and what do you call an alligator in a vest?
An In-vesti-gator

Ok, you know the Super Troopers 'meow' scene?

Picture Lisa doing that to some poor bastard, except as many lizard puns as she can until they clue in.

I"m not sure which would be better, somebody serious, or somebody like Assault who catches on and enjoys it.

Possibly split the difference? Doing it to somebody serious while the realization of the glory he's witnessing slowly passes across Assault's face and then he tries desperately not to collapse laughing.
 
Ok, you know the Super Troopers 'meow' scene?

Picture Lisa doing that to some poor bastard, except as many lizard puns as she can until they clue in.

I"m not sure which would be better, somebody serious, or somebody like Assault who catches on and enjoys it.

Possibly split the difference? Doing it to somebody serious while the realization of the glory he's witnessing slowly passes across Assault's face and then he tries desperately not to collapse laughing.
I've never heard of that. What is it?
 
True but I still want to see some internal schizms between Fallen that are holding the Family responsible for the lack of Endbringers vs the ones who want to worship Kaiju as a new Super Endbringer.
I really want to read their reaction when they meet full size Varga. Speaking of, we've not seen any new Lizard Words in a bit. :wtf: Are the Family on vacation or something?
 
I really want to read their reaction when they meet full size Varga. Speaking of, we've not seen any new Lizard Words in a bit. :wtf: Are the Family on vacation or something?
They've been following Traveling Chris for a fair bit. He has a bit of a habit of turning over others of themselves to halp, but is far too jumpy to be halped himself.
 
Given that they can travel extra-dimensionally, obtaining a full set of DNA from every species that's ever existed would be at worst time-consuming.

Jurassic Park World writ large...
Mars is currently sitting around doing nothing. Strengthen the magnetic field, overhaul the atmosphere, increase or decrease the rotational velocity if needed, and have full size Varga begin permanent summoning oceans. Ianthe could absolutely go nuts recreating plants and animal species to populate the planet.

"It used to be a lovely place, but we had to evacuate in a hurry after Earth was hit and the climate controls weren't set properly before we left. Don't worry, we plan on fixing it soon."

"Ianthe, didn't you keep a bunch of DNA samples from before that asteroid hit?"

"Yes, I've got them safely stored away. What do you think about making Mars a nature reserve?"

"Maybe we should set aside a continent for a farm. Big Brother hasn't been able to have fresh Brontosaur meat in ages, and he's almost out of jerky."
 
Don't doubt it happens, needs must after all, but given a choice for better options? And regarding Taylor, pretty sure that would be a giant Nope!
 
Don't doubt it happens, needs must after all, but given a choice for better options? And regarding Taylor, pretty sure that would be a giant Nope!
Why not? She isn't a dinosaur or a vegetarian that I'm aware of. That aside, being able to turn Mars into a garden world would go a long way toward alleviating world hunger.

Setting up a two way station to Mars using the WHC would mean being able to prevent any garden pests from going through. Dragon could probably automate a lot of drones to help with the crops.
 
Why not? She isn't a dinosaur or a vegetarian that I'm aware of. That aside, being able to turn Mars into a garden world would go a long way toward alleviating world hunger.

Setting up a two way station to Mars using the WHC would mean being able to prevent any garden pests from going through. Dragon could probably automate a lot of drones to help with the crops.

The problem with that is the sheer amount of gamma radiation that the portals generate, necessitating a shielded portal-site on the far side. Granted, if they get a two-way bridge station set up using EDM, it'd be close to impossible to accidentally dose mars with lethal levels of ionizing radiation, and right now, that's probably not the worst problem they'd have to fix.

The worst probably is probably the magnetic field. or more accurately, the lack of one. Without that, any atmosphere they build up is going to get eroded away by the solar wind. But generating a planetary magnetic field takes.... well, not -astronomical-, definitely terrestrial, but TREMENDOUS amounts of power. Though I could see Varga popping in to ask Benny if he wants to be useful for once, in exchange for being left alone down in the heart of Mars. ^.^
 
The problem with that is the sheer amount of gamma radiation that the portals generate, necessitating a shielded portal-site on the far side. Granted, if they get a two-way bridge station set up using EDM, it'd be close to impossible to accidentally dose mars with lethal levels of ionizing radiation, and right now, that's probably not the worst problem they'd have to fix.

The worst probably is probably the magnetic field. or more accurately, the lack of one. Without that, any atmosphere they build up is going to get eroded away by the solar wind. But generating a planetary magnetic field takes.... well, not -astronomical-, definitely terrestrial, but TREMENDOUS amounts of power. Though I could see Varga popping in to ask Benny if he wants to be useful for once, in exchange for being left alone down in the heart of Mars. ^.^
The wormhole facility already has a telescoping EDM tunnel for regular people. A bigger tunnel could be made, or fractal storage crates could be used. Remember, the portal can be made big enough for Kaiju to crawl through. That's more than enough for a tractor-trailer with an expanded interior. It's basically a warehouse on wheels.
 
The wormhole facility already has a telescoping EDM tunnel for regular people. A bigger tunnel could be made, or fractal storage crates could be used. Remember, the portal can be made big enough for Kaiju to crawl through. That's more than enough for a tractor-trailer with an expanded interior. It's basically a warehouse on wheels.

I'm not worried about the gamma radiation on the -inside- of the tunnel, I'm worried about irradiating their landing zone on Mars, because they have to open the portal there first, before the can stick the EDM tunnel through it, and the portal flings gamma rays all over the place until it's encased in EDM.
 
Remember, the portal can be made big enough for Kaiju to crawl through. That's more than enough for a tractor-trailer with an expanded interior. It's basically a warehouse on wheels.

Kaiju didn't exactly pick the name out of a hat, I think a portal big enough for her is big enough for two way traffic, at the least.

I'm not worried about the gamma radiation on the -inside- of the tunnel, I'm worried about irradiating their landing zone on Mars, because they have to open the portal there first, before the can stick the EDM tunnel through it, and the portal flings gamma rays all over the place until it's encased in EDM.

They can, and have done that pretty rapidly already.

The thing is hot enough to not make casual travel a thing, but its not that hot. You seem to be stuck on a hollywood level of 'radioactive' at the moment. It's not like the time it takes to open and extend the shield is going to leave their landing site poisoned for years.

Gamma radiation tends to decay awfully quickly, which makes it very hazardous to a living thing since damage is applied quickly, but not as much of a long term environmental hazard because it doesn't hang around.
 
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It's worth noting that the "poison the land for years" is pretty much exclusively when nuclear power stations suffer meltdowns , and that is mostly because there often is a steam explosion that scatters radioactive material over a large area. That's more the issue in Chernobyl, for example. For instance, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were rebuilt without issue after a few months, as I recall. Nukes do create radioactive fallout, but unless they are salted the fallout is not particularly persistant. It's dangerous, but not for that long compared to a nuclear power station melting down.
 
For instance, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were rebuilt without issue after a few months,

Those were both air bursts, which limits that, since less ground and debris is vaporized to be drawn up into the cloud and latter scattered.

Radiation is sorta weird in that you have to have something to be radioactive, radiation isn't its own thing the way something toxic like an oil slick or heavy metals are. So the bomb going off could give all the people not killed outright by the blast wave radiation poisoning, but after that happened, that was it. Nuclear weapons spend most of their energy being a bomb, not a poison.

So Airburts really limit the amount, and spread, of materials that can become radioactive.

Thanks to Hollywood, radioactivity is one of the more misunderstood subjects around, and the general negativity surrounding nuclear weapons in general only serves to reinforce the worst case outlook on things. Combine that with the oil industry wanting to make sure we don't ditch them for nuclear power, and there's a lot of negative coverage of nuclear anything, and not a lot of positive.

Three Mile Island is treated like a nuclear disaster, and its a boogey man for the entire concept, and was a major factor of the death of nuclear power generation in the USA, and yet, the actual damage caused by it was equivalent to flying from New York to LA, and back again, and under 1000th of the yearly dose allowed to US radiation workers, That's right you could hit a Three Mile Island every day for a year and not go over your safety margin. And that's still half the dose ever linked to increased cancer risk. And emergency services are allowed to absorb 5 times that before getting pulled out. We're very conservative about our radiation safety.

It's something to be treated with respect to be sure, like any other number of potentially dangerous pieces of technology, and safety should be taken seriously, but radiation isn't nearly as dangerous as most people assume, or rather what constitutes a dangerous amount isn't what most people imagine, compounded by the fact that different kinds behave differently and it really gets messy. Alpha radiation for example is potenially quite dangerous, but its ability to penetrate is so feeble you'd have to literally eat it to be at risk. You could use a lump of something that only emitted alpha radiation as a stress ball and it'd be basically harmless.
 
You guys are all talking about Taylor and company going to Mars like they won't get there and only find a note.

"I owe you a Mars.
--Versteckte Klinge"
 
It's worth noting that the "poison the land for years" is pretty much exclusively when nuclear power stations suffer meltdowns , and that is mostly because there often is a steam explosion that scatters radioactive material over a large area. That's more the issue in Chernobyl, for example. For instance, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were rebuilt without issue after a few months, as I recall. Nukes do create radioactive fallout, but unless they are salted the fallout is not particularly persistant. It's dangerous, but not for that long compared to a nuclear power station melting down.

If I remember correctly, the steam cloud, caused from the fuel rods in Chernobyl melting down into the water table, circled the earth three times and they are still having trouble in some places because the reindeer on farms contain too much radiation to eat.
 
If I remember correctly, the steam cloud, caused from the fuel rods in Chernobyl melting down into the water table, circled the earth three times and they are still having trouble in some places because the reindeer on farms contain too much radiation to eat.

Actually the steam cloud was from the coolant boiling.

but yeah, the difference is that nuclear weapons are not usually designed to fling radioactive particles around anymore than they have to. That's what salted weapons do, and something similar was likely why the Crossroads ships largely had to be scuttled, even the ones they planned on decontaminating and scrapping. (Specifically, the underwater explosion caused the ships to be covered in radioactive water IIRC, which made decontamination impossible with the technology of the time, presumably due to the water acting like the materials used to "salt" a nuclear weapon, which makes it designed to fling radioactive particles around.

Ironically, a "fizzle" is actually potentially worse in that regard than it going off properly, as a " fizzle " can potentially spread radioactive material.
 
One thing that people might like to consider is that coal fired power stations put a vast amount of radiation into the atmosphere, and have done for a long, long time. Coal is by far the largest contributor to radioactive contamination in the environment.

Take an average assay of about 1.3 parts per million of uranium in typical coal, and around double that for thorium, then multiply that by how many million tons of the stuff are still burned each year around the world, and it adds up to a horrifying amount. All of which either goes up the stack or ends up in the ash pile, and from there who knows? It dwarfs all the nuclear accidents, and probably all the bomb tests, for how much it's irradiated the planet. And it's still happening...

Just a little thing to give you nightmares :)

As far as the story goes, I've been busy with all manner of pestilent problems recently, but I'm slowly getting back to doing the important things in life :D
 
You guys are all talking about Taylor and company going to Mars like they won't get there and only find a note.

"I owe you a Mars.
--Versteckte Klinge"

That would be hilarious. I've already seen the alternate reality hopping bonus material here. They pop into another one, find out its uninhabited and then go "hang on, where's Mars?" Then spend the next few hours tracking uninhabited but totaled realities that Team Mana had done testing in.


So, its funny you phrase it this way, cause last night I was reading a fic that described Canon Taylor is a literal Biblical Plague. And she sort of is, which made my brain go to The Four Horsemen, and how Taylor would make petty solid Pestilence. That being the case, who would be the other three?
 
One thing that people might like to consider is that coal fired power stations put a vast amount of radiation into the atmosphere, and have done for a long, long time. Coal is by far the largest contributor to radioactive contamination in the environment.

Take an average assay of about 1.3 parts per million of uranium in typical coal, and around double that for thorium, then multiply that by how many million tons of the stuff are still burned each year around the world, and it adds up to a horrifying amount. All of which either goes up the stack or ends up in the ash pile, and from there who knows? It dwarfs all the nuclear accidents, and probably all the bomb tests, for how much it's irradiated the planet. And it's still happening...

Glad you're hanging tough! Also, mind if that simple fact gets flung in a Former Guy's face?
 
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