Also annoyed at the gullibility at the Dahau, like really? You actually believe the prince of a nation that not only conquered your homelands, but also allows for the oppression of the darcsen's?
In fairness, Maximilian genuinely doesn't really care about Anti-Darcsen prejudice one way or another. He only cares about power and advantages he can get, and he is willing to both use and ignore that kind of prejudice as he sees fit to get those.
He was perfectly fine with marrying Cordelia in the Game even after she revealed her Darcsen Heritage to him, because all he cared about was legitimizing his Rule over Gallia. That she was Darcsen didn't matter at all, compared to the fact that she was the rightful Ruler.

So that's another reason why the Ravens are willing to trust his word, even beyond the fact that from their perspective, they don't really have a choice.
 
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Tch. Not a ideal outcome but not a terrible one either.

We didn't manage to take them down unfortunately, but even with the crit fail it is perfectly within our abilities to make them a solved problem.

Even if we lost the fight we hurt them a decent bit, and more importantly know where they are.

We can crush them without fail if we decide to do so.
Though it is a little annoying we've already locked a power action, but we can deal with this well enough anyway.


Edit: Even if it weakens the base raid, taking the Ravens down would nix three actions for the Empire. So it's worthwhile all on it's own.

...Actually. What does everyone think of delaying the raid one turn?

If we actually manage to get Selvaria and focus the Ravens down it should weaken the Empire a whole lot on it's own, and disarm their plan entirely.

It even would help the raid given the possible disaster that the Ravens arriving to reinforce would be, and free up our trickery action for other things.

Edit 2: ...Interesting that the rank and file Ravens don't have a combat bonus.
 
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It even would help the raid given the possible disaster that the Ravens arriving to reinforce would be, and free up our trickery action for other things.
Can confirm that Calamity Raven cvould not be able to interrupt the raid, maybe another expansion yeah, but no way for them to arrive inmediately to the raid, they don't have an starline to assist them to move fast.


Edit 2: ...Interesting that the rank and file Ravens don't have a combat bonus.

Ehhh. that's more me deciding to only add the hero's bonuses and not their troops, I did not expect calamity raven to escaoe from this truth be told, i thought they were goners, but freacking nat 1 out of nowhere said otherwise.
 
Hey guys on the discord the QM's have revealed that we have a power action to immediately deal with the calamity ravens seeing that they're going to try to hide on turn 10 that means we know where exactly they are… We're thinking instead of doing a pincer attack with the bumbling minions.


We send the bumbling minions to deal with them with the darc robot the qms our allowing us to give the robot to them and differ has done the math 26(Eggman)+35(Darc Egg Robot)+128(4x Ring Fire Breaths)+10(2x Egg Pawns)=+199

The difference is that we have a higher bonus to deal with calamity ravens the difference is a +89…. So yeah, unless somehow the dice gods themselves intervene… the calamity ravens are goners.


And also, we're probably gonna do a different heart action scene that we won't have enough for the Ferris wheel… probably gonna promote honey shop again
 
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Can confirm that Calamity Raven cvould not be able to interrupt the raid, maybe another expansion yeah, but no way for them to arrive inmediately to the raid, they don't have an starline to assist them to move fast.

Ehhh. that's more me deciding to only add the hero's bonuses and not their troops, I did not expect calamity raven to escaoe from this truth be told, i thought they were goners, but freacking nat 1 out of nowhere said otherwise.

Good to know. Glad to hear Starline is so useful.

Hmm...noted. Rather unfortunate they escaped but we make it a sure thing (or as close to it as possible) next time. Bringing them down is definitely worth shifting things around some, especially since it seems like the whole crew is here.


We send the bumbling minions to deal with them with the darc robot the qms our allowing us to give the robot to them and differ has done the math 26(Eggman)+35(Darc Egg Robot)+128(4x Ring Fire Breaths)+10(2x Egg Pawns)=+199

The difference is that we have a higher bonus to deal with calamity ravens the difference is a +89…. So yeah, unless somehow the dice gods themselves intervene… the calamity ravens are goners.

Might be worth putting some Kalgens on that or swapping them out with Isara, though it's just an idea.

We should be able to put the bumbling minions on the base raid after all, and with the mech they'd have a solid bonus.

Damn in retrospect it's to bad we didn't have metal on this. Woulda prevented the crit fail

Wouldn't have worked I'm afraid. We had Rogue on the infiltration (which turned out to be very important) so the only person we could put on this was Sage.
 
Good to know. Glad to hear Starline is so useful.

Hmm...noted. Rather unfortunate they escaped but we make it a sure thing (or as close to it as possible) next time. Bringing them down is definitely worth shifting things around some, especially since it seems like the whole crew is here.




Might be worth putting some Kalgens on that or swapping them out with Isara, though it's just an idea.

We should be able to put the bumbling minions on the base raid after all, and with the mech they'd have a solid bonus.
yeah, the QMS don't count the bumbling minions as heroes… so we have to assign a hero…plus the bumbling minions are free action for logistics, power, and heart… we're using both power actions for the Collab with the Rudy's… and the base raid… we would have to talk about swapping some flamers out for ravens… we only have like 7 klagens
 
Damn in retrospect it's to bad we didn't have metal on this. Woulda prevented the crit fail

Wasn't an option. Rusty only got to show up because she rolled high enough on patrolling the perimeter.


Might be worth putting some Kalgens on that or swapping them out with Isara, though it's just an idea.

We should be able to put the bumbling minions on the base raid after all, and with the mech they'd have a solid bonus.

We cannot use bumbling minions for a raid.

Ergo, Isara needs to stay put to participate in the raid given her drives.

...Actually. What does everyone think of delaying the raid one turn?

If we actually manage to get Selvaria and focus the Ravens down it should weaken the Empire a whole lot on it's own, and disarm their plan entirely.

As stated by Kingster, the Ravens can't interfere with the raid, but Selvaria doesn't affect it either.

As such, without something to indicate that the raid suddenly had a game changer in the mix, I advocate to continue on for the raid.
 
We cannot use bumbling minions for a raid.

Ergo, Isara needs to stay put to participate in the raid given her drives.

I stand corrected, but I do feel like Isara would be interested in the Ravens.

...Though that's irrelevant if she can't go anyway.

As stated by Kingster, the Ravens can't interfere with the raid, but Selvaria doesn't affect it either.

As such, without something to indicate that the raid suddenly had a game changer in the mix, I advocate to continue on for the raid.

Glad they can't interefere, I just...I'm considering delaying the raid so we won't have to split our attention between the Ravens and the the raid.

Which would in turn make the Raid easier, since we can draw them out and weaken them more. It's important enough to rig things as much as we can...especially given we don't know what awaits us there.

OK, I asked the QMS. We will have a choice whether or not to capture the calamity ravens or kill them…. We don't need the klagens then for capture

Oh that makes things much easier then. We just need to dedicate some forces to them then.
 
Glad they can't interefere, I just...I'm considering delaying the raid so we won't have to split our attention between the Ravens and the the raid.

Which would in turn make the Raid easier, since we can draw them out and weaken them more. It's important enough to rig things as much as we can...especially given we don't know what awaits us there.

Also giving Max another turn to send more troops to the GH encampment, plus whatever other preparations he'll do in the immediate response to losing Selvaria and Eggman no longer being a solved problem in his books.
 
......You know, I kinda wondering about Borgia's situation.

Ravens (and especially Lydia) were loyal to HIM above the Empire. It was him, not Max, thatbpromised Dahau and Ravens the Darcsen free nation.
And if we lean over the Rouge part we got previously, it seems that Empire knows about 'Hammer of the Valkyrur' already....

.....Which was something that Borgia did his utmost best to keep the tight lid on.

Ergo, the only conclusion we can take from this, it that priestman isn't doing so hot, and that Maximilian squeezed his secrets from him.

Could it be that Ravens loyalties are more shaky then it seems? Especially - ironically enough - Lydia's? I say we capture them to find out.
 
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Guys we actually have a chance to obtain the echidna from the calamity Raven, which is a very prototype tank made by the empire… something that would be very useful to give to our apprentice to mess with… so instead of sending fire breaths, we in discord think about send cluckiods and cattkiller to deal with the calamity Raven

Here's the math made by differ

26(Eggman)+35(Darc Egg Robot)+38(2x Ring Cluckoids)+45(3x Cluckoids)+45(9x Egg Pawns)+10(2x Caterkillers)=199


We still keep the same bonus to fight against the calamity Raven but we get to keep the echidna.. because if we use the flame breaths, they cannot will explode so meaning we can still keep in one piece so we can mess around with experimental prototype, empire technology…A tank which is Isara bread and butter


Your thoughts?

Differ also changed the Arsenal pyramid plan to this

[] Through the Fire and the Eggs

-[] 13x Ring Fire Breaths - 260 metal and 65 Rings

-[] 2x Ring Cluckoids - 16 metal and 4 Rings


Total - 276 metal and 69 Rings.

We would have leftover metal which is 64 saving us some ring and metal
 
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Guys we actually have a chance to obtain the echidna from the calamity Raven, which is a very prototype tank made by the empire… something that would be very useful to give to our apprentice to mess with… so instead of sending fire breaths, we in discord think about send cluckiods and cattkiller to deal with the calamity Raven

Wait really? We can get the tank as long as we don't blow it up?

Oh yeah we should totally do that.

...Though it does make me want to delay more so Isara can use it in the base raid.
 
I'd rather not the tiny tank is still good… remember Max is going to try the counter our flame breath… we still have the element of surprise for one more turn… I don't wanna lose it

It is yes, but the Echina is better and likely a lot less fragile. ...Any chance we can upgrade Isara's tank before the battle?

I don't think he can counter it that easily or that quickly. Though I do agnowledge he might make other preperations...course it's not like he's expecting a base raid either.
 
It is yes, but the Echina is better and likely a lot less fragile. ...Any chance we can upgrade Isara's tank before the battle?

I don't think he can counter it that easily or that quickly. Though I do agnowledge he might make other preperations...course it's not like he's expecting a base raid either.
True and maybe? But we have actually a pretty good chance we're sending metal, pistoal and Isra…pistoal can heal the tiny tank due her magic healing ships which are in organic… so yeah, we definitely have a chance
 
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