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Tales of History - A Civ-Builder Quest

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SpeckofStardust said:
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People why are you deciding to literally do the effective same thing of a SINGLE PERSON telling us "things will go wrong if you don't effectively spare us".
This is the exact same thing that happened literally 4 updates ago again.
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The problem is that we don't have perfect knowledge, I lean towards bluff on the Makar part, but it would be dumb of us to continue on, We wiped one of their 3 major villages, and we can't trust Brushcrest, so returning is the smart choice.
 
We would be retreating with almost nothing won one the say-so of one asshole who claims to command and army that can totally defeat us.

Next thing he's gonna say his big brother is just around the corner and will beat us up if we don't leave him alone right now.
 
Ghostdevil said:
The problem is that we don't have perfect knowledge, I lean towards bluff on the Makar part, but it would be dumb of us to continue on, We wiped one of their 3 major villages, and we can't trust Brushcrest, so returning is the smart choice.
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No it is the :turian:Safe:turian: choice. It is the choice that cant possible go wrong. As such it is the trap that will lead to us going nowhere in quest.
 
SpeckofStardust said:
No it is the :turian:Safe:turian: choice. It is the choice that cant possible go wrong. As such it is the trap that will lead to us going nowhere in quest.
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Look, bottom line is that we can't trust Brushcrest, and that if we lose this army, all hell breaks loose. Worst case scenario, we retreat and find out that it was a bluff. No problem, we can send our forces down the river to eventually link-up with the main Alliance force. Or we can sack Brushcrest while their forces are away. No biggie.

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And you want to make an enemy of a large policy and proceed to turn out back them, and pretend they don't exist.
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It doesn't sound like it takes too much to make an enemy of the Makarites, to be honest.
 
Ghostdevil said:
That is still not a reason for risking our troops for a small chance, even assuming this dude has Zero army behind him, their Capital will. And we BARELY won this fight by SHEER luck.
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Their capital is not a city, it's a temple where there seems too be mostly slaves and what they have in nobility.
We won't have to fight the fanatics we handily beat here, just the kind of hunters that fled long before those.
 
Artemis1992 said:
Their capital is not a city, it's a temple where there seems too be mostly slaves and what they have in nobility.
We won't have to fight the fanatics we handily beat here, just the kind of hunters that fled long before those.
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Your literally assuming that, we know that we didn't fight their Elite Units. And even if their not standing around at their Very important Temple to their literal God, They would have fanatics there, and they will likely brutalize us as Azel expected, in least we pull god dice out our ass again and that is statistically unlikely.
 
[X] Do something else.
-[X] First of all, fucking merk that chosen.
-[X] As in the previous plan, juke east towards the river. Do not cross the river, though. Head immediately south and then west, towards Makar. Their host shouldn't be too far behind their scouts; by the time they see the feint, they should be north-east of our force. Don't try to conceal our tracks heading south though; if they don't realize we're going for the god-king, they might head for Greenvalley.
-[X] Head straight for Makar, cross the river and attack the site to incite a slave rebellion. Once we've taken it, all we need to do is defeat the force pursuing and run like hell for Greenvalley.
 
Azel said:
AN: Well, you've been played quiet thoroughly by Broken Shell and Brushcrest.
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The GM quite literally said that we've been played for fools and you guys think that the Makarites are just bluffing.

A vote for attacking the Makar temple is a vote for literal suicide.

[] Try to flee. You still have a day before his warriors are in Riverbend.
-[] Flee immediately to keep as large a distance to the pursuers as you can.
 
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Question. Did anyone ever think that maybe, maybe we shouldn't believe this guy's words and that maybe, maybe he is lying and is trying to get us out of the war?

Remember option to march our army together with Brushcrest and allies so that pretty much means that if they planed this they would had to go and fight Makarites with us.
 
[X] Do something else.
-[X] First of all, fucking merk that chosen.
-[X] As in the previous plan, juke east towards the river. Do not cross the river, though. Head immediately south and then west, towards Makar. Their host shouldn't be too far behind their scouts; by the time they see the feint, they should be north-east of our force. Don't try to conceal our tracks heading south though; if they don't realize we're going for the god-king, they might head for Greenvalley.
-[X] Head straight for Makar, cross the river and attack the site to incite a slave rebellion. Once we've taken it, all we need to do is defeat the force pursuing and run like hell for Greenvalley.

My bet is the emissary is bluffing and we are in a bad enough situation that it might be worth gambling even if he is not.
 
Star said:
Question. Did anyone ever think that maybe, maybe we shouldn't believe this guy's words and that maybe, maybe he is lying and is trying to get us out of the war?

Remember option to march our army together with Brushcrest and allies so that pretty much means that if they planed this they would had to go and fight with us.
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Marching with them means they can kill us more easily, betrayal is easier when their right next to you.
 
Satar said:
The GM quite literally said that we've been played for fools and you guys think that the Makarites are just bluffing.
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I think Azel is bluffing.

Exactly that note is what leads me to believe that the Chosen here is playing us.
This is exactly the style.

@Duesal
You know him just as long over ASWAH, don't tell me you can't see him do exactly that, playing on our paranoia against Bushcrest to get us to act overcautious here.
 
Ghostdevil said:
Marching with them means they can kill us more easily, betrayal is easier when their right next to you.
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It also means that they would first need to fight Makar , then fight us and then hope that Makar won't invade them in time of weakness and that we won't take vengeance on them.

And they hate Makar .


Edit : What i believe is that alliance managed to score a victory or battle was such that both sides are left weakened so he is trying to get us to back of and take a part of our army to finish Brushcrest of.
 
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Artemis1992 said:
You know him just as long over ASWAH, don't tell me you can't see him do exactly that, playing on our paranoia against Bushcrest for to get us to act overcautious here.
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SV will never go for the throat in a regular civ quest, this is that chance (again) and where not going to go though with it (again), every single time the GM will throw a shiny and fear at us, last time it was diplo (shiny) and the civ with 30 military units (fear), this time the fear is (betrayal) and the shiny is again diplo (which thankfully everyone is ignoring). Despite the last time we fell for this (supposedly) they all want to fall for it again.
 
Artemis1992 said:
I think Azel is bluffing.

Exactly that note is what leads me to believe that the Chosen here is playing us.
This is exactly the style.

@Duesal
You know him just as long over ASWAH, don't tell me you can't see him do exactly that, playing on our paranoia against Bushcrest to get us to act overcautious here.
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This is both deeply hilarious and pleasing to my wretched heart. Proceed. :D
 
Just add that if he was so powerful as he speaks what was stooping him from bringing army to us and backing his demand?
Add to it that he quickly changedhis demand from half of the Soldiers to 1 in 5. He is desperate i say.

His army is gone people!
 
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Star said:
Just add that if he was so powerful as he speaks what was stooping him from bringing army to us and backing his demand ?

His army is gone people!
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It doesn't matter, were going to their Temple, their Holy Site, to assume its completely undefended or only houses a few hunters is complete folly, Azel has already told us we have not faced their elites yet, so they have to be SOMEWHERE, Worse case their at the temple with Fanatics, best case their fighting Brushcrest and co.
But its likely that the Temple is home to more than a few Fanatics, because as the Name implies their likely to be near their holy site.
 
Ghostdevil said:
It doesn't matter, were going to their Temple, their Holy Site, to assume its completely undefended or only houses a few hunters is complete folly, Azel has already told us we have not faced their elites yet, so they have to be SOMEWHERE, Worse case their at the temple with Fanatics, best case their fighting Brushcrest and co.
But its likely that the Temple is home to more than a few Fanatics, because as the Name implies their likely to be near their holy site.
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We just heard that they don't have the regular fanatics there.
Azel said:
Oddly enough though, this village was by far the smallest of them all. There were many hunters there and captured people to build the temple, but the chosen ruling over it had little use for people sitting around when they could plunder far away lands.
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Hunters and slaves.
 
Star said:
It also means that they would first need to fight Makar , then fight us and then hope that Makar won't invade them in time of weakness and that we won't take vengeance on them.
And they hate Makar .
Edit : What i believe is that alliance managed to score a victory or battle was such that both sides are left weakened so he is trying to get us to back of and take a part of our army to finish Brushcrest of.
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I still think that advancing deeper into Makarite territory is suicide, but that does explain something that puzzled me. Why did the Chosen drop his demand for half of our force as tribute to one-fifth so quickly? It doesn't make sense. Then again, if we wait a day and no Makarite army arrives, the jig is up. So he's at least not lying about the army being dispatched after us, I don't think.

But Azel hasn't ever mislead us with his Author Notes before. I can't remember him omitting or playing with the truth in them-- ever.
 
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