Scientia Weaponizes The Future

a forced personality modification takes away a person's self control, this is the body horror point of it. if you cannot grasp that let me put it to you this way.

Think of your favorite food, Doctors have as some point decided that the food most people eat is unhealthy either in the type, or the amount, so they forcibly modify your personality so that you don't want to eat that food anymore, or certain foods as much. How much control over your own body do you feel like you have then?
 
facepalms,
you asking for the help is one thing, i specifically mentioned it being forced upon you, you don't get the choice, your government basically says "You will do this, or we will do it to you, its for your own good."
 
Maybe I didn't follow this discussion closely enough - but if you could do an effective personality modification - when/why would it be better to kill them than to perform a modification?
well, If a person had done truly horrible things, and you changed them to see the horror -would leaving them alive with the recognition of that horror be a suitable punishment?
Perhaps allowing them to perform some kind of penance, driven by their memories and that horror?
Or would it be better to simply kill them and put them out of their (and our) misery?

I'll use a serial killer for this example, and won't go into the morality of mind control itself here. If you change that person to no longer want to kill people, you have essentially destroyed their old personality and replaced them with a new, good person. A person who has memories of doing horrible things that they now find repulsive. At that point they'd need therapy, not punishment IMO. Punishing them would just be needlessly cruel
 
It's interesting to me that the OC hasn't figured out for herself that, in a very real way, she *is* Taylor, and has been all along.

Although the experience of having another life probably obscures that.
 
It's interesting to me that the OC hasn't figured out for herself that, in a very real way, she *is* Taylor, and has been all along.

Although the experience of having another life probably obscures that.
Identity is a really difficult problem. What makes a person them? Is it their memories, their body, their personality, their brain, something else?

Our real world level of technology is such that we don't often need to ask questions like that in detail, although we sometimes see hints of it in tragic cases where someone experiences a severe brain injury and loses memory or has a sudden dramatic personality change. As technology evolves I suspect we'll encounter these questions more and have to better define just what makes a person them.
 
Identity is a really difficult problem. What makes a person them? Is it their memories, their body, their personality, their brain, something else?

Our real world level of technology is such that we don't often need to ask questions like that in detail, although we sometimes see hints of it in tragic cases where someone experiences a severe brain injury and loses memory or has a sudden dramatic personality change. As technology evolves I suspect we'll encounter these questions more and have to better define just what makes a person them.
And of course people into certain kinds of futurism and/or SF (and probably some fantasy for that matter) have been playing with the questions and answers for years.
 
10:03 P.M. EST, Sunday, February 13th, 2011
Brockton Bay
The Docks

Excalibur flashed and disabled the ugly turret on Squealer's monstrosity of an armored personnel carrier, which appeared to be made out of what looked like three different pickup trucks and haphazardly attached steel plates. The APC's cloak failed under me, coming fully into the visible spectrum even without my helmet translating into visible wavelengths for me. The cloaking effect did not carry the signs of any technology my sensors recognized. It was either completely novel, or it was the result of Squealer's power imitating the effect of some stolen technology instead of an actual active camouflage system like the one I used.

I jumped off the abomination's roof, my own camouflage still keeping me nearly invisible in the dark. Another sweep of Excalibur on my way down took out two of the APC's three wheels on the driver's side, and the hulking vehicle nearly rolled over before the driver counter‐steered in a practically miraculous display of driving.

I sprinted to catch up until I was next to the driver's side window. It was a thick sheet of polycarbonate, enough to stop most bullets. On the other side of the window Squealer was furiously doing something with controls on the dash. In the passenger seat Skidmark was screaming something no doubt obscene, spit flying through his rotting teeth.

With all the strength of my war body and the power armor over it, I plunged my fist into the armored window. It went plastic under the force and buckled, pulling out of its anchors on three sides and exposing the inside of the cabin.

Squealer barely had enough time to scream before I put a knockout flechette into her and Skidmark. There was considerable screaming after, too, as I forced the door open and dragged her out and away from the controls she needed to remain a threat.

Then I had to turn to protect her with my body as Skidmark tried to use his power to send the warped sheet of polycarbonate and a set of wrenches that must have been in the cab. The wrenches packed enough kinetic energy that I had to brace to avoid being sent tumbling onto Squealer.

She fell unconscious first, followed a few moments later by Skidmark as he was searching with drooping limbs for something else to push through his colored acceleration field at me.

I laid Squealer out on the sidewalk and put Skidmark next to her. Just in case Squealer's abomination decided to spontaneously explode from the damage I'd inflicted, it seemed best that they were some distance away.

Scientia > Skidmark and Squealer won't be making the party. Prometheus, please tell the PRT where they can pick them up.

Prometheus > Command acknowledged, Miss.

Mouse Protector > My turn?

Scientia > Give it about forty seconds for me to get close, I'm just a few blocks away, then you can go.

Mouse Protector > Save some of the fun for me.

Scientia > I will.

Dragon > Armsmaster says his teams are in position.


Making a soaring leap onto the top of a closed laundromat with barred windows, I sprinted across the flat roof to reach the next street with an anticipatory grin on my face.

I might not know what the hell to make of my life, and I might miss a whole lot of people terribly - I still thought of them that way - but at least right this moment I had something that needed doing to take satisfaction in.

Scientia > Good. I'm nearly there.



Oof. The next chapter is coming along at 2.5k, but it's been slow going because all my free time has been going towards exam study or mindlessly recovering from work and exam study. I'm afraid I'm stressed out and need a skip cycle. I'll unthreadmark this when the complete chapter goes up in two weeks.

The good news is that my exam is scheduled now. The stress will probably be over after May 9th, unless I fail the thing and need to retake it, which is certainly possible. The pass rate on the thing is pretty terrifying.

Thank you, beloved reader, for understanding and being patient with me.
 
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@TaliesinSkye - Go forth and conquer that exam.
Dare I ask what MP is going to get up in the next chapter?
If you have three civilians in a room full of villains that you want to evacuate without any of the villains noticing, who else would you call upon for amousing feats of heroic cheese-snatching ninja prowess?

Seriously though, super agility plus teleportation plus Scientia's tech make Mouse Protector scary good at stealth stuff.

And thank you and @Wentley for the well wishes. I hope things go well, but I'll get this thing eventually one way or another even if it doesn't.
 
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you want to evacuate without any of the villains noticing
Just based on powers? The Undersiders, maybe Mama Mathers and Valefor (their temperament and likelihood to be abducting those civilians for their own nefarious purposes aside), or maybe Strider if you're okay with them knowing that someone was there to get you out.
amousing feats of heroic cheese-snatching ninja prowess?
Tom and Jerry, maybe Uber and Leet if the theme was, like, Mousetrap? /j
 
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Wishing you the best with your upcoming exam.

I've taken some of the pressure off, I've got a couple of peeps to handle line editing for me I'll use in rotation. :)
 
Hey guys, author here. I've gotten about 1.2k written in the last two weeks despite a fair amount of effort. Normally I could get that many words out in an hour or two.

I think stress over exam prep is really getting to me. I've got a reasonable outline of next steps, and I do want to continue writing Scientia, but I'm struggling to make the words come out right now.

I think the reasonable thing to do is to take a hiatus until after my exam work is done. Hopefully that will be mid-May, but if I need to put off or retake the exam it's possible things could extend longer.

I'm sorry about the necessity, but it's clear to me that I need to do this. I'm being pulled in too many directions at the moment. I'm going to do my best to stay in the habit of putting at least a few words on paper regularly. That's important to ensuring that a hiatus doesn't become permanent. And it's important for me, too; I love this story, and I will see it finished, come hell or high water.

Thank you all for your understanding and support. And for your commentary and thoughts and engagement. I cannot tell you all how much that means to me.
 
Take all the time you need, as much as I'm really enjoying this story of yours, exams are Real Life and thus far more important. Best of luck with them and I look forward to reading more of this story towards the end of May.
 
Hey, seriously, don't let us get in the way of your happiness. Like you said, Scientia is something that's supposed to be fun for you, so if you need to take a break to focus on something else, then do so. And if anybody is pressuring you into continuing anyway? Ignore them. You come first, here.
 
1. Take care of yourself and good luck with your exam.
2. I would like to point out, that the proportion of fanfiction writers that announce a short hiatus and a never heard from again is quite high. (I guess because writing is a habit). Therefore please consider dumping your outline here, if you don't get back into writing.
 
Damn, no worries here. Good luck, and good studies for the exam. I'm looking forward to you kicking its ass and recovering enough to feel like writing again, though!
 
1. Take care of yourself and good luck with your exam.
2. I would like to point out, that the proportion of fanfiction writers that announce a short hiatus and a never heard from again is quite high. (I guess because writing is a habit). Therefore please consider dumping your outline here, if you don't get back into writing.
Thank you.

I'm not going to post an outline at this time; it fluctuates a lot as I go and have ideas or second thoughts, and it's super spoilery. If a year from now or something I still haven't resumed I'll revisit the idea then. I can go over my intended plot and answer any questions the thread has.
 
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