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I hope we get more of this. What you've gotten here is really cool.
Sudden Active Development... I certainly feel SAD at the moment (Transformers Prime SI)
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I'm glad you enjoyed General Nemesis One omake story and no worries, I'm making more chapters.
Thoughts on the recent chapter so far?
Indubitably, and it made Sentinel something beyond furious about it. To know that he could have become a legitimate Prime successor of the Thirteen all this time had he stayed true to Cybertron but he blew it all up with his betrayal and made himself nothing more than "Quintessa's Puppet Prime", dancing by her strings that he put himself under.
Of course, Sentinel would rather double down hard than admit that he made the biggest mistake of his life for 50 cycles.
Sentinel knew that the High Guard will never let their general fight alone and thus stay by her side at all times whenever she goes out of the main base. Out of fear of losing her after they had lost the Thirteen who went on their own by themselves and died unceremoniously because the Primes didn't bring the High Guard with them.
So yeah, it will be a full scale assault by Sentinel with the full power of Megatronus Prime's T-Cog and his entire Trackers army upon General Nemesis and her High Guard once Airachnid eventually finds the main base. Which would be easier said than done as the general had ordered Soundwave to give the femme fatale a wild cyber-goose chase across Cybertron.
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While most of the chapter is fun, don't get me wrong, the thing that caught my eye is the mention of Nemesis' spark being different from the average cybertronian, mostly cause this Nemesis was either transported or the cybertronian equivalent of a mutant.
I'm also most curious about D-16 and Orion having more encounters with Nemesis, since I doubt either could beat her in combat on their own even as Megatron/Optimus Prime at this point in time.
Nemesis getting to talk with D-16 could set the road on a better path, especially if she has time to train the two in actual combat, though I wonder how Orion will prove himself worthy of the Matrix since it cost his literal life in the movie.
Edit: Also off topic, but I also like how well the Apochrypha chapter we have here fits into Orion Pax's personality.
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The latter as SI Nemesis in this TF One AU crossover is born as a proper Cybertronian, not a human-made Robot Frankenstein's Monster drone in the main story, but her spark was formerly her human soul, which stood her out from the average Cybertronians.
But as Megatronus firmly stated to his fellow Prime, Micronus, they are in no position to judge SI Nemesis for being different when they themselves are different* from the rest of the Transformers race, and she's considered one of the children of Primus regardless.
*The Thirteen are like Robot Space Angels who serve Primus who is Robot Space God and when they perish, their bodies didn't turn gray like the average Cybertronian as shown with the demise of Sentinel the Robot Space Judas and Orion Pax, who later got better as Optimus Prime the Robot Space Jesus. And that their T-Cogs gave a massive boost of power to any Cybertronian who installed it into them compared to ordinary T-Cogs.
By the way, the Point One Percenter that Micronus mentioned in his assumption of SI Nemesis being one was a reference to 2005 IDW Transformers continuity. Just simply a theory that Micronus can never get to research more since he and his fellow Primes died in the ambush with Alpha Trion as the sole survivor in stasis lock.
That is true. In this story, General Nemesis was an apprentice of Megatronus Prime, the strongest of the Thirteen and she was a veteran of the Cybertronian-Quintesson War where she earned her "General of Destruction" epithet and her fearsome reputation.
Even with the T-Cogs of Prima and Onyx, Orion and D-16 would be complete amateurs to General Nemesis who'd whip them to shape. That also includes Elita-1 who was the best fighter among the quartet and B-127 who was pretty clumsy with his Energon knife hands.
Agreed, from what I saw in the Transformers One movie, there was no opportunity for Orion Pax and D-16 to sit down and talk things out. They get interrupted twice in a row: High Guard knocking them out for trespassing in their territory and Airachnid showing up right after D-16 takes control of the High Guard from Starscream.
So yeah, in this story, with Soundwave giving Airachnid a wild cyber-goose chase, General Nemesis would have all the time to talk to D-16 and train the four heroes how to fight and discover more of their abilities unlocked by the T-Cogs of the Primes gifted to them by Alpha Trion.
As for the Matrix of Leadership's return, we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
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While true, that's not exactly what I was referring to,
What I meant specifically was Nemesis beating D-16 with the T-Cog of Megatronus Prime and Optimus Prime with the Matrix of Leadership in a 1v1, like they both were at the end of the movie.
I make this distinction since D-16 with Megatronus Cog handily beats both Elita and Bee in the movie who then gets defeated by Optimus.
Effectively making Nemesis the strongest cybertronian of the time period around without counting the ones that scale above mortals.
I do think though that with the time Nemesis bought them a fight wouldn't really come to pass between them which is a huge factor as you said, not to mention that with the training and teamwork they can definitely beat Sentinel. Maybe they'll even save Alpha Trion!
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Ah I see, good points there.
There's also Sentinel when he accessed the full power of Megatronus' T-Cog in an attempt to wipe out Orion Pax and his friends. He was quite unstoppable even for the quartet despite they have T-Cogs of the previous Primes empowering them until he had foolishly lowered his guard when standing frozen in shock to see the people of Iacon watching the broadcast of him kneeling to the Quintessons and turned against him. It allowed D-16 to take advantage immediately and surprise tackle him from behind, ending up disabling Sentinel's golden winged jetpack to crash land in the final act of the film.
Through Sentinel's stolen power of Megatronus Prime that he will always go all out whenever he faced her in battle, it's the reason why General Nemesis couldn't just go Bayverse Optimus Brutality on him for his treachery and murder. And that Sentinel knew better than to underestimate Nemesis who is the Cybertronian equivalent of the strongest mortal compared to him possessing the power of one of the strongest godlike beings he had backstabbed and stole for himself.
He rightfully called her "a major pain on his aft" for 50 cycles after all, having specifically warned Airachnid to not attack the base by herself once she finds it like she did in the film.
On the other hand, I'm surprised you didn't remark about the Quintessons being led by Quintessa, the self-proclaimed "Prime of Life" and "The Great Deceiver", and the renegade daughter of Quintus Prime as the first of his creations that became Cybertronian race's ancient enemy for thousands of cycles in this chapter. Especially the mention of Unicron and his followers, the Terrorcons and the Infernocons that the Thirteen had fought off and won together as one.
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I didn't remark on those because I don't know enough about the Quintessons or Quintessa enough to have any real opinion.
Though, the Primes beating the Terrorcons and Unicron, while surprising, makes sense given how Unicron ends up in the Prime continuity.
They rocked him hard enough to the point where he goes the fuck to sleep and I respect the hell outta that.
Granted, that's probably not what happened in the Prime continuity, but if 1 Prime could put Unicron to sleep, so could 13.
Edit: Admittedly, about the Nemesis vs Sentinel stuff, I always figured that it was cause Sentinel would never fight her in a proper 1v1 and overwhelm her with sheer numbers.
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Fair enough.
I do find it odd about the Archives stating that Primus sacrificed his own body to become Cybertron permanently and brought forth the Thirteen when Orion Pax snuck in to access the files at the start of the film. No mention of Unicron and the Primes' victorious battle against him at all, which I believe that the information was probably heavily encrypted and sealed away so that no one would know about the Chaos Bringer and Dark Energon.
On the other hand, it's a miracle that Quintus Prime didn't get a bad reputation of being the creator of the Quintessons that became an ancient enemy of Cybertron. He would have been Condemned by History for it by the Cybertronians. I know TF One film didn't seem to mention such connection (because the time constraints and all) but it would have been perfect for Sentinel to use Quintus as a convenient scapegoat and tarnish his name and memory aside self-inserting himself among the Primes and act as if he was one of them.
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It's also possible that the information was simply lost in the original story under the possibility that the Archives were created long after the battle.
Either that, or the information was simply never recorded at all as a way to control the information.
True. But it can be a double edged sword though. The Cybertronians would be caught off guard of Unicron's existence and won't know how to face such a threat and only Optimus with the Matrix of Leadership giving him the knowledge about the Chaos Bringer would use it to stop him by sealing the anti-spark away or blow him up from the inside. Or similarly like his TF Prime counterpart, Megatron would stumble on some traces of Unicron's existence and decide to use Dark Energon to empower himself and gain a bigger advantage at the cost of his spark no longer being one with the Allspark when he eventually perishes.
From @TheLunchKing in Page 19:
"She knows quite a bit of the aligned series. Most of War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron as well as TFP Canon. She also has knowledge on other transformers continuities but its a bit spotty since I haven't refreshed my memories on them.
But names of notable Autobots and Decepticons are at least going to be somewhat known. As well as some other things from other continuities, but she may not be 100% accurate on them."
It's what I go with this and that I checked SI Nemesis doesn't seem to have knowledge about Sentinel at all in the main story. Not only that, she cannot always remember everything accurately and things don't go accordingly to canon when the canon rails of TF Prime are gone long ago.
From General Nemesis's perspective, Sentinel pre-betrayal was a friend from work and she worked professionally with him when coordinating Cybertron's war effort against the Quintessons as general of the High Guard and the chief advisor of the Primes respectively.
Sentinel would definitely have used sheer numbers of his Trackers but the High Guard will be there to protect Nemesis and won't let her stand alone. They failed the Primes but they will not fail their general.
On the other hand, there are terrible implications behind the Trackers (a.k.a. TF One Vehicons) who are quite different from average Cybertronians such as... where did the T-Cogs that Sentinel had them removed from the Cogless miners go?
I think he put the t-cogs he took in the drones he has
Thanks, glad to know I nailed Orion Pax at the first chapter of General Nemesis One. Of course the challenging part is to do the same for D-16 who had his rage slowly consuming him after finding out the terrible truth.
Especially the fact he said to Orion that he won't trust another leader again before the High Guard captured them for trespassing on their turf....
Wow, TF One Sentinel is similarly like Beast Machines Megatron who took the sparks of Cybertronians and place them into Vehicon Drones as his army alongside the Vehicon Generals.
1. Thrust - from the spark of Waspinator, a Predacon.
2. Tankor - from the spark of Rhinox, a Maximal.
3. Jetstorm - from the spark of Silverbolt, a Maximal.
4. Strika - from the spark of Autobot General Strika from the Great War.
5. Obsidian - from the spark of Autobot General Obsidian from the Great War.
I made a Tv Tropes page for you, @TheLunchKing and I hope you like it.
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Yooooo, that's the second of my stories that has gotten a Tv Tropes page. Me is honored.
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Edit: Next chappie coming soon.
Glad you're very pleased and that I have to start binge reading all of your chapters to keep adding more tropes to your story.
And awesome, I look forward to your next chapter.
