Scientia Weaponizes The Future

Oof. That could turn out very badly for Lisa, depending on how Prometheus takes "make sure she doesn't talk to anyone about me." The best way to ensure that is to ensure she can't talk to anyone about anything, ever again.
Fortunately Prometheus is capable of semantically understanding the totality of the order. The stated goal was prefaced with 'keep an eye on' not 'eliminate'. If she were to try to tell someone on the phone or by computer or what have you he would cut the connection and inform our protagonist. He'll also listen in on her in person conversations.
 
So motes in 'espionage' and 'meditation' when?

Gotta go full badass now that people might try and "recruit" you and it might let you get another mote in martial arts
 
Gotta go full badass now that people might try and "recruit" you and it might let you get another mote in martial arts
She's already at 100% of all the martial arts humankind has ever, or will ever, devise. She's probably even well-versed in such that she can't physically do, such as those from alien species whose body plans humans simply can't emulate. (All the better to counter them.)

She ain't gettin' more o' that.
 
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She's already at 100% of all the martial arts humankind has ever, or will ever, devise. She's probably even well-versed in such that she can't physically do, such as those from alien species whose body plans humans simply can't emulate. (All the better to counter them.)

She ain't gettin' more o' that.
She has absolutely no alien martial arts, which is perhaps a small clue for people who want to speculate.

Although she does have martial arts that rely on a human frame with various superhuman capabilities. Cyborg/artificial body martial arts, essentially.
 
She's already at 100% of all the martial arts humankind has ever, or will ever, devise. She's probably even well-versed in such that she can't physically do, such as those from alien species whose body plans humans simply can't emulate. (All the better to counter them.)

She ain't gettin' more o' that.
My thoughts were meditation might allow some crazy stuff that is on the bleeding edge of martial arts so she could utilize it better or allow her to reach a higher threshold of understanding thus even greater skill

Kinda how her medical and physics knowledge allows her to be even scarier with firearms and martial arts
 
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She has absolutely no alien martial arts, which is perhaps a small clue for people who want to speculate.

Although she does have martial arts that rely on a human frame with various superhuman capabilities. Cyborg/artificial body martial arts, essentially.
Biological reconstruction is a thing, so I'd imagine that someone with an altered body shape might have come up with something based on an alien form. Plus, y'know, a lot of the Case 53s, Changers, etc are likely based on aliens, so...

My thoughts were meditation might allow some crazy stuff that is on the bleeding edge of martial arts so she could utilize it better or allow her to reach a higher threshold of understanding thus even greater skill

Kinda how her medical and physics knowledge allows her to be even scarier with firearms and martial arts
That would be her doing more with what she has, not having more to do it with.
 
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Huh... Worm very clearly has aliens, and F.T.L. macrotransition, so zero aliens means either zero aliens, or that it happened immediately upon discovering aliens, or that even indirect influence of aliens is excluded. The last is bizarre. The middle would require specifics on the aliens, which seems absent from Worm, unless it is the big giant worms themselves, which would have the power but not the motive, and presumably would create something comparable with a parahuman. An actual civilisation would likely have the means to do more than displace one consciousness, would use their own, volunteers/professionals, with training and planning, and there would be more than one with preplanned coordination so that they would actually have some access to an isolated resource base, and would almost certainly be doing this somewhere with less oversight, seeing as their technical knowledge should overshadow the lack of external resources, likely on Aleph with the assumption that they can break through once they have studied the breach and there are far fewer parahumans to out-of-context them. All I am really seeing here is some sore of noosphere/spirit of humanity/Gaia/whatever interrupt; a wormhole plunging straight through the distant future of one of the few surviving humanities that went completely isolationist after discovering that the rest of their alternates had very final first contacts, on through the O.C., terminating at Taylor for a hostile takeover, and all this via Queen Administrator to convert it from random noise into a coherent personality with a coherent power; or big giant space worm shenanigans.

I guess that my main stalling point is that I can't see how the O.C. is relevant to anything that can pull this off.
 
I guess that my main stalling point is that I can't see how the O.C. is relevant to anything that can pull this off.
That is an excellent question, isn't it?

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I feel bad leaving it there, so I will say that the answer to that question might be the closest thing to a completely original idea in Scientia. I haven't ever seen it used as a plot device in any other fiction, at least, and that's fairly hard to do.
 
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That's not where she's getting her knowledgebase from, but your point does make sense - are there martial arts for unusual bodyplans to go with the prosthetics I know someone would have invented to have more limbs with, in this data dump?
Strictly human body shapes only, two arms, two legs, joints bend in the right directions, etc, although some of it relies on clearly augmented levels of durability, strength, or reflexes. Or assumes the same in an opponent.

Perhaps the non-standard body plans are in another charge area, or wherever the information comes from wasn't big on non-standard body plans.
 
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Strictly human body shapes only, two arms, two legs, joints bend in the right directions, etc, although some of it relies on clearly augmented levels of durability, strength, or reflexes. Or assumes the same in an opponent.

Perhaps the non-standard body plans are in another dataset, or wherever the information comes from wasn't big on non-standard body plans.
How normative-centric of it. :mad:

:p
 
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Like she mentioned, there's a good chance Coil didn't bother running a split timeline for this based on what he might know. Even though he can split things and tends to play it safe, he only has 2 timelines so they're kind of a valuable commodity. If he were to dedicate his timelines on helping a new hire get revenge on a (to his knowledge ordinary) teenager then he wouldn't be able to do much else for the duration, aside from routine work.

Except Coil probably knows Taylor killed Victor, and, regardless I he knew that or not, he already knew she was skilled enough at fighting to easily beat Sophia. If he was running any major project he probably would make use of the undersiders somehow - or at least of Lisa. Or maybe not. We will see next chapter.
 
Her only limitations are the inherent inaccuracy of the gun and the slightest quiver of a limb that even perfect skill can't totally eliminate. That makes her almost as accurate as a gun clamped in a vise sighted in perfectly on a target.
Four charges in guns should get her couple of hundred of years past our time. Sport/recreational shooters of future may have some mind hack methods of decreasing quiver which are not exactly "skill", some kind of induced reverse phase quiver or something.
 
Four charges in guns should get her couple of hundred of years past our time. Sport/recreational shooters of future may have some mind hack methods of decreasing quiver which are not exactly "skill", some kind of induced reverse phase quiver or something.
To the best of my knowledge, muscles in use have a certain amount of unavoidable quiver to them that's not under voluntary control as individual fibers relax and tense. (Blood moving around probably doesn't help either.) I'm not sure any mental technique could fix that without augmented biology.
 
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To the best of my knowledge, muscles in use have a certain amount of unavoidable quiver to them that's not under voluntary control as individual fibers relax and tense. (Blood moving around probably doesn't help either.) I'm not sure any mental technique could fix that without augmented biology.
What I mean is not voluntary control. If muscle quiver is not mostly random (I don't actually know if it is or not) it should have dominant frequency and phase. If they are estimated somehow it's looks plausible the amplitude could be affected with some actions - pressure at some points, micro-strike etc. Repurpose part of the brain specifically for that type of activity.
 
Strictly human body shapes only, two arms, two legs, joints bend in the right directions, etc, although some of it relies on clearly augmented levels of durability, strength, or reflexes. Or assumes the same in an opponent.

Perhaps the non-standard body plans are in another charge area, or wherever the information comes from wasn't big on non-standard body plans.
Hah, Taylor does get some Brute-fighting skills! ...But actually, follow-up question, are there plans for, like - "How To Give A Human A Tail" in the medical databanks? This is getting interesting...
 
Hah, Taylor does get some Brute-fighting skills! ...But actually, follow-up question, are there plans for, like - "How To Give A Human A Tail" in the medical databanks? This is getting interesting...
There are limits to what can be done without having an enhanced physique as well, and nothing is going to win you a wrestling match with Alexandria, but yes, there is some wiggle room on the margins for stuff like employing leverage to overcome low level enhanced strength, or anticipating movements to compensate to a degree for enhanced speed, or going for vulnerable points to compensate somewhat for enhanced durability. (Brutes hate this one weird trick...)

She could make non-standard bodies or make modifications with some work. She has the fundamental knowledge necessary to make it possible, although there are a /lot/ of knock-on effects to consider with any alteration that make it complicated business. You need to think about places to anchor muscles, how the extra weight is going to be supported, etc etc. Every necessary change often necessitates more changes to support it. And even if you get through all that, psychology suggests there would be serious body dysphoria issues.
 
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Except Coil probably knows Taylor killed Victor, and, regardless I he knew that or not, he already knew she was skilled enough at fighting to easily beat Sophia. If he was running any major project he probably would make use of the undersiders somehow - or at least of Lisa. Or maybe not. We will see next chapter.

Coil explicitly doesn't know, since Prometheus corrupted that footage so he couldn't view it.

Besting a school bully really isn't that impressive in the grand scheme of things, even if said bully is a teenage cape.

The Undersiders are overkill for this mission. No timeline shenanigans required.
 
There are limits to what can be done without having an enhanced physique as well, and nothing is going to win you a wrestling match with Alexandria, but yes, there is some wiggle room on the margins for stuff like employing leverage to overcome low level enhanced strength, or anticipating movements to compensate to a degree for enhanced speed, or going for vulnerable points to compensate somewhat for enhanced durability. (Brutes hate this one weird trick...)

She could make non-standard bodies or make modifications with some work. She has the fundamental knowledge necessary to make it possible, although there are a /lot/ of knock-on effects to consider with any alteration that make it complicated business. You need to think about places to anchor muscles, how the extra weight is going to be supported, etc etc. Every necessary change often necessitates more changes to support it. And even if you get through all that, psychology suggests there would be serious body dysphoria issues.
This reminds me of something.
In the grrlpower comic there is a bit where Dabbler, an alien demon succubus explains why the 'human'oid form is so common. Something about being just advantageous enough to sit near the top of the food chain but low enough we still gotta struggle to make up for our deficiencies. To well evolved and you end up like the shark. To perfect for your environment to make it. Too lacking and you die off. While you could theoretically evolve a perfect form that has all the options for every environment and situations with heighten intelligence to still do science make it off your planet, the more to your biology the more food you need to consume to power and run it all.
 
She could make non-standard bodies or make modifications with some work. She has the fundamental knowledge necessary to make it possible, although there are a /lot/ of knock-on effects to consider with any alteration that make it complicated business. You need to think about places to anchor muscles, how the extra weight is going to be supported, etc etc. Every necessary change often necessitates more changes to support it. And even if you get through all that, psychology suggests there would be serious body dysphoria issues.


This knowledge plus Amy equals awesomeness.

The only stories that really explore or even make good use of Amy's power seem to be ones where she is the protagonist. Those same stories also tend to make her power able to make arbitrary and over powered changes, such as massive genetic changes that go beyond biokinesis + comprehension into instant tinker territory.

She is not a biotinker, yet It's pretty rare to see her power utilized in way that doesn't make it out to be one.

I'll admit she has one of my favorite powers and I enjoy stories where she collaborates with tinkers so I'm definitely hoping they make use of her power while helping her heal and grow.
 
Love the last chapter @TaliesinSkye. Reminds me of those punks who tried to rob an septuagenarian and got broken bones and ruptured spleen. Turns out the geezer was an veteran commando of WW2 with decades of combat service. He'd been on his way to the local Legion for a pint with the survivors of his unit. I remember rolling on the couch laughing and nearly passing out from lack of air when I saw the news
 
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This reminds me of something.
In the grrlpower comic there is a bit where Dabbler, an alien demon succubus explains why the 'human'oid form is so common. Something about being just advantageous enough to sit near the top of the food chain but low enough we still gotta struggle to make up for our deficiencies. To well evolved and you end up like the shark. To perfect for your environment to make it. Too lacking and you die off. While you could theoretically evolve a perfect form that has all the options for every environment and situations with heighten intelligence to still do science make it off your planet, the more to your biology the more food you need to consume to power and run it all.
There are absolutely a lot of factors to balance, yeah. Also the psychological implications and the influence culture has.

If you stick with biology, then a system that looks human but is internally very robust and capable of a degree of adaptation to circumstances (increase bone density and musculature in response to high G environments, say, or optimize lung capacity and oxygen transport to deal with a low oxygen atmosphere, do vitamin synthesis to compensate for a poor diet, that sort of thing) is probably a good compromise.

This knowledge plus Amy equals awesomeness.

The only stories that really explore or even make good use of Amy's power seem to be ones where she is the protagonist. Those same stories also tend to make her power able to make arbitrary and over powered changes, such as massive genetic changes that go beyond biokinesis + comprehension into instant tinker territory.

She is not a biotinker, yet It's pretty rare to see her power utilized in way that doesn't make it out to be one.

I'll admit she has one of my favorite powers and I enjoy stories where she collaborates with tinkers so I'm definitely hoping they make use of her power while helping her heal and grow.
Making major changes to humans is a fraught prospect, but there is a ton of room for giving Amy ideas for how to make useful alterations to other life forms. 'Here's a tomato that cures infections with super antibiotics', etc.

There's a very strong argument to be made that Amy can save and improve far more lives that way than she can by manually healing.
 
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I always wanted to see a story where the protag is an OC (perhaps a self-insert, perhaps not) and ends up trapped in a collapsed building with Amy. Amy is injured and trapped under rubble, and she has to augment the OC to become superhumanly strong to save her. And then they collaborate as a secret team with her finding new ways to alter his anatomy via animal abilities (which get truly insane, messing with chemistry and physics in really weird ways) so he can be her biological WMD.

Of course, there'd be more to it, but that's the gist of the idea.
 
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She has absolutely no alien martial arts, which is perhaps a small clue for people who want to speculate.

Although she does have martial arts that rely on a human frame with various superhuman capabilities. Cyborg/artificial body martial arts, essentially.

So, for that speculation, we have a sidereal day based refresh, and an advanced but human, or near human only tech base.

The entities do some dimensional shenanigans to wall off their chosen development sandbox, and targeted Bet specifically because of its non threatening tech base. If there were an alternate earth that was advanced enough to be threatening, it could maybe send a relay out past the dimensional shroud, then beam information back in.

Using the voyager probe as a reference, something launched around when the entities land in the 80s or late 70s would be crossing the bow shock of the sun's magnetosphere, a good arbitrary point for the dimensional shroud cutoff, around 2011 when Taylor triggers.

You could have an entire civilization frantically building up a database of information to beam in with their agent, but limiting it so as not to melt said agent's brain.

Alternatively, maybe it's not a relay, maybe it's just the remnants of an advanced human civilization that barely escaped destruction when the entities landed, beaming in info from beyond the barrier.
 
Besting a school bully really isn't that impressive in the grand scheme of things, even if said bully is a teenage cape.
She was a school bully when the fight started. Once the powers came out? She was someone who has extensive experience of getting into fights with armed, adult, and physically violent criminals. Taylor was not supposed to know about her powers or experience of fighting people with probably lethal intent, so that should have been enough of a surprise to count as an ambush. From ambush, Shadow Stalker was able to fight off Emma's attackers, which, well, do you have the slightest idea how much Emma could have sued them for if they had been identified and successfully disfigured her?

Sophia Hess: school bully, can be beaten up by someone without too much eyebrow raising. Shadow Stalker, the kid who has been fighting organised crime for years, most of that with no support at all, is rather terrifying.
 
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