Either Panacea or Bonesaw for Plague, no clue for War, and for Death the one that comes to mind is Glastig Ulaine.
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SanguisAnima
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One thing that people might like to consider is that coal fired power stations put a vast amount of radiation into the atmosphere, and have done for a long, long time. Coal is by far the largest contributor to radioactive contamination in the environment.
Take an average assay of about 1.3 parts per million of uranium in typical coal, and around double that for thorium, then multiply that by how many million tons of the stuff are still burned each year around the world, and it adds up to a horrifying amount. All of which either goes up the stack or ends up in the ash pile, and from there who knows? It dwarfs all the nuclear accidents, and probably all the bomb tests, for how much it's irradiated the planet. And it's still happening...
Just a little thing to give you nightmares
As far as the story goes, I've been busy with all manner of pestilent problems recently, but I'm slowly getting back to doing the important things in life
At least a lot of the testing was done underground, trapping most of that radiation. People are scared of nuclear reactors because of how badly they can go if run stupidly. It would be easy to say people wouldn't actually be that stupid, if not for Chernobyl, and Three Mile Island. The newest fusion reactors put out more power than they take to run, though, so we're moving towards that becoming viable maybe a decade after we've destroyed all life on the planet, because as a species, we are *unfartingly* stupid.
Honorguard Ra
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Amy/Skitter for Pestilence, Crawler for War (doesn't stop, gets stronger with each fight),Zion/Scion for Death, Chubster for Famine?
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Lung would make a good War in some ways, and a terrible one in others.
Exactly! At least with a fission plant we can bury the nuclear waste it puts out. With a coal plant you not only have more waste*, but it's been sprayed all over the place.
*per mwh.
Edit: And that's not even getting into some of the more efficient nuclear reactor designs we've had for a long time. Fast-neutron reactors burn a much higher percentage of their fuel than the thermal-neutron reactors currently in use. They're just more expensive due to regulatory burdens. Now, I actually agree with those regulations, because the fast reactors are also called breeder reactors. They're the kind you can use to make weapons grade plutonium.
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Imo Skitter could be any of the 4 horsemen. Pestilence cause of ALL the Bugs, War the fight with scion, Death Uhh this is the girl who uses black widows and brown recluses (plus other deadly insects) on a regular bases. plus killing Alexandria , and famine cause do you know how reliant humans are on pollinating insects like bees and others, It's a lot.
Amy/Skitter for Pestilence, Crawler for War (doesn't stop, gets stronger with each fight),Zion/Scion for Death, Chubster for Famine?
Ohh, Crawler for War is a good one!
Famine is pretty hard, is there some kind of energy draining cape mebbe? Making it only about food seems weird to me, especially in context of a high tech society, lack of energy seems appropriate. Hell its even the fate that the Entities are trying to escape.
owlmessenger
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Sere is practically perfect for famine actually, just doesn't have the AoE scale to be a massive danger.
Gamma rays are damaging to be exposed to, but unlike some other forms of radiation generally don't create persistent hazardous products. Anything near an unshielded portal arrival might get fried, but you wouldn't need to worry about it poisoning next year's gardens or whatever.
When that sort of thing happens by irradiation, it's most likely neutrons. More often it's simply a matter of chemical contamination.
I did the math a decade or so back. I forget the details, but it boiled down to if you replaced all coal plants with fission plants you could have a Chernobyl every _three years_ -- and still be putting less radioactive material into the environment. And that's _with_ US regulations.
Well that's a horrifying unit of pollution, "Chernobyls per year".
Itsune
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I was wondering why pre-WW2 metals are so valued for their lack of radionuclear contamination what with the coal issue, so I went looking for the obvious explanation.
That seems to line up, yup.
That seems to line up, yup.
It doesn't really equate.
As a rule a nuclear bomb doesn't make things radioactive. (not 100% true, but for our purposes we can say it doesn't happen).
Compared to Chernobyl which was a disaster because it spread radioactive material over a wide area due to mishandling the emergency. And a little bit of good old fashioned 'bigger is better' Soviet design. That reactor had a ludicrous amount of radioactive fuel, in fact it still does, and is still very hot.
Comparing the two events is like asking how wet you got in a sand storm and how wet you get in a thunder storm. They are dangerous for different reasons.
Both pretty dark units, but not really measuring the same thing.
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so what you're saying is, that I grill my barbeque meats with nuclear fission?Just a little thing to give you nightmares
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So all this nuclear fallout training I got in the ABC Abwehrtrupp was just misinformed?
You probably grill with charcoal, not mineral coal, which is a completely different thing and has a lot less disturbing elemental composition.
Also, remember, a few parts per million of uranium and thorium (and a lot less in fissionable isotopes). It adds up when you're going through billions of tons per year. Which your barbeque probably doesn't.
Ok, if were getting into nitpicking, fine.
Yes, its a nuclear explosion, there is radioactivity involved.
But as I explained in the rest of the post you left out before cherry picking that one line, (and other posts even) its not the same scale event.
A nuclear weapon spends most of its energy being a bomb. Especially when applied carefully to minimize fallout, you can send in clean up crews to deal with things within weeks, compared to the thirty five years its been since Chernobyl, and the reactor there is still hot enough to kill you for looking at it.
Comparing the two does let you basically negate one of them in casual conversation, it being two orders of magnitude off, and counting since there's evidence the fuel there is still reacting.
Virdin
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You also eat and drink Uranium. > 10 mg per year through drinking water alone.
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David DeLaney
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Moord Nag is Death, no question. Ash Beast, or Sere maybe, for Famine. Skitter is Pestilence, with Amy's help where needed, and ... War is unquestionably Eidolon.
Dave, as he's killed more than the other three combined by far
Except War is far less deadly than Plague. The 1918 influenza pandemic killed more than both world wars combined, including civilian casualties from the nuclear bombs and the fire bombing of Dresden. Smallpox was responsible for orders of magnitude more than that.
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They also kept using the three other reactors at Chernobyl for decades, without much in the way of changes to keep a repeat from happening. There were some changes, but not many, as the Soviet government's mindset didn't really care about how many people nearby were getting irradiated if it provided the energy others needed at an acceptable cost.
Rajvik_wolfboy
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folks your getting off on a tangent derail. Might want to dial it back a bit
It took till World War Two before enemy action got more soliders than sickness did. As good as we are at killing each other, even the utter meat grinder that was the trench warfare of the first World War wasn't enough to tip the scales with Influenza leaning on the other end.