Sudden Active Development... I certainly feel SAD at the moment (Transformers Prime SI)

Great chapter. I enjoyed it throughly. Also, hurray for motherhood(?) If I couldn't tell how badly canon was derailed already this absolutely does it, our girl made Shockwave proud today, for SCIENCE! As much as I'd love to see Momisis interact with other characters more I completely understand her need to play things with caution given how she's (formerly) alone, and lacking allies to back her up. It doesn't help that she's literally the cybertronian version of Frankenstein's Monster (the book-accurate one).
Hurray for mommahood indeed.
Canon was taken out back to be put down like old yeller the moment I brought NemeSIs into existence and decided to also shove Warhound, more bots and cons, custom relics, and more OCs into the story.
Indeed. Now NemeSIs Prime has kids and she no longer alone and so horribly outnumbered.

I mean, NemeSIs did do it like shockwave. It's just that in canon Aligned Cybertronians don't have a concept of parents.
Shockwave: "Hmm... Interesting. Recording for future experiments. It would perhaps be logical to establish a rapport with my creations. Camaraderie and all that to prevent betrayal of any kind."

First of all, the pics don't necessarily already give them all their weapons. Those are just references for their appearance and any possible weapon in the future. But I will answer as much as I can without giving much away right now.

All of them are capable of mechashifting their arms, I intend to at least have all of them carry a ranged weapon in said arms.
1st Scout
Indeed a modern car, still thinking of which one.
She'll have ranged options in her arm, the Harbinger's still not yet fully explored by NemeSIs due to sheer size and being so busy with the Relic Blitz and making sure Starscream stays asleep. Also both her and Support have actual faces, those are just visor masks that came with their cold forging.

Support
Chosen intentionally for appearance, he'll be acting on a similar role to Soundwave in terms of being reconnaissance, espionage, communications, and groundbridging. Here's a hint. (He will be the more problematic of NemeSIs kids but not in the way one expects)
His pic just doesn't have any items. <:3
I will say, Support and Bigger Boy will be flyers. Got something in mind for Support's alt mode.

Big Boy
His pic just doesn't make him look large due to the size of the items he is holding. He's going to be the same size as NemeSIs, only chunkier, like the Ironhide pic I showed a while back.
He is indeed a military transport. Only with better protection per being a cybertronian so he fast and durable. I'm having him keep the shield and lance with some modifications only because I'm a sucker for that kind of equipment.

Bigger Boy
Is indeed an Osprey, he is the biggest and definitely hits the hardest aside from NemeSIs.
In future alt-mode he is large enough his smaller siblings. 3 Scouts can fit inside while transformed with a slight modification to alt-mode width.
I find the arm engines/rotors a nice touch actually.
The rotors can fold up and collapse into the hull.

Split-Spark Twins
They are actually a Mazda, looking into the 2nd pic a little bit closer.

Hope that clears some stuff up <:3

That is creepy AF, and also a generally bad idea.

First, there is how you make them loyal to 'you and you alone'. Whether you're making some sort of hard-wired IFF, or setting your voice/appearance as 'master' then you're asking for trouble if anyone works out exactly what you did and spoofs it. If someone is following you because they want to then they'll be quick to pick up on doppleganger/spoofing situations, but if it's hard-wired they may be unable to tell something is wrong or unable to disobey fake-you even if they can tell.

The best you can do is to aim for personalities that have a general pack-tendency and desire to seek direction and build up loyalty the old-fashioned way.
Apologies on that front, I didn't mean to make it come out as something so sinister. I meant to make it sound as if they would have an easier time recognizing her as a trusted individual but still keep their personalities intact without any sort of blind loyalty. But with NemeSIs' last thoughts before the procedure went underway, they have a more friendly disposition towards NemeSIs straight off.

Don't worry, they aren't like mindless controlled drones with fake personalities. (Though that could be argued considering they were Cold Forged) They all have their own personalities, likes, dislikes, and maybe will get their own dreams. They just now have a more friendly start off with NemeSIs as her last thoughts carried over to them and kinda made them imprint on her as their 'Mother' on accident.

Hope it clears up and doesn't sound so sinister. <:3
 
Neat, now I see why Optimus's sister Nemmy (our little Nemmy-Sis) didn't have the Osprey alt form, because Seahawk over there has it.
 
Would this be the future difference between Optimus & Nemesis Prime?



I actually hope Nemesis manages to get this alt-mode scanned in, to be honest.
If only for the reaction of everybody else.
Nemesis being more Optimus the Optimus.

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I do hope she makes one like this one, though.
Should cause some confusion, at the very least.
 
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Even if Shockwave or anyone else tried to do the same, they won't get similar results for loyalty, imo.

I mean, they used the SI as a template. A template with human memories and concepts, many of which are absent or nonexistent among cybertronians.

The very line of mother being mentioned is proof of this to me.
 
Big Boy
His pic just doesn't make him look large due to the size of the items he is holding. He's going to be the same size as NemeSIs, only chunkier, like the Ironhide pic I showed a while back.
He is indeed a military transport. Only with better protection per being a cybertronian so he fast and durable. I'm having him keep the shield and lance with some modifications only because I'm a sucker for that kind of equipment.

For Big Boy's weapon, may I suggest the Guardian Spear for the Warhammer 40k Custodies?


It comes with a very powerful gun as well and can be used with a shield.
 
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Starscream: ugh, what the heck

"Shuddup, mom's sleeping"

Starscream: LET ME GO

"No! You're not my real dad!"

Starscream: confused screaming
 
@TheLunchKing might I suggest you take a look at the other Transformer Universes, for a bit, in terms of plot points?
Because if you get rid of that hammer being in Megatron his hands...
Well, it lets you bypass a lot of trouble, several episode's worth, in fact.
And I think for you being able to break away from Canon Prime Events, might actually be good for your muse.


I also think Nemesis was a idiot, simply by trying to create all five, at ones.
But since he was for a moment, thinking Stunticons/Constructicons, I think there might be a change the five might actually be combiners.
Check the Protoform Cold Forging tests, see if he needs to actually provide a spark, if all he wants, is a trailer that can become his lower body.
Like Armada Prime.
Also check if this process can be adapted to revive transformers, as well.
He needs to steal Shockwave* cloning research, if nothing else, might let him to fully unlock his Cold Forging ability and perhaps even remove the need for death bodies, as well.

One thing is sure, he needs more crew, if only to run his base and fix it up.
Not even talking about things like mining and so on.
Don't really care if most of them are just drones, under the control of one or more bots.
Mmm, coild he make something like a Hivequeen bot, capable of constructing new drone bodies, if given the raw resources?
That way, Nemesis can have a Queen Bee to act as her ship's captain, turning the (secondary) bridge into her command-nest.


So think things over.
If for one, that forcefield generator survived, then it could have been added to the Autobot base defence systems, preventing it's lose.
A hidden lower base would have added to their options, as well.
Especially if it housed the longer ranged stuff, for long duration periods, besides acting as a store house & factory complex.

Mmm, would be fun if one if the bigger bots, was a tripple changer and is willing to select a military air defence trailer as a alt-mode, so Nemesis can be pulling allong a big surprise.
Mmm, could Nemesis intergrate that vizor, into her ship it's sensor system?
Because if so...
You really edited another hooge thing.

Ok so first part, I will take into advisement, as I and my Muse are still thinking on that front so nothing much to do there. I go where my muse throws the dart of destiny.

As for NemeSIs creating five at once? That is merely so that she can fill all those slots and see if she can get more numbers on her side. She didn't make them with constructicons or combaticons in mind, so sorry. But the Six are not combiner friendly. Thank you for giving my Muse the idea of creating her own combiner team, it is starting to give me weirder ideas that should not be a thing.

Take note that Cold Forging is relatively 'new', as in compared to Forging/Protoforging, Cold Construction, and Spark Forming/Birth, it is still a relatively untested field. The Decepticons were somewhat leading in the knowledge department on this, as is seen with Shockwave and his Predaclones. However that is one path of Cold Forging, mostly for Clones. NemeSIs is primarily on untested grounds here especially she doesn't really know what she is doing.

That is the end goal. NemeSIs plans on at least repairing the Harbinger enough to be space worthy and use it as a mobile base of operations like Megatron does with the Trypti-Nemesis Warship.

Hivequeen Bot is an interesting idea. Muse just nabbed that, thank you.

The last few things you said on the other hand. I'm impressed you got that idea for the Oracle's Visor. I did NOT think about that kind of line of thought. Thank you for that, you just gave my muse more ideas. (No offense but I'm trying to update my other fics but the ideas coming from ya'll are making my Muse want to do a 180 and go back here. XD )

Neat, now I see why Optimus's sister Nemmy (our little Nemmy-Sis) didn't have the Osprey alt form, because Seahawk over there has it.
Yep, I was planning for that in the beginning ever since I mentioned NemeSIs arrived to the Harbinger at the beginning of the Armada Episode.

Plus if I'm planning on giving NemeSIs any kind of jet mode, I'm planning on giving her one that could use some cybertronian upgrades to be a right terror. (It's up to you

What would've happened if NemeFemme shoved a relic or two in with the corp-cough- bio-mech-mass
Elaborate on this please.

Would this be the future difference between Optimus & Nemesis Prime?
If you looked at my media tab, you'd see reference pics of NemeSIs Prime's and add-ons along with descriptions of their appearance.

In the future, Optimus Prime would be Upgraded Forged like in Season 3.
NemeSIs Prime will resemble the old body more except a lot more Femme-like but still has resemblance to Optimus.

Why didn't she make a medic and/or a scientist?
Big Boy is the medic, though no scientist just yet.

If you're taking names for the newborns. I recommend for the split sparklings, you should name them "Split Screen NemeSis". One named "Split NemeSis" and the other "Screen NemeSis".
Good idea for names, but still thinking on that front. They won't get NemeSIs as last names tho.

Even if Shockwave or anyone else tried to do the same, they won't get similar results for loyalty, imo.

I mean, they used the SI as a template. A template with human memories and concepts, many of which are absent or nonexistent among cybertronians.

The very line of mother being mentioned is proof of this to me.
Exactly, NemeSIs whole. 'Wait, doesn't this kind of make me their parent?' With the connection to the base of her neck strut grabbing some basic knowledge from her drives kind of accidentally gave her kids more familial concepts considering that was the last thing she was thinking before Max Payne hit her like Optimus' truck form.

For Big Boy's weapon, may I suggest the Guardian Spear for the Warhammer 40k Custodies?


It comes with a very powerful gun as well and can be used with a shield.
I know what this is, and frankly I don't know why I didn't think of it before. Thank you. Also if you got it from a Fandom page, the images don't translate well if you grab those URLs for some reason.

Starscream: ugh, what the heck

"Shuddup, mom's sleeping"

Starscream: LET ME GO

"No! You're not my real dad!"

Starscream: confused screaming
Pretty much yeah.
 
I know what this is, and frankly I don't know why I didn't think of it before. Thank you. Also if you got it from a Fandom page, the images don't translate well if you grab those URLs for some reason.

You are welcome, and I changed the pic so it would show up.

Edit: This new one even has a Custoden in it as well.
 
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As for NemeSIs creating five at once? That is merely so that she can fill all those slots and see if she can get more numbers on her side. She didn't make them with constructicons or combaticons in mind, so sorry. But the Six are not combiner friendly. Thank you for giving my Muse the idea of creating her own combiner team, it is starting to give me weirder ideas that should not be a thing.
You need a 5 piece combiner. A mastodon, pterodactyl, triceratops, saber-tooth tiger, and a tyrannosaurus......for reasons. *shifty eye*
 
I'm just waiting for NemeSIs to nab Shockwave and weaponize his SCIENCE!. True, he is an amoral ass but not an unreasonable one. Getting him out of Megatron's hands before he even has a chance to meet him and establishing at the very least a neutral rapport will go a long way in keeping everyone relatively safer from his mad science. Then again, he is absolutely going to want to study NemeSIs in very close detail, probably open her up to see what makes her tick, but then again as previously stated, he's reasonable, NemeSIs could compromise in allowing non-lethal research on herself in exchange for Shockwave as an ally. Hmmm, too many "ifs" as of now plus it's still pretty far off, what will really help is getting her new "faction" better established.
 
Kind of sad that you did not go for any Maximals....

If the Twin Sparks had been Beastformers, then they could have even had a Combiner Mythological Form!

Like a Bat for one Twin and an Octopus for the other Twin, then when they combine you get a Cthulhu like Mythical Beastform!

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For maximum Fun, should have got a Kidformer from the Starscream Clone!


In fact.... Why not a Beastform name that is not Maximal or Predacon?

Beastformers should have a Neutral Faction with a Name too!
 
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I have a question; does Cold-Forging assimilate hardware traits from the... materials used to construct the frames?

A lot of interesting ideas spring to mind if it is true. Immoral ideas in most cases, but I always loved monster-making.
 
speaking of materials, i wonder how difficult growing or creating a disposable armor section would be?

Imagine, someone stabs NemeSIs, attempting to pin her in place, only for the bit they are pinning to detach, with her using the distraction to either escape or counterattack...
sure, she has the Apex Armor...
But its always good to have a backup.
 
@TheOmnimercurial
They do: Maximal, Eukarian, beastformer, quintspawn, Beast Era Cybertronian, or luckless sod depending on timeline and era.

Yes maximal is the 'good' faction name from the beast wars, but it's also used as the baseline term in several continuities, especially those featuring Onyx Prime.

@TheLunchKing
If you're taking suggestions...

1. The big problem with mobilizing the harbinger, after you get energon and repairs dealt with, is that the Nemesis controls the orbitals. Harby might be a big enough deal for the cons to fuck secrecy and bombard you. I suggest you at the very least wait for them to be on the other side of the planet before trying to launch.

2. Insecticons are connected on some level in Prime continuity. This is also a network that can be hacked and manipulated, on the other hand it's two way, so be careful trying to mess with it. This could be a tool or inspiration for hive queen or something.

3. Hive queen is an ideal candidate for a combiner, albeit not in the classical fashion where multiple regular to large bots conglomerate into a huge bot, but instead a regular to large bot that breaks down into multiple smaller bots. I.e. the drone altmodes are the robot mode's limbs, armor, and weapons. This works better for an HQ that has it's own network separate from the Insecticons. They can alter or expand their powers by building new drones though, maybe even let other people borrow their weapon or tool modes?

4. HQ as the scraplet tamer? Use some of the Insecticon networking components and the dead scraplet(s?) to give it the ability to go full cybertronian Skitter.

5. Incorporating the artifacts into bots in order to give them closer bonds and mastery of the devices should be possible, much like with the ground bridge controls, although maybe not for Nemmy's current mastery of cybertronian science and tech, not to mention the limits of the experimental rig she's working with. That said even if you did want to go that way... Well two of the artifacts Nemmy has are kind of... Not physically compatible with the process. The Apex armor is as usual it's own worst enemy here, since it's indestructible a bot can't be integrated into it or integrate it any more than shown in the series. A bot could be optimized for using it, but you'd end up essentially using it as a reinforced spark chamber for a bot built around it rather than outer armor.

6. That cold forge might be even more useful than it appears. It can do major overhauls to the material placed in it, and even with proto-form magic providing an assist to the final product it still did a lot of the work before hand. It can probably function as a med/repair bay, especially given how multi-purpose cybertronian tech is during the great war era. This might give Nemmy and the Kids a lot of flexibility if they can just turn random scrap into parts and upgrades. Furthermore it might be able to identify and isolate specific components from said materials in order to let you see what other bots have and how they use it. This could essentially be a multipurpose fabber with built in databases, on top of all the other bullshit it does. It may not be able to make artifact grade gear like the hammer of Solus Prime, but as far as day to day practicality goes it's probably better.

@Krazyfan1
Most of the outer armor can be dropped, or torn off, though if there's a way to do it on purpose for most bots I don't know. Adding extra ablative armor is complicated because you have to get the t-cog to work with it, and if you do that it's not extra ablative armor anymore, it's your skin.
 
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@TheOmnimercurial
They do: Maximal, Eukarian, beastformer, quintspawn, Beast Era Cybertronian, or luckless sod depending on timeline and era.

Yes maximal is the 'good' faction name from the beast wars, but it's also used as the baseline term in several continuities, especially those featuring Onyx Prime.

@TheLunchKing
If you're taking suggestions...

1. The big problem with mobilizing the harbinger, after you get energon and repairs dealt with, is that the Nemesis controls the orbitals. Harby might be a big enough deal for the cons to fuck secrecy and bombard you. I suggest you at the very least wait for them to be on the other side of the planet before trying to launch.
Really logical, that one.
But this is where that shield & phase artifacts can come in, besides using his color alteration system together with a stealth system, that is.
Just going when they are on the otherside, might still show you when you try for the Dark Side of the Moon, so you can use the spacebridge, there.
2. Insecticons are connected on some level in Prime continuity. This is also a network that can be hacked and manipulated, on the other hand it's two way, so be careful trying to mess with it. This could be a tool or inspiration for hive queen or something.

3. Hive queen is an ideal candidate for a combiner, albeit not in the classical fashion where multiple regular to large bots conglomerate into a huge bot, but instead a regular to large bot that breaks down into multiple smaller bots. I.e. the drone altmodes are the robot mode's limbs, armor, and weapons. This works better for an HQ that has it's own network separate from the Insecticons. They can alter or expand their powers by building new drones though, maybe even let other people borrow their weapon or tool modes?

4. HQ as the scraplet tamer? Use some of the Insecticon networking components and the dead scraplet(s?) to give it the ability to go full cybertronian Skitter.
Some very interesting thoughts, there.
Why do I see a Armada & Energon Prime their link up systems being the main setup.
As in lower body, wings & four limbs.
Could easily make the leg part, be the feets, while the arms are either two bigger bots or else four bots, joined together.
And if you add in Scraplet stuff, you can even add in some heavy duty cutting tools/weapons, that are quite modular.
Not true scraplets.
Something that might be wanted for a digging team and thus might let you find some interesting alt-modes.
5. Incorporating the artifacts into bots in order to give them closer bonds and mastery of the devices should be possible, much like with the ground bridge controls, although maybe not for Nemmy's current mastery of cybertronian science and tech, not to mention the limits of the experimental rig she's working with. That said even if you did want to go that way... Well two of the artifacts Nemmy has are kind of... Not physically compatible with the process. The Apex armor is as usual it's own worst enemy here, since it's indestructible a bot can't be integrated into it or integrate it any more than shown in the series. A bot could be optimized for using it, but you'd end up essentially using it as a reinforced spark chamber for a bot built around it rather than outer armor.

6. That cold forge might be even more useful than it appears. It can do major overhauls to the material placed in it, and even with proto-form magic providing an assist to the final product it still did a lot of the work before hand. It can probably function as a med/repair bay, especially given how multi-purpose cybertronian tech is during the great war era. This might give Nemmy and the Kids a lot of flexibility if they can just turn random scrap into parts and upgrades. Furthermore it might be able to identify and isolate specific components from said materials in order to let you see what other bots have and how they use it. This could essentially be a multipurpose fabber with built in databases, on top of all the other bullshit it does. It may not be able to make artifact grade gear like the hammer of Solus Prime, but as far as day to day practicality goes it's probably better.

@Krazyfan1
Most of the outer armor can be dropped, or torn off, though if there's a way to do it on purpose for most bots I don't know. Adding extra ablative armor is complicated because you have to get the t-cog to work with it, and if you do that it's not extra ablative armor anymore, it's your skin.
I'm just waiting for NemeSIs to nab Shockwave and weaponize his SCIENCE!. True, he is an amoral ass but not an unreasonable one. Getting him out of Megatron's hands before he even has a chance to meet him and establishing at the very least a neutral rapport will go a long way in keeping everyone relatively safer from his mad science. Then again, he is absolutely going to want to study NemeSIs in very close detail, probably open her up to see what makes her tick, but then again as previously stated, he's reasonable, NemeSIs could compromise in allowing non-lethal research on herself in exchange for Shockwave as an ally. Hmmm, too many "ifs" as of now plus it's still pretty far off, what will really help is getting her new "faction" better established.
These row of quotes together and then adding in some Hammer Time with the Forge Of Solus.
Shockwave is cold logic, in his thinking, yet a old friend of Megatron.
If there is a bot, that might be willing to help prevent things escalating into beyond repair.....
Megatron is now what he originally fought against, the Autobots now stand for this very principle, thanks to Orian Pax becoming Optimus Prime.
So yeah, if he can use logic, with Shockwave, that without a third party to lower the two factions abilities to escalate, things will just get worse & Cybertron will most certainly die, just before Unicron re-appears.

So yeah, grabbing the forge and a key, prevents things going wonky.
And if there is a bot that can see the logic of a third party, then it's Shockwave.
Afteral, two dogs are fighting for a bone, the third dog runs off with it, a very human saying.
Autobots & Decepticons ruined it for everybody and no third faction to tell them that this is enough, go stand in the corner and grow the scrap up.
The two factions are basically bitch fighting, only caring about beating the other.
Nemesis might want to inform Shockwave of her SI status, though, just so she can tell him about her original universe, it's various Transformer Verses and how in 50% of them, Earth was Unicron and Unicron is about to start waking up again.

Decepticon
Predacon
Now what is the meaning of the words, Deception & Con-job?
I mean, Predator is easy, but I don't think that Maximals, where all herbivores(?), right?
O and why am I thinking Horizon Forbidden West, here?
 
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