta qualified for FSS3 during the 1st Broly movie btw, only he had the False form...Dammit Goku, not sharing forms.
Oh also, you don't need 2 in order to get 3, this applies to the regular SS forms too, though it DOES make it rather easier.
Green is a pure colour, Ki has more to do with light than pigment, which makes Red, Green and Blue the pure.
You don't consider needing a stellar alignment to use the form to be a drawback or flaw? Or that it's the only form that can be locked out via physical disability.
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So it seems flying decreases instinct. That's good. Now we just need to find the action that raises willpower and we can combine them eventually for early game maximum benefit. Gotta ask if we get a higher dice to roll coz of our currently ridiculous instinct?
I mean, a d100 decrease doesn't seem too far fetched if your instinct is over a thousand.
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the latter, When I talked about colors I was going to color having maybe something to do with it rather then light.
Also wow that clears some things up.
Hm...maybe because he has a lower instinct that doing non violent actions (such as SCIENCE) would cause his more human side to take dominance as he acts less in a saiyan manner