Stark Transcendent (Iron Man/Marvel Quest)

wertsir · Jul 28, 2016

Yeangst said:
A nuke delivers plenty of kinetic energy.

I am aware of this, yet it will likely be ineffective, as this is a comic book universe in which things like 'immunity to explosions' somehow exist, and don't make their users invincible despite the numerous damaging factors involved in an explosion of that magnitude.

Surely Pyre explosions would also carry a large amount of kinetic force (we used them to blow up a terrorist base before) yet if that were all it took to kill it it would not be a threat, thus it is implied that it is immune to conventional explosives, and we must revert to the age-old strategy of 'punch it really hard', only now we have the advantage of being able to punch it with fists of metal accelerated by electromagnetic force, rather than weak fleshy bits.

Stardust&Scotch · Jul 28, 2016

There is also the problem to consider of fallout - literal and metaphorical. Firstly, regardless of whether or not it worked, there'd be radioactive fallout occurring, potentially close to civilian areas, potentially over fishing areas. I dunno about you, but irradiating potential customers seems like bad business sense, and in terms of radiation mixing with creatures in the deeper sea...one super-sized monster is bad enough. The LAST thing we need is for Tony Stark to create a modern Godzilla. Next, if it did work, we'd have pretty handily wiped out any goodwill with everyone, save the military (and even then not all of them - "tactical nuke" is still a toxic phrase for a reason, and its toxicity is definitely part of what did Goldwater in during the '64 election--but I digress). Worse, if it didn't work...well, we just sparked a new arms race on a scale of money and destructive capability to make the nuclear race look like kid's derby cars.

Going conventional (for a given value of the word, considering the Iron Man/StarkTech being used) may be riskier short-term, but the long-term risks of the nuclear option make it a very bad option in my book. One that should only be used if we're in a backs-to-the-wall, "survive now, consequences later" situation. Plus, at that point, it isn't a given that we'd survive. Right away, anyhow. I dunno how the STU's iteration of the Phoenix Force feels about nuclear weapons, or mixing them with us.

CrackedCosmonaut · Apr 22, 2017

We want closure.

Ghostdevil · Apr 22, 2017

Oh I thought this was back

Ohwell

CyberFemme · Apr 22, 2017

I had a brief moment of hope.

pbluekan · Apr 22, 2017

CrackedCosmonaut said:
We want closure.

Dude. For fucks sake. Get out.

tenchifew · Apr 22, 2017

I do know SV does not have necromancy rules, and I am ok with long resting threads being revived due to a lengthy omake or a meaningful contribution...
But posting in a thread nine months old to pester the author?

Really?

wertsir · Apr 22, 2017

You should all be careful, because while SV does not have rules forbidding necromancy, it does have rules forbidding complaining about necromancy. (as I was taught earlier in this very thread).

Though I agree that pestering Roarian is a bit rude, if he wants to continue it he will do so when he can, if he doesn't he won't, complaining about it will not change anything.

godofsmallthings · Apr 22, 2017

Eh, I would suggest that people stop piling on the poor guy (I am kinda sure that it's against the rules too); he's got a family for god sake.

Plus y'all need to learn the difference between OP posts and regular posts.

Generic_Generica · Apr 22, 2017

stop SV has never had rules against thread necromancy.

We do however have rules when it comes to people complaining about thread necromancy.

@pbluekan? Take a warning for marginal behavior, next time it's points.

Everyone else? Drop it.

Aureate · Apr 22, 2017

Would you like 'apocalypse by a giant mutated flammable decaying Nazi horror dragon leaking mutagen' as your ending? Because given where we left off...

But nonetheless... If it's the OP posting, it'll say so in the alert.

Roarian · Apr 22, 2017

Yeah, I'm certain we'll notice if the OP shows up.

Tylonius · Apr 22, 2017

Roarian said:
Yeah, I'm certain we'll notice if the OP shows up.

Look, do you mind? We're trying to let this thread die back down till the OP gets back.

Fucking newbs...

Wootius · Apr 22, 2017

Roarian said:
Yeah, I'm certain we'll notice if the OP shows up.

I've forgotten what their avatar looks like personally.

Hangwind · Apr 22, 2017

Roarian said:
Yeah, I'm certain we'll notice if the OP shows up.

*whimper*

tri2 · Apr 22, 2017

did anyone figure out if setting the dragon on fire by shooting into its mouth was a valid tactic or not?

Tackyseven · Apr 22, 2017

That moment when you don't remember what quest this is so you look at the threadmarks

*Sudden flashback of awesome space race for petty reason intensify*

Not bad for a hairless billionaire

edit: did the vote close ?

Trondason · Apr 22, 2017

Tackyseven said:
edit: did the vote close ?

Technically, no

wertsir · Apr 22, 2017

tri2 said:
did anyone figure out if setting the dragon on fire by shooting into its mouth was a valid tactic or not?

Likely not.

The military/shield already noticed it, and anything they tried would have ignited the Pyre, so we can assume that it was ineffective from the fact that the dragon is still coming.

Trondason said:
Technically, no

In the time this vote has been open, we had an entire presidential election. then fourish months of presidency.

Slowest. vote. ever.

Roarian · Apr 22, 2017

wertsir said:
Likely not.

The military/shield already noticed it, and anything they tried would have ignited the Pyre, so we can assume that it was ineffective from the fact that the dragon is still coming.

In the time this vote has been open, we had an entire presidential election. then four months of presidency.

Slowest. vote. ever.

At least I offered more than two shit options!

Anyway, I think we did close the vote since I have it in my notes:

[X] Combination : Combine elements of options below - but beware confusion or the possibility of possibly compounding negative effects.
-[X] SHIELD knows Best : Employ fliers and long-range fighters for a sea assault, with short-range and less mobile fighters in NY to act as backup in case things don't work out. This is likely the most effective employment of forces, if perhaps not the safest.
-[X] Peter has a Point : Relegate the small-time melee combatants, least likely to be helpful against a big-ass dragon, to help civilians in the city, assisting with evacuation and protecting against rioters and other problems. This would likely exclude them from directly affecting the central battle, but may save lives among the unpowered population.

Riggnarock · Apr 22, 2017

We have Deadpool and Deadpool has some very sharp blades and a healing factor

just cover him in barbecue sauce and let him do his thing

Edit: someone please do a joke about him being our man on the inside, I'm too tired.

Tackyseven · Apr 22, 2017

Roarian said:
Anyway, I think we did close the vote since I have it in my notes:

And on the...275th day it rose again!

Remember @CrackedCosmonaut

Always use your power of Necromancy for good

Varano · Apr 22, 2017

[X] Combination : Combine elements of options below - but beware confusion or the possibility of possibly compounding negative effects.
-[X] SHIELD knows Best : Employ fliers and long-range fighters for a sea assault, with short-range and less mobile fighters in NY to act as backup in case things don't work out. This is likely the most effective employment of forces, if perhaps not the safest.
-[X] Peter has a Point : Relegate the small-time melee combatants, least likely to be helpful against a big-ass dragon, to help civilians in the city, assisting with evacuation and protecting against rioters and other problems. This would likely exclude them from directly affecting the central battle, but may save lives among the unpowered population.

pbluekan · Apr 22, 2017

Roarian said:
At least I offered more than two shit options!

Anyway, I think we did close the vote since I have it in my notes:

[X] Combination : Combine elements of options below - but beware confusion or the possibility of possibly compounding negative effects.
-[X] SHIELD knows Best : Employ fliers and long-range fighters for a sea assault, with short-range and less mobile fighters in NY to act as backup in case things don't work out. This is likely the most effective employment of forces, if perhaps not the safest.
-[X] Peter has a Point : Relegate the small-time melee combatants, least likely to be helpful against a big-ass dragon, to help civilians in the city, assisting with evacuation and protecting against rioters and other problems. This would likely exclude them from directly affecting the central battle, but may save lives among the unpowered population.

Trondason · Apr 22, 2017

Roarian said:
At least I offered more than two shit options!

Anyway, I think we did close the vote since I have it in my notes:

[X] Combination : Combine elements of options below - but beware confusion or the possibility of possibly compounding negative effects.
-[X] SHIELD knows Best : Employ fliers and long-range fighters for a sea assault, with short-range and less mobile fighters in NY to act as backup in case things don't work out. This is likely the most effective employment of forces, if perhaps not the safest.
-[X] Peter has a Point : Relegate the small-time melee combatants, least likely to be helpful against a big-ass dragon, to help civilians in the city, assisting with evacuation and protecting against rioters and other problems. This would likely exclude them from directly affecting the central battle, but may save lives among the unpowered population.

You never officially closed it. Votes died down eventually, which is probably where you just considered it closed.

Vote Tally : Stark Transcendent (Iron Man/Marvel Quest) | Page 540 | Sufficient Velocity
##### NetTally 1.7.4

[X] Combination : Combine elements of options below - but beware confusion or the possibility of possibly compounding negative effects.
-[X] SHIELD knows Best : Employ fliers and long-range fighters for a sea assault, with short-range and less mobile fighters in NY to act as backup in case things don't work out. This is likely the most effective employment of forces, if perhaps not the safest.
-[X] Peter has a Point : Relegate the small-time melee combatants, least likely to be helpful against a big-ass dragon, to help civilians in the city, assisting with evacuation and protecting against rioters and other problems. This would likely exclude them from directly affecting the central battle, but may save lives among the unpowered population.
No. of Votes: 24

[X] Cyclops
No. of Votes: 17

sidestory
Anaja
avatar11792
barenhart
Captain Hunt
cokerpilot
courtofdust
Gamewizard
Karmic Acumen
King Arthur
ltp15
redzonejoe
Riggnarock
Tabron89
ThatsSoKraven
Van Ropen
Zemratsu

[X] Nick Fury
No. of Votes: 9

doruma1920
Deathwings
Marlowe310811
masterofmadness
RoninSword
UbeOne
Walkin' Man
wootius
Zen

[X] Peter has a Point
No. of Votes: 5

Night_stalker
Anti-No
doruma1920
hcvquizibo
MrGazzer

[X] Combination : Combine elements of options below - but beware confusion or the possibility of possibly compounding negative effects.
-[X] X-Men or Bust : Go out with a handpicked team of best-qualified experts, keep the bulk of your forces back for a second strike in case the first team can't manage to hold the beast back. If a handful of big players can't handle it, two handfuls won't make much of a difference over sea - but everyone can help if they battle comes too close, because of support troops.
-[X] Peter has a Point : Relegate the small-time melee combatants, least likely to be helpful against a big-ass dragon, to help civilians in the city, assisting with evacuation and protecting against rioters and other problems. This would likely exclude them from directly affecting the central battle, but may save lives among the unpowered population.
No. of Votes: 5

sidestory
avatar11792
redzonejoe
Tabron89
Van Ropen

[X] Hank McCoy
No. of Votes: 5

minimap_op
Neptune
TheEyes
torrmercury
wertsir

[X] Plan Marlowe
No. of Votes: 3

Plan: ◈Marlowe
Ridiculously Average Guy
Tetsurou
Vanathor

[X] Human Torch
No. of Votes: 3

Night_stalker
MrGazzer
tenchifew

[X] Peter has a Point : Relegate the small-time melee combatants, least likely to be helpful against a big-ass dragon, to help civilians in the city, assisting with evacuation and protecting against rioters and other problems. This would likely exclude them from directly affecting the central battle, but may save lives among the unpowered population.
No. of Votes: 3

OddlyViciousCat
jacobk
Scify

[X] Deadpool
No. of Votes: 3

jacobk
Beto
pbluekan

[X] Combination
-[X] SHIELD knows Best
-[X] Peter has a Point (people not really able to hurt Fafnit are sent to help the civilians)
No. of Votes: 2

tenchifew
minimap_op

[X] Storm
No. of Votes: 2

Scify
Anti-No

[X] Renegade, in Two Parts
No. of Votes: 2

Marlowe310811
Angle

[X] SHIELD knows Best : Employ fliers and long-range fighters for a sea assault, with short-range and less mobile fighters in NY to act as backup in case things don't work out. This is likely the most effective employment of forces, if perhaps not the safest.
No. of Votes: 1

IcePickLobotomy

[x] By Their Deeds While dividing responsibility by team is acceptable, it's far from ideal. We have a number of different persons with a variety of different abilities. While on smaller missions, teams with such variation can provide a much-needed level of versatility, we are not dealing with a threat that any one team can handle. With that in mind, split up people by range, strength, and ability. Pyro and Human Torch can work off of eachother fantastically (though they should be kept as a latter resort in case of Pyre ignition, Pyro especially should work to contain any fires while there are combatants in range), Cyclops and Storm can easily work with Shocker and provide interference for Us and Rhodes (to say nothing of what assistance they can give in the initial bombing run), and giving Iceman a jetpack and having him work under Spiderman is an ideal combination to hamper Fafnir's movements in the air. Put people where they would be most effective, not necessarily on the same team.
No. of Votes: 1

Silver719

[X] Susan Storm
No. of Votes: 1

Dr. Bob Doom

[X] Shocker
No. of Votes: 1

OddlyViciousCat

[X] Fury
No. of Votes: 1

Daniel14541

[X] Combination : Combine elements of options below - but beware confusion or the possibility of possibly compounding negative effects.
No. of Votes: 1

wertsir

[x] X-Men or Bust : Go out with a handpicked team of best-qualified experts, keep the bulk of your forces back for a second strike in case the first team can't manage to hold the beast back. If a handful of big players can't handle it, two handfuls won't make much of a difference over sea - but everyone can help if they battle comes too close, because of support troops.
No. of Votes: 1

wertsir

[x] Peter has a Point : Relegate the small-time melee combatants, least likely to be helpful against a big-ass dragon, to help civilians in the city, xssisting with evacuation and protecting against rioters and other problems. This would likely exclude them from directly affecting the central battle, but may save lives among the unpowered population.
No. of Votes: 1

wertsir

[X] SHIELD knows Best
No. of Votes: 1

subsider34

[X] Rhodes
No. of Votes: 1

subsider34

[x] Combination
-[x] SHIELD Knows Best
-[x] Peter has a Point
No. of Votes: 1

UbeOne

[X] - Give her ideas
No. of Votes: 1

Anti-No

[X] - Give her bombs
No. of Votes: 1

Anti-No

[X] - More Jehrico! Steel rain!
No. of Votes: 1