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Tangled Fate [Ranma 1/2 / Exalted]

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Let's not forget there's a 2e Hearthstone that can let Ranma switch back and forth at will. It's literally the stone of genderbending. Ranma might be stuck, now, but she'll get an upgrade over the curse.

That said, bringing Akane in asap and not having her get bashed would be nice.
 
Grounders10 said:
Now can I get commentary on something that doesn't involve Ranma's curse? *Hopeful Kitsune*
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We need more awkward Dragonblooded warriors dealing with the 'What's an Anathema?' cast members completely upending what they expect from them, and I'm hoping the whole 'We're not from Creation' reveal comes soon, cause that's where a lot of things will start to click into place.
 
Fellow Sufferer said:
Please tell me that one of the reasons for the lock is not to enable Ranma/Ryouga pairing in some form.
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I suspect that 'pairing' will only ever be played for laughs (probably by the likes of Ryu or involving people from Creation without the full story), and I will say that it's one of a very small number of things that might push me to outright drop the fic.

I've never seen that particular idea play out in any fashion beyond cringeworthy, and don't particularly want to for that matter...
 
Fellow Sufferer said:
Please tell me that one of the reasons for the lock is not to enable Ranma/Ryouga pairing in some form.
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... You are aware Lunars can Genderbend at will, right? If I wanted to do a Ranma/Ryouga pairing I wouldn't have to lock Ranma... (Ryouga being the girl would at least be unique:V)
Pyrotech51 said:
I suspect that 'pairing' will only ever be played for laughs
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They do share a Solar/Lunar bond, but its not going to wind up as a romance. There will be awkward moments however. Many, many awkward moments. Because this is Ranma 1/2 and there must be relationship comedy. :V
 
Grounders10 said:
I'll be honest I was expecting this response, but some of it has taken me a bit off guard. I'm not going to be walking away from this story, so don't worry about that. I wouldn't want to leave yet another project unfinished.

Now can I get commentary on something that doesn't involve Ranma's curse? *Hopeful Kitsune*
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Let's talk about factions in the future meeting.;)

We have Ranma & Ryoga. Kodachi may follow them. They'll want explanations first. They'll be wary of demands and requests and obligations.:rolleyes:

Ryu represent another faction as he is responsible of his men. He wants home and/or security.:)

The goddess of Greyfalls is more an arbiter. She wants a consensus on helping her city.:p

The Magistrates are foreshadowed as moderators, ensuring a smooth meeting (as if) by preventing misunderstanding. They'll side with Setarial.:D

The realm need a representative or they'll be completely bypassed (not even as enemy or future traders).:evil:

The population of Greyfalls is representated by the Lady Bretegani (and perhaps her husband). They'll side with any who can guarantee their protection for the population.:)
 
I suppose you can be happy that people reading were and are invested enough to be upset when the direction of the story goes where they don't want it to...

Anyhow, I liked Kodachi in this chapter, I am quite looking forward to Ranma blowing up/foot in mouthing around her and Ryu.

Also expect Ryouga to come bursting into scene rocking some fancy attire too, not just Ranma... :p
 
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Grounders10 said:
Now can I get commentary on something that doesn't involve Ranma's curse? *Hopeful Kitsune*
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Sure thing, I loved that you are continuing to find things for your heroic mortal to do, letting him stay relevant. It adds an interesting view point, and you've added him into the story seamlessly, so kudos.

Beyond that, all the little touches where right were I'd want them to be for a Ranma fic, everyone is in character, and what deviations are there, are expected complications for the exaltation.

If I was looking for something to nit pick, it would be the casual seeming acceptance too many of the characters in this chapter had to working with the Anthama. Maybe your dragon blooded are worldly enough to handle it, but the whiplash between Kill the Anthama! To, whelp the realms pulling out, maybe these personifications of all that is unholy can do something about the other, worse Anthama is a bit jarring.

The only other thing I'd say, is this chapter seemed a bit slow? Maybe too many view points? You had 15k words, but aside from displaying the lock not much happened, just seemed a bit long for a set up chapter.
 
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eSpyre said:
I suppose you can be happy that people reading were and are invested enough to be upset when the direction of the story goes where they don't want it to...

Anyhow, I liked Kodachi in this chapter, I am quite looking forward to Ranma blowing up/foot in mouthing around her and Ryu.

Also expect Ryouga to come bursting into scene rocking some fancy attire too, not just Ranma... :p
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Oh, You mean Something like that: File:Marek.jpg - Seventh Legion:)

Or perhaps that: [COM B8.02] Ryoga:lol

the DragonBard said:
One thing.
Why didn't Ranma ask for male clothing?

Also, surprised there wasn't a fancy outfit resembling Ranma's silk shirt and pants, even if designed for a woman.
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I think it's his/her Exaltation influence.:)

This is also Something that Ranma has always associated with his curse: the term girly as in girly clothes and appearance.:(

I'm not too sure why he/she didn't require male clothing but it may be either a psychological issue or his tactical sense whispered him/her to play on the people assumptions and expectations.;)
 
To be honest I wouldn't have dropped this if the curse being locked had been brought up in the first chapter; I'm mostly annoyed that it took over 50k words and that the author admitted that they knew the reveal would cause them to lose readers.

I've read quite a few locked/permanent girl fics in the almost 20 years I've been reading Ranma fanfiction, and 9 times out of 10 a locked fic is just an excuse for an author to explore their fetish, much in the way that pretty much every "cured Ranma" fic is just an excuse for yet another male power fantasy. Now, I'm not trying to say that that's the case for this fic, but the fact that the lock was intentionally hidden until 50k words in certainly sets off some alarm bells.

Another issue, imo, is that this is a lock fic set post-canon. By the end of the Ranma manga, Ranma has pretty much come to accept the curse, and has already dealt with being locked in his female form multiple times; any character growth you'd normally try to explore in a lock fic should have already happened by this point. You're just going to end up retreading canon, what's the point?

And yeah, as others have mentioned, the fact that other characters have problems fixed by their Exaltation but Ranma ends up locked is yet another set of warning bells that this is going to devolve into fetish territory. Thanks but no thanks.
 
Well is was fun while it lasted nothing against you I just don't read lock fics as a personal rule might scim through in a couple months to see how it developed.
 
Duquette7 said:
Maybe too many view points?
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The next chapter is going to be cutting down on the perspectives at use a bit. Lockler probably won't be showing up. He has other things that need to be done. We'll probably only see Ranma, Ryouga, Kodachi, and possibly Setarial. I've established the characters that I intend to use for this first arc, but they're not all going to get viewpoints in every chapter.
 
Grounders10 said:
(Ryouga being the girl would at least be unique:V)
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Nope. Has been done. Repeatedly. As you say, Ranma's fandom has tread out a lot of trenches into the wild.

Though really, I'd have been more surprised if this wasn't a lock fic, seeing how you set things up just so Ryouga got out of his cursed form just in time while Ranma just missed it. I'm not too hung up over it. Really, I can enjoy fics with genderbent characters. What I don't enjoy are fics that steer said characters towards accepting their change utterly and become (let's face it, this is a boy to girl trope 99% percent of the time) the most girly girl they can be. That's fine if the character wanted to be a girl in the first place, but forcing someone with a magically induced dysphoria to just settle and "accept" never sat right with me. I don't get that vibe here. My impression of this Ranma is that he is just so done with all this nonsense he can't even be bothered to throw a fit. That has the potential to go places. Looking forward to where you take it.
 
I know it's off putting to some but as someone who has, at times, struggled with feeling at home in one's body, I appreciate that Ranma fics occasionally explore themes that I can relate to. Doesn't matter which gender the protag is, that quiet feeling of frustration comes through marvelously in your writing.

Just... Putting that out there. I'm probably not the only one who felt that way but I didn't see the sentiment while trawling through the passive aggressive shit-posts.

On a more positive note, Kodachi redemption is always a fun time and Ryu doesn't get used nearly enough in the fandom. Usually cause fics die or go off course well before he would show up but still, Kudos.
 
the point that I don't understand is that removing the curse, in any way, diminishes Ranma, hell it kills the comedy and the power of the curse and its preternatural ability to crop up in the most inopportune of places.

a lock fic is basically Ranma in name only, and banking either on angst or what not. a shame because it read like *fun*

Good luck with the fic, I get off here.
 
Grounders10 said:
Now can I get commentary on something that doesn't involve Ranma's curse? *Hopeful Kitsune*
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Well, having just read the story this afternoon, I'll try what I can...

*Scratches head, thinking*
Oh, I got one!
Will any of the Ranma characters become Sidereals, or any of the stranger Exalt types? It'd be interesting to have an Infernal on their side or heck, an Alchemical, even if this is 3e (And even then, there are a few decent 3e Fan conversions online.)
Also, sad that Ranma isn't a Sidereal, because now it's going to take just a bit more time until the Duck Punching begins (Ranma Saotome: Master of the Mallard Arts!:D)
 
Christ, everyone complaining about the lock just seems so incredibly, incredibly sad. To the degree of publicly saying they're not reading it any more? Pretty sure that must break rules somewhere. Just like putting someone on ignore, and then saying you've done it.

If you don't like something, don't read it. Don't whine about it like a child.
 
Candesce said:
The Ranma fandom has been around for a long time, and a lot of people's tastes have hardened. They know exactly what they want from a fic going in.

I think I'd agree that that's sad, honestly.
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I think it's a case of so many potential plots being badly dealt with, and the fact that lots of people can't help but see parallels in later pieces of work, even if they deal with them much better.

It's honestly quite sad that fics aren't judged entirely on their own merits, but it is also unfortunately understandable as well...
 
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