[X] Attack the problem obliquely. Amu did describe some of her nightmare; paint that scene, along with Igor's car.
[X] Ask Maya to wait outside the limo.
When we get in, we can see if Igor wouldn't mind our guest coming with us. They don't have business with him, so it's only fair we ask before bringing them with us.
Probably going to need to add something to my vote.
She put the radio back in the bag, opened the door, and walked out of the supposed subway station without a second glance backwards. Maya was waiting around the corner, where she was—Miki had to do a double-take—cleaning her hair by the expedient of upending a portrait Miki was sure had shown a lake. The water was silty, but Maya didn't seem to mind.
A/N: Yes, you can consider this a motivation shift. It might not sound like a valid reason to gain Essence 5, but when you consider what it'd take to get there… I think it's fine.
... wait, are you saying it is a valid reason to get Ess 5?
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[ ] Attack the problem obliquely. Amu did describe some of her nightmare; paint that scene, along with Igor's car.
This relies on Igor's car being present at the location we paint. Otherwise, we're just inventing a car. (Alternatively, we're moving the car there. Somewhat rude.)
[ ] Try painting the inside of the car.
If this succeeds, we have just opened up a portal directly to the inside of the Velvet Room. Consider what will happen when someone else finds out about this and successfully duplicates it.
[ ] Paint just the car, or perhaps the side of the car, with a door.
This, on the other hand, is probably the most likely to work, and least rude. We can simply pull the painting-portal wider to see where the limo actually is, step through, and knock politely.
That said... I think it would probably be safer, and more polite, if we used lucid dreaming rather than shaping to get there. If that doesn't work relatively quickly, well, it's not like it's hard to find a wall and paint on it.
[X] Offer Maya a fresh, clean towel.
[X] Take an elevator (or painting) up to the surface. Walk to the park—it's not very far away—and look for the limo there, amongst the fog-shrouded trees. (Or parked at the intersection of two paths labeled [←Dream] and [Reality→]. Wherever it happens to be.)
- [X] Failing that, find/dream/shape a convenient surface, and paint the limo door.
- [X] Ask Maya to wait a moment; ask Igor before bringing Maya in.
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Maya looked around the desolate, fog-blanketed moor with a critical eye. "This does not look like the sort of place where you're going to find a limo."
Miki sighed, pulling out her brush. "Well, I didn't want to be impolite. I guess I'll just have to paint us a way there, though."
Maya gestured at the barren landscape all around them, fog and rocks and cold grey grass. "On what wall? We lost the elevator ten minutes ago!"
Miki didn't bat an eye. "The wall right behind you."
Maya stared at Miki in disbelief for a moment before spinning around.
Nothing. Just the empty moor.
"No, I said behind you."
Maya whirled back around, anger at the tip of her tongue... and there, behind Miki, was a meter-high wall, extending off into the fog in both directions. A large gap in the wall's once-white plaster revealed aging, weathered brick and mortar beneath; rain-tracks led downward from it in rust-red lightning. Lesenes, about five meters apart, dotted the wall in either direction, ovoid white finials capping them as though they were functional pillars. She felt her mouth moving, but no sound came out.
Miki turned to face the wall she couldn't have seen, and that Maya couldn't have missed before she turned around the first time, and tested the surface with a bit of blue paint. "Give me just a couple of minutes; this shouldn't take long."
(Alternatively, Miki and Maya can find an old country road, write the word "REALITY" on a piece of cardboard, and hold it up while sticking their thumbs out.)
Though I'm not sure why we still haven't done anything about the visibility issue the fog is creating... surely Miki is no less capable then Teddie in resolving an issue like that... possibly quite quickly...
Actually the absence of them is highly suspicious, but that just means that wherever in the CU we are currently doesn't have a power strong enough to support shadows to that kind of degree
Ah, no. What I meant was: If you complete her current motivation, you'd qualify for an essence upgrade. Assuming you do so in the obvious manner, i.e. winning the vortex world.
She didn't complete the one currently marked in her character sheet, so she doesn't. (And that one's still a motivation, it just isn't the motivation.)
Actually the absence of them is highly suspicious, but that just means that wherever in the CU we are currently doesn't have a power strong enough to support shadows to that kind of degree
When you think about it, the CU locations shown in the Persona games were self-selected for having someone strong enough to reach out and touch reality.
I'm not sure that repeatedly emphasising that the chara are independent, discrete entities is a good idea, as it's likely to make it true, and lose lots of what makes them special and useful.
Them being different expressions of the same core soul and identity seems a better metaphor than them being siblings. When it comes down to it, they're all branches from the same trunk, not separate trees.
I'm not sure that repeatedly emphasising that the chara are independent, discrete entities is a good idea, as it's likely to make it true, and lose lots of what makes them special and useful.
Them being different expressions of the same core soul and identity seems a better metaphor than them being siblings. When it comes down to it, they're all branches from the same trunk, not separate trees.
On the other hand, siblings are special in a different way. Even if they're far more common.
And until someone talks to Amu in-character and convinces the hell out of her, she's stuck on the sibling idea with all the stubbornness a ten year old who has gained their mother's blessing can muster.
I'm not sure that repeatedly emphasising that the chara are independent, discrete entities is a good idea, as it's likely to make it true, and lose lots of what makes them special and useful.
Them being different expressions of the same core soul and identity seems a better metaphor than them being siblings. When it comes down to it, they're all branches from the same trunk, not separate trees.
Have you forgotten the fight the charas had? Changes are already happening to all the charas in the "baseline reality".
They're going through chara puberty, something that was never meant to happen~ Or maybe Philemon planned for all this. Maybe we can ask Igor about it, he's a servant of Philemon right?
Nah, that's because you've got a fundamental misunderstanding of how mind over matter works over there
It still is, quite literally, baseline reality. Just with extra stuff tacked on. The only reason Amu is "malleable" as you put it, is due to the direct intervention of outside parties. Philemon, Lucifer, Nyarlothotep, and even Exa-kun. Three of those are universal in scope at the very least, with two being intimately connected to humanity on a level of outright...parasitism, perhaps? They exist because humanity does.
Anyway.
What makes Chara "unique" for our purposes as you put it, is a structural issue. Which won't change at their baseline nature so long as they continue to exist
The problem, however, seems to come from their normal limitations as Chara coming into play, resulting in their non-existence.
That risk is very much real at some point, unfortunately.
Have you forgotten the fight the charas had? Changes are already happening to all the charas in the "baseline reality".
They're going through chara puberty, something that was never meant to happen~ Or maybe Philemon planned for all this. Maybe we can ask Igor about it, he's a servant of Philemon right?
No, Im saying it's irrelevant for those purposes. They're changing in ways they shouldn't, becoming more than they are...
But it's more like they're becoming the Chara equivalent of Teddy than stopping being Chara, and thus connected to Amu, so it's not really a problem
Also Igor is only beholden to lend services to visitors to the Velvet Room, which is a very limited number even among Persona Users. It's 50/50 odds at best, imo
Well. Even if mere thoughts can't cause a fundamental change directly, if both Amu and the charas want to be independent and completely separate, there's not much stopping them. Exa-kun could and would make their wishes reality sooner or later.
Assuming fungus-chan doesn't make it happen first. Whatever that thing is.
Well. Even if mere thoughts can't cause a fundamental change directly, if both Amu and the charas want to be independent and completely separate, there's not much stopping them. Exa-kun could and would make their wishes reality sooner or later.
Assuming fungus-chan doesn't make it happen first. Whatever that thing is.
Since we didn't exactly get a Velvet Key.
