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Stark Transcendent (Iron Man/Marvel Quest)

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serapheus said:
What infrastructure? With repulsor mk.2 our shuttles wont need infrastructure. Hell we could probably do VTOL spacecraft if we wanted.

Like I said, I want to be asteroid mining soonest. It completely frees up Tony from most supply chains, as he'll be able to get supplies for his work for essentially free.
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There is the fact that NASA has so much more specialized equipment than we do. After all, they've been doing this for more than 30 years, and landed on the moon without the kind of super-tech that we can build.

We'll need trained astronauts, launch facilities, permission from governments so they don't try and shoot us down, etc. All these things that NASA has and we, being a weapons corporation, don't.
 
Roarian said:
It's already in my plan, I just didn't include it here since I didn't want to overload the list with stuff. I have it listed as a follow-up on mass-producible ones which seems fine as far as I can tell. You can write-in a good excuse for why it fits elsewhere, though. I'm flexible, the tech tree I made is malleable depending on where people want to go. I'm open to pretty much anything that is not 100% boring board meetings and snarling at Reed Richards. ;)
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Excellent! Excellent!

Okay, with that in mind, my votes are:

[X] Arc Custom Industrial Design : Mass-production is neat, but inherently dangerous due to the portability and ease of use of your reactors, even with their safeties armed. Large, unwieldy versions that work at lower energy densities would be far more long-term reliable, and they would be all but impossible to use for any nefarious purpose. Designed to fail at any tampering, these could really revolutionize clean energy-generation.

[X] Repulsor Mk1 : You've worked on these beauties before, but you'd never had the opportunity before to make them mobile, or even practical. Reactionless drives will get you in the door with every private spaceflight company in the world, and probably with NASA, who have been standoffish in making deals before.

[X] Exoskeleton Mk1 : You've got enough supplies to work on a little project that occurred to you in Afghanistan, though you didn't have time to make it happen, there. With the power of the arc reactor, you could make a suit that makes the wearer exponentially more powerful and bulletproof, improving on military exosuit plans. With your tools, you can skip big and bulky, and go straight to sleek and powerful.

[X] Main Computer Upgrade : Upgrading Jarvis' mainframe will make him more helpful, and besides that any technological feats will be easier with the proper support. If you ever want to get into proper sci-fi-style craziness with computers or AIs, you'll need good computers. REALLY good computers.


Reasoning:
-The Industrial Arc Reactors give us an immediate, safe foot in the door for Clean Energy. Even better, they give us more time to work on the safer small reactors (obviously not this turn, but).
-As some have noted, starting on Repulsors will, long-term, give us an inroad for better spaceflight. Going all Space-X on the operation is an even better idea.
-POWER ARMOR!
-More computing power is ALWAYS good. Plus this could open up making things like quantum computers, crystal computers, etc.

I would vote that our next couple of projects includ the Mass Produced Mark 1 followed immediately by the Low Density Mobile Arc Reactor. Or "Car Model Arc Reactor", whatever you wanna call it.
 
Tylonius said:
Sure, they let us build way better engines. But we'd still need to build, you know, the entire rest of the rocket. Electronics, atmosphere containment and recycling, waste disposal, science stuff, and other things I can't name because I'm not a rocket engineer. The point is, there is more to a rocket than the engines.
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Tony's built space-capable suits, space-colonies and giant spaceships before, so it's not like it's un-achievable. Given that he's blowing past the capabilities of everyone in canon with his suit, targeting that expertise elsewhere will get you much the same reaction. Admittedly having Tony Stark paying a visit to Tranquility Bay on a bet with Reed Richards seems fun.
 
NASA doesn't build all their own shit; they source a lot of it from contractors.

And honestly, with how easy Tony's tech is to misuse, I want EVERYTHING in house and safetied up the wazoo. Have our AIs do manufacturing and security, because it's gonna get stolen but I'm gonna make it hard as fuck to do.
 
Tylonius said:
Sure, they let us build way better engines. But we'd still need to build, you know, the entire rest of the rocket. Electronics, atmosphere containment and recycling, waste disposal, science stuff, and other things I can't name because I'm not a rocket engineer. The point is, there is more to a rocket than the engines.
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Guys, we don't need the rest of the rocket. We just need a huge box that can survive the trip, and a remote suit capable of taking it to the moon. Then we build a moonbase.
shadowfleck said:
There is the fact that NASA has so much more specialized equipment than we do. After all, they've been doing this for more than 30 years, and landed on the moon without the kind of super-tech that we can build.

We'll need trained astronauts, launch facilities, permission from governments so they don't try and shoot us down, etc. All these things that NASA has and we, being a weapons corporation, don't.
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We don't need astronauts, we have Jarvis.
We don't need launch facilities, we could just fly over the ocean and go up from there.
Nobody is going to shoot us down over international waters.

We're not building a space program. We can skip that. Go straight to the moonbase.
 
serapheus said:
-sharpening knives- Oh, no, no worries, mate. -puts remote IP tracker in travel bag- No issues what so ever. -checks safety on harpoon gun- It'll be fine.

...now where did I put that 'torture for dummies' book? -goes looking-

On other topics, I also want to boot the board off, get Stark industries back into Stark hands completely.
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Impossible. Or at least, way too difficult to even consider.
 
Enohthree said:
Guys, we don't need the rest of the rocket. We just need a huge box that can survive the trip, and a remote suit capable of taking it to the moon. Then we build a moonbase.


We don't need astronauts, we have Jarvis.
We don't need launch facilities, we could just fly over the ocean and go up from there.
Nobody is going to shoot us down over international waters.

We're not building a space program. We can skip that. Go straight to the moonbase.
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What are we going to do with a moon base? Well, many things. What do we need one for right now?
 
serapheus said:
Not really. Before we tell the board that we've got a working design for the industrial arc reactor, publicly announce that we're massively folding back our weapons production for the foreseeable future. When the stock drops like a stone offer to buy out the board members. Some ill go for it, others won't. But if even one does then the company is even more in Tony's hands.
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Isn't that ya'know, insider trading?
 
lost egos said:
[X] Arc Custom Industrial Design​
[X] Repulsor Mk1​
[X] Exoskeleton Mk1​
[X] Main Computer Upgrade​
I agree on keeping the best tech in house but cheap space flight for everyone would be a boon we just have to get the safeties in place unless you all are planing to make stark corp into a a hyper corp.
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In at least one possible future, Stark Industries built four gigantic space elevators and multiple 100-million people megacities surrounding them. (Before the AI went crazy, and started dropping the elevators onto populated areas, neatly destroying the biosphere.) What I'm saying is - it wouldn't be a new thing.
 
Forgothrax said:
And honestly, with how easy Tony's tech is to misuse, I want EVERYTHING in house and safetied up the wazoo. Have our AIs do manufacturing and security, because it's gonna get stolen but I'm gonna make it hard as fuck to do.
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Well, after a point we're gonna need Stark Tower or another new house with more room. We're on a fairly small little island-thing.
serapheus said:
On other topics, I also want to boot the board off, get Stark industries back into Stark hands completely.
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We need to completely buy out any other shareholders then. That's the only legal way without doing some wacky legal steps.
We can't just say "LOL STARK INDUSTRIES OUR COMPANY BITCHES". There are these things called "laws" we still need to follow.
Enohthree said:
Guys, we don't need the rest of the rocket. We just need a huge box that can survive the trip, and a remote suit capable of taking it to the moon. Then we build a moonbase.

We don't need astronauts, we have Jarvis.
We don't need launch facilities, we could just fly over the ocean and go up from there.
Nobody is going to shoot us down over international waters.

We're not building a space program. We can skip that. Go straight to the moonbase.
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Okay, but if we want someone besides Tony himself in space, yes, we do need astronauts and a space program.
 
We do not want a moon base. What we do want is a massive zero-g metal processing station in Terran or Lunar orbit, or at one of the L-points. Using massive repulsor tugs, we then launch asteroids at the station and have tugs based off the station catch the asteroids and bring them in for processing, while a steady stream of SSTOs land material from the station.

Alternatively, we use AIs and repulsors to loft thousands of solar mirrors into orbit and then throughout the solar system, which use reflected solar light and the principles of light pressure to melt asteroids and spin them to bring the heaviest materials to the surface like a centrifuge, then chop them apart.
 
KnightDisciple said:
Well, after a point we're gonna need Stark Tower or another new house with more room. We're on a fairly small little island-thing.
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Agreed.

Maybe keep this place as a vacation home, or at least somewhere we can come to relax, do minor work.
 
KnightDisciple said:
Well, after a point we're gonna need Stark Tower or another new house with more room. We're on a fairly small little island-thing.
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What I meant by in-house was that all the Stark magitech should be controlled and used only by Stark Industries or well-trusted organizations (aka SHIELD). We definitely should look into a private island, though.
 
[X] Arc Custom Industrial Design

[X] Repulsor Mk1

[X] Exoskeleton Mk1

[X] Main Computer Upgrade
 
Forgothrax said:
What I meant by in-house was that all the Stark magitech should be controlled and used only by Stark Industries or well-trusted organizations (aka SHIELD). We definitely should look into a private island, though.
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Did you just name the organization that was making super-weapons on the sly and lying about it, while manipulating people in order to use them as weapons, as trustworthy?

I mean, they're cool, but it's more that some people within it are trustworthy, rather than the organization. They only need to boot Nick Fury and instantly it's a potential tool for massive trouble. Remember that time Norman Osborn was the leader of the organization? How about Tony himself, in one of his more megalomaniacal moods?
 
Roarian said:
Did you just name the organization that was making super-weapons on the sly and lying about it, while manipulating people in order to use them as weapons, as trustworthy?

I mean, they're cool, but it's more that some people within it are trustworthy, rather than the organization. They only need to boot Nick Fury and instantly it's a potential tool for massive trouble. Remember that time Norman Osborn was the leader of the organization? How about Tony himself, in one of his more megalomaniacal moods?
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More so than the general public. They're massive tools, mind you, but they tend to act in defense of Earth. I don't trust the US government or the public with our tech for fear of causing supervillains to pop up. SHIELD is more likely to use the stuff to defend the public against superpowered threats.

I'd rather we set up something like the Protectorate from Worm and acted as their boss Tinker/Dragon, but that's a long-term goal.
 
Enohthree said:
Eh, not really. You just put them in the box. Or in a Jarvis controlled suit.
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Or we don't be an over-controlling asshole and actually let people train up to fly in space.

EDIT: Chunq, I would suggest holding off on synthesized Vibranium until we have better main computers to help with molecular modeling and such.
 
KnightDisciple said:
Or we don't be an over-controlling asshole and actually let people train up to fly in space.

EDIT: Chunq, I would suggest holding off on synthesized Vibranium until we have better main computers to help with molecular modeling and such.
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It's just, if they want to be an astronaut, they can go get trained at NASA or something.
If they want to get to our moon base, you don't have to be an astronaut. We certainly aren't an astronaut. A bunch of people I want to take up there aren't going to be either. So making a method that relies on them being one doesn't make sense to me.
 
Forgothrax said:
More so than the general public. They're massive tools, mind you, but they tend to act in defense of Earth. I don't trust the US government or the public with our tech for fear of causing supervillains to pop up. SHIELD is more likely to use the stuff to defend the public against superpowered threats.

I'd rather we set up something like the Protectorate from Worm and acted as their boss Tinker/Dragon, but that's a long-term goal.
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Hmm, perhaps some sort of...initiative?
 
I vote we hold off on the moon base till we have artificial gravity and other advanced space base techs. Otherwise we will have to train anyone who goes up there.
 
Enohthree said:
It's just, if they want to be an astronaut, they can go get trained at NASA or something.
If they want to get to our moon base, you don't have to be an astronaut. We certainly aren't an astronaut. A bunch of people I want to take up there aren't going to be either. So making a method that relies on them being one doesn't make sense to me.
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I'm not saying the only method we make has to require a bunch of training, but taking control entirely out of their hands no matter what seems a bit much.

But Ty's got a point about holding off on space tech. Let's get some terrestrial stuff fixed up first, eh?
 
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