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So, Balbo's totally going to get them dragged into so many quagmires, isn't he?
 
I think that Pavolini will be an Italian natsoc of sorts, but contrast to Sidos, will be anti-Germany(so like Kaya and Rodzheavsky), while Balbo would be the status quo candidate, Muti would be the natsynd reformist, and Giani would be a crypto-ultranat(he wouldn't assume power as an ultranat, but he will reveal his true colors at the end of TNO1 and be the hidden failstate for TNO2!Fash Italy), and I know that Evola is not showing up in TNO but would be intresting if Giani might be inspired by Evola to an extent and even adapt the idea of "superfascism".

Scorza would be demoted to extra and the McCormack-esque interim leader, and whatever actions he does in his short time as Duce will decide if the reformists, status quo, Italian Natsocs, and superfascist factions get any influence.
 
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As a member of the dev team, let me answer a few questions.

DanielXie said:
I think that Pavolini will be an Italian natsoc of sorts, but contrast to Sidos, will be anti-Germany(so like Kaya and Rodzheavsky), while Balbo would be the status quo candidate, Muti would be the natsynd reformist, and Giani would be a crypto-ultranat(he wouldn't assume power as an ultranat, but he will reveal his true colors at the end of TNO1 and be the hidden failstate for TNO2!Fash Italy), and I know that Evola is not showing up in TNO but would be intresting if Giani might be inspired by Evola to an extent and even adapt the idea of "superfascism".

Scorza would be demoted to extra and the McCormack-esque interim leader, and whatever actions he does in his short time as Duce will decide if the reformists, status quo, Italian Natsocs, and superfascist factions get any influence.
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All of the Duces fall under the fascist ideology in the game, but Pavolini is the most NatSoc-esque. Scorza is indeed the interim leader.

Gladsome said:
Is TNO2 still a thing though?
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Yes, TNO2 refers to the expansions which will add an additional 10 years of content for the mod, which will roll out once TNO1 is considered complete.
 
gutza1 said:
As a member of the dev team, let me answer a few questions.



All of the Duces fall under the fascist ideology in the game, but Pavolini is the most NatSoc-esque. Scorza is indeed the interim leader.



Yes, TNO2 refers to the expansions which will add an additional 10 years of content for the mod, which will roll out once TNO1 is considered complete.
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Are Scorza's current paths being removed?
 
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Twiggierjet said:
Yeah some hoi4 servers can get really bad. Although tbh with the proper mod attention they are hardly

Are Scorza's current paths being removed?
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Yes, he's only the head of state but the real focus tree and content revolves around the fascist contenders. He is just a figurehead that props up the regime while the four battle behind the scenes.
 
I suddenly just realized something. Do all these leaks we've been getting for Europas Narben, Shifting Tides, and Penelope's Web mean that their release dates are closer than we expected?
 
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Starblight said:
I suddenly just realized something. Do all these leaks we've been getting for Europas Narben, Shifting Tides, and Penelope's Web mean that their release dates are closer than we expected?
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Development on them started concurrently in late November. The recent unpleasantness has delayed it by a month, but we are making good progress. Can't say much more than that.

Allstar said:
Will any of the four lead to a "failstate"?
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I'm not at liberty to say.

tankdrop24 said:
Will there still be a later start date for TNO2?
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That is to be decided, though I think yes.
 
SwiftRosenthal said:
Is there any way to generate randomized TNO2 starts without actually playing through the first 12 years of TNO1 content?
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Well, a lot of non-TNO Mods can have you pick winners and losers before the game starts. I could imagine creating, like, a slate of different start combinations basically building out from what you choose? Like, if you have Bukharina unite Russia, then because at least early on things are 'silo'd' that cuts off a lot of different possibilities and lets the other starting positions be randomized, maybe?

Not sure how viable that really is, admittedly. But it seems theoretically possible to do something like that. Picking who you want to start with and that being connected to a randomizer or something?
 
Also everyone keep in mind that while we fully intend to release TNO2 at some point that is also very far away in the future. We can't really give any concrete answers about it or the state it will release in because so much could change in the year+ it will take to make the thing.
 
looks very pog

Anyway, Giani has joined the ranks of Tukhachevsky, Balbo, and Bolotov in "people who died irl before the war or during wwii who survived in tno".
 
Interestingly in the now cancelled TNO2 canon, George McGovern was planned to be the canon 1972 US president and not Robert McNamara as most of the TNO fanbase assumed.
Many were very perplexed by the choice. George McGovern of all the US presidents was going to be the president that would collapse the OFN, start a new cold war with Zhukov's reborn USSR and China, and help make the US a more morally darker and dirty force on the world stage and eventually the villains of TNO3?
 
Jack Jack said:
Why?
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He was the French general in charge of the Ardennes secondary front in 1940, yes the one that the German tanks famously broke through to encircle most of the Franco-British forces and put France to its knees in barely 7 weeks. And he fucked up the management and preparation of this front to nearly epic levels:
  • he refused to have extra anti-tank equipment sent to his front
  • barely reinforced his frontline, going as far a reprimanding the units that tool the initiative to reinforce their defenses
  • dismissed the aerial recon reports warning of panzer division movements in the Ardennes forest
  • dismissed intelligence reports from France and the UK that a Germans' offensive in the region was imminent (because yes, turns out that the Allies detected in advance the German blitzkrieg), to the point that the day of the attack he was at the theater!
  • once he realized that there was an attack, he immediately relocated his HQ farther back instead of trying to organize his line before pulling out, leaving his poor army headless for several days while the Germans were tearing them a new one
  • refused aerial reinforcements because that would make him look bad to need reinforcements
And his exploits don't stop here: he was the one whom Pétain sent to negotiate and sign the Armistice with the Germans, and afterward became the Vichy Regime's No 2. His incompetence is so huge that even today there are theories that he might had deliberately sabotaged his frontline to precipitate a French defeat opening the country to a regime change. (the guy was a suspected fascist sympathizer, that's why he was sent to what the generals thought was a secondary frontline)
OTL he died on a plane crash in 1941 (and no, it wasn't a sabotage from the resistance, it was a banal accident), but it seems that in TNO France can't even have that. :lol:
 
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