You're also pretty sure every other shard and :Mother: would yell at you if you converted the planet into something capable of wearing hats.
...Is that all? Totally doing it.



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You don't think so; the "hat" would instead be standing on them. Maybe if you made something like a really large, semi-flat plate?
Hm, yes. I mean, really, at that point it's just a matter of making a properly-shaped friend.

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THE ABOMINABLE MULTI-FEDORA!
 
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Given the question of size this brings up, can we wear a hat? Like, our actual shard body? And use it as a link to Host in order to boost her further? We're definitely her Friend!

You don't think so. If you were unrestricted, you could probably give yourself a hat and corresponding abilities. You wouldn't even need the hat. As it is, though, even any shard-host friends Host acquires would not be able to directly benefit from her powers by wearing hats. You're also not optimized for hat-wearing; one of an appropriate size may very well damage you.


What does it mean to be capable of wearing hats?

You're not 100% positive. You know it'll at least have to be a single living entity, although a giant synthetic life-form would also count as such. See above answer.
 
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[x] "Friend" Bio-Tinker Specialty (-2 Points)
-[x] Shared Sights (-1 Point)
-[x] Repurpose Mass (-1 Point)

[x] "Friend" Robot Tinker Specialization (-2 Points, -1 if Bio-Tinker specialty is taken)

[x] Cat-Based Teleportation (-2 Points)
-[x] Since when are they real people? (+1 Point)
 
Query "Can we make beings that are hats and confer bower through being hats whilst also gaining power through wearing hats?"
 
You don't think any of those would work. You could probably use a flower pot as a hat, but that's not anywhere close to the same thing.

You're also pretty sure every other shard and :Mother: would yell at you if you converted the planet into something capable of wearing hats.
I mean in theory the planet probably could wear a tat, we just need one large enough and made of a strong enough material.
 
[] Form Control (-2)
[] Friend Bio-Tinker Specialty (-2) (do you mean little Endbringers or Nilbog style minions?)
[] Friend Robot Tinker Specialization (-1)
-[] Sky based Friends (-1)
Now I really want to add
[]Save Scumming
but you haven't given any flaw which isn't part of an ability, so I'm proposing the following amendment to make it a 0 pt option. Taylor can wake up but she loses the ability to tinker. Already created pets will obey her since she's still her but she cannot make any changes to them nor can she create new ones. Furthermore the transition between Taylor and QA takes 3-4 hours and is incredibly disorienting.
 
Query "Can we make beings that are hats and confer power through being hats whilst also gaining power through wearing hats?"

*headtilt*

That was far more complicated than it needed to be. I think I've already given a "yes" to that?


but you haven't given any flaw which isn't part of an ability, so I'm proposing the following amendment to make it a 0 pt option. Taylor can wake up but she loses the ability to tinker. Already created pets will obey her since she's still her but she cannot make any changes to them nor can she create new ones. Furthermore the transition between Taylor and QA takes 3-4 hours and is incredibly disorienting.

I'm afraid not. I might - might - make a variant on Save Scum available as a future vote-optional-ability if this quest goes on long enough, though.*

*No guarantee, so don't be afraid to take it.
 
[X] Fedorable (-1 Points)
[X] "Friend" Bio-Tinker Specialty (-2 Points)
-[X] Borrowed Features for Wonderful Creatures (-1 Points)
-[X] Shared Sights (-1 Point)
-[X] Repurpose Mass (-1 Point)
 
Vote changed to
[x]hat wearing abominations

[x] plan Quest to Create and Command Cute and cuddly Critters and Creatures to Conquer
[x] "Friend" Bio-Tinker Specialty
-[x] Borrowed Features for Wonderful Creatures
[x] Fedorable,
-[x] Fashion is Serious Business


This will not only give us... I mean our Host the ability to create Cute Critters and Creatures, but also give the Host the ability to give them small little hats to enhance their ability.

Imagine. A small army of cuddly little murder beasts wearing tiny cute hats coming to devour our enemies.

The borrowed features power is also to enhance the cuteness and power of the murder beasts of happiness. "It was a project I made with all my Friends, just for you.~"
 
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@Nixeu I really like your plan, it's probably my second fave of the leading plans, but I can't give up on the Weeping Angel potential of Cat based teleportation, or the Silence potential of Mic Drop. Like, imagine us chasing our prey through a darkened building, making lights flicker and teleporting in the darkness here and there, and then just as they reach outside... Mic Drop, and they wonder what they're doing outside in the first place.

Though actually, I suppose I should confirm. @Alivaril What exactly constitutes a reminder of us for Mic Drop?

EDIT: Also, just checking, but we'll be able to hear the other shards talking to us like in the previous quest right? I was just rereading and realised being able to hear the other shards wasn't originally intended.
I'm not sure how my plan prevents us from rolling our own Weeping Angels and then taking on that form.
I would switch to Hat Wearing Abominations if it had Shared Sight, but it doesn't.
Sorry, but removing any component in the set kinda screws up the synergies. What do I get rid of? Form Control, so we can't use the abilities of our Friends, and so it's much harder to conceal ourselves in the midst of our swarms? Fedorable? What?
[x] plan Quest to Create and Command Cute and cuddly Critters and Creatures to Conquer
[x] "Friend" Bio-Tinker Specialty
-[x] Borrowed Features for Wonderful Creatures
[x] Fedorable,
-[x] Fashion is Serious Business


This will not only give us... I mean our Host the ability to create Cute Critters and Creatures, but also give the Host the ability to give them small little hats to enhance their ability.

Imagine. A small army of cuddly little murder beasts wearing tiny cute hats coming to devour our enemies.

The borrowed features power is also to enhance the cuteness and power of the murder beasts of happiness. "It was a project I made with all my Friends, just for you.~"
That's basically what my vote does, and gives us the ability to turn into our creations.

As much as I love Fashion is Serious Business (seriously, it was in my first vote draft, and my original name for my vote was Sharp-Dressed Shard), Form Change likely gives us more flexibility and control over what powers we have. Changing outfits quickly is more difficult than changing forms, amongst other issues.
 
I'm not sure how my plan prevents us from rolling our own Weeping Angels and then taking on that form.

Problem being that I'm not sure we can actually create our own Weeping Angels. But I am sure that we can become something that looks like a weeping angel with form change, and then use our cat based teleportation to really sell it. Similarly, I kind of doubt we can create a friend with the ability of the Silence, but with Mic Drop, we can turn into something that kinda looks like that, and then apply Mic Drop.

Changing topic, I was looking at the vote options again, and I just realised that Dreamer+Hibernate actually synergizes really well with making friends. If we can only use our power when asleep, but our power is making friends, then that's no problem at all! Our friends will still be there to defend us even when we're awake. I see the most optimised route for a biotinker would be Friend, Creatures, Repurpose Mass, Dreamer+Hibernate, and then probably Fedorable because I doubt the thread would accept any build without Fedorable.

...Too bad I'm too attached to Form Change to really want to focus on biotinkering though. And I'm quite attached to Mic Drop and Cat-based teleportation too, for the horror movie potential.

EDIT: Basically, I'm also concerned about any Tinker build without Repurpose Mass. We'd out ourselves too easily, trying to get all the necessary equipment.
 
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I'm not sure how my plan prevents us from rolling our own Weeping Angels and then taking on that form.

Sorry, but removing any component in the set kinda screws up the synergies. What do I get rid of? Form Control, so we can't use the abilities of our Friends, and so it's much harder to conceal ourselves in the midst of our swarms? Fedorable? What?

That's basically what my vote does, and gives us the ability to turn into our creations.

As much as I love Fashion is Serious Business (seriously, it was in my first vote draft, and my original name for my vote was Sharp-Dressed Shard), Form Change likely gives us more flexibility and control over what powers we have. Changing outfits quickly is more difficult than changing forms, amongst other issues.
Sorry I nicked your idea, I'll switch to your plan. though I still liked my name better, I can see why form change is more valuable.
I didn't read all 240 posts before I posted mine.
 
EDIT: Partially locking the vote in 21 minutes; those with low-vote plans will have the opportunity to switch now or then, but doing so now gives your plan B a better chance of being one of the two or three Phase II options.
Adhoc vote count started by Alivaril on Mar 19, 2018 at 7:05 PM, finished with 266 posts and 55 votes.

  • [X] Plan Teleporting Dragon
    -[X] Form Control (-2 Points)
    -[X] Cat-Based Teleportation (-2 Points)
    -[X] Mic Drop (-1 Point)
    -[X] Fedorable (-1 Points)
    [X] Plan Hat Wearing Abominations
    -[X] Fedorable (-1 Points)
    -[X] Form Control (-2 Points]
    -[X] "Friend" Bio-Tinker Specialty (-2 Points)
    --[x] Borrowed Features for Wonderful Creatures (-1 Points)
    [X]Plan Kitty
    -[X] Fedorable (-1 Points)
    -[X] Mic Drop (-1 Point)
    -[X] Cat-Based Teleportation (-2 Points)
    --[X] Since when are they real people? (+1 Point)
    -[X] Save Scumming (-1 Point)
    -[X] Read-only, Human Senses (-2 Points)
    --[X] Horrible Host Hardware (+1 Point)
    --[X]Write Access, Human Senses (-1 Point)
    [X] Plan: Automatic friends.
    -[X] "Friend" Robot Tinker Specialization (-2 Points, -1 if Bio-Tinker specialty is taken)
    --[X] Sky-Based Friends (-1 Point)
    --[X] Repurpose Mass (-1 Point)
    -[X] Administrative Access, Software (-1 Point)
    -[X] Administrative Access, Hardware (-1 Point)
    [X] Scrodigners Swarm
    -[X] "Friend" Bio-Tinker Specialty (-2 Points)
    --[X] Shared Sights (-1 Point)
    -[X] Fedorable (-1 Points)
    -[X] Cat-Based Teleportation (-2 Points)
    --[X] Since when are they real people? (+1 Point)
    -[X] Mic Drop (-1 Point)
    [X] Plan Teleporting Jeager
    [X] Form Control (-2 Points)
    [x] Read-only, Human Senses (-2 Points)
    [X] Cat-Based Teleportation (-2 Points)
    -[X] Since when are they real people? (+1 Point)
    [x] Fedorable (-1 Points)
    [X] Plan Glitchy the Dragon-Cat
    [X] Mic Drop (-1 Point)
    [X] Administrative Access, Software (-1 Point)
    [X] Administrative Access, Hardware (-1 Point)
    [X] Form Control (-2 Points)
    [X] Cat-Based Teleportation (-2 Points)
    -[X] Since when are they real people? (+1 Point)
    [X] Plan Obviously the Best Powers
    [X] "Friend" Robot Tinker Specialization (-2 Points, -1 if Bio-Tinker specialty is taken)
    -[X] Sky-Based Friends (-1 Point)
    -[X] Repurpose Mass (-1 Point)
    [X] Dreamer (-2 points)
    -[X] Hibernation Mode (+1 Points)
    [X] Administrative Access, Software (-1 Point)
    [x] Fedorable (-1 Points)
    [X] "Friend" Bio-Tinker Specialty (-2 Points)
    -[X] Borrowed Features for Wonderful Creatures (-1 Points)
    -[x] Shared Sights (-1 Point)
    -[X] Repurpose Mass (-1 Point)
    [X] "Friend" Bio-Tinker Specialty (-2 Points)
    -[x] Shared Sights (-1 Point)
    -[X] Repurpose Mass (-1 Point)
    [X] "Friend" Robot Tinker Specialization (-2 Points, -1 if Bio-Tinker specialty is taken)
    [X] Cat-Based Teleportation (-2 Points)
    -[X] Since when are they real people? (+1 Point)
    [X] Plan Teleporting Dragon (Horror Movie variant)
    -[X] Form Control (-2 Points)
    -[X] Cat-Based Teleportation (-2 Points)
    --[X] Since when are they real people? (+1 Point)
    -[X] Mic Drop (-1 Point)
    -[X] Fedorable (-1 Points)
    -[X] Administrative Access, Hardware (-1 Point)
    [X] Scrodigners Swarm 2.0
    -[X] "Friend" Bio-Tinker Specialty (-2 Points)
    --[x] Borrowed Features for Wonderful Creatures (-1 Points)
    -[X] Fedorable (-1 Points)
    -[X] Cat-Based Teleportation (-2 Points)
    --[X] Since when are they real people? (+1 Point)
    [X] Mic Drop (-1 Point)
    [X] Friendship Brigade
    [X] "Friend" Bio-Tinker Specialty (-2 Points)
    [X] Shared Sights (-1 Point)
    [X] "Friend" Robot Tinker Specialization (-2 Points, -1 if Bio-Tinker specialty is taken)
    [X] Sky-Based Friends (-1 Point)
    [x] Save Scumming (-1 Point)
    [X] Plan Now you see me...
    [x] Fedorable (-1 Points)
    -[X] Fashion is Serious Business (-2 Point)
    [X] Cat-Based Teleportation (-2 Points)
    -[X] Since when are they real people? (+1 Point)
    [x] Read-only, Human Senses (-2 Points)
    -[X] Horrible Host Hardware (+1 Point) -[X]Write Access, Human Senses (-1 Point)
    [X] Plan: Nosey
    [X] Mic Drop (-1 Point)
    [X] Administrative Access, Software (-1 Point)
    [X] Administrative Access, Hardware (-1 Point)
    [X] Cat-Based Teleportation (-2 Points)
    -[X] Since when are they real people? (+1 Point)
    [x] Save Scumming (-1 Point)
    [x] Read-only, Human Senses (-2 Points)
    -[X] Horrible Host Hardware (+1 Point)
    [X] Plan Tech Support
    -[X] Mic Drop (-1 Point)
    -[X] Cat-Based Teleportation (-2 Points)
    --[X] Since when are they real people? (+1 Point)
    -[X] Read Access, Memories (-2 Point)
    --[X] Write Access, Memories (-2 Points)
    [x] Plan: One Point Six
    [X] Mic Drop (-1 Point)
    [X] Administrative Access, Software (-1 Point)
    [X] Administrative Access, Hardware (-1 Point)
    [X] Passive-Aggressive Negotiations (-1 Point)
    [x] Save Scumming (-1 Point)
    [x] Fedorable (-1 Points)
    [X] Plan Maximum Troll
    [x] Fedorable (-1 Points)
    -[X] Fashion is Serious Business (-2 Point)
    [X] Passive-Aggressive Negotiations (-1 Point)
    [X] Mic Drop (-1 Point)
    [X] Cat-Based Teleportation (-2 Points)
    -[X] Since when are they real people? (+1 Point)
    [X] Plan Robot Overlord
    -[X] Administrative Access, Software (-1 Point)
    -[X] "Friend" Robot Tinker Specialization (-2 Points, -1 if Bio-Tinker specialty is taken)
    --[X] Sky-Based Friends (-1 Point)
    --[X] Repurpose Mass (-1 Point)
    -[X] Cat-Based Teleportation (-2 Points)
    --[X] Since when are they real people? (+1 Point)
    [X] Plan Swarm!
    [X] "Friend" Bio-Tinker Specialty (-2 Points)
    -[X] Borrowed Features for Wonderful Creatures (-1 Points)
    -[X] Repurpose Mass (-1 Point)
    [X] Cat-Based Teleportation (-2 Points)
 
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EDIT: Basically, I'm also concerned about any Tinker build without Repurpose Mass. We'd out ourselves too easily, trying to get all the necessary equipment.
Find a hat that yields a mass-generation power. Or a power that can be used to refine bulk materials into useful raw material. Given that we're a biotinker, it could be as easy as a power for growing plants or filtering rocks.
 
Hmm, my favourite two plans are already the top two plans, so I guess...

[X] Plan Teleporting Jeager

EDIT: By the way, can anyone from Plan Kitty explain just why they're spending 2 points for the ability to tap into one or at most two other humans at a time, and disable sight and hearing for at most 3 individuals at a time?
 
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Partially locking the vote. If your name is not listed, please switch to one of the following votes. You may also jump in if you haven't voted at all or even switch to another vote.

You may list more than one plan if you'd be fine with two of the options, but don't like the third. EDIT: It has been further narrowed to Teleporting Dragon and Hat Wearing Abominations.





  • [X]Plan Kitty
    -[X] Fedorable (-1 Points)
    -[X] Mic Drop (-1 Point)
    -[X] Cat-Based Teleportation (-2 Points)
    --[X] Since when are they real people? (+1 Point)
    -[X] Save Scumming (-1 Point)
    -[X] Read-only, Human Senses (-2 Points)
    --[X] Horrible Host Hardware (+1 Point)
    --[X]Write Access, Human Senses (-1 Point)

    Number of voters: 7

    NavySeel, W.D Gaster, NemoMarx, spaceman1997, Frescopino, Xenomorph, Bombastus
Reminder:
(Do not include these in plans, they will be taken automatically.)

[X] I know a song…
Broadcasts the shard equivalent of a certain nerve-mounting song on repeat. Thinker shards refuse to model Host or targets close to her as a result. No limitations on daily uses.
-[X]Command Jamming
Host becomes immune to mind-affecting powers unless she specifically chooses to be affected. Your voice is louder than theirs. No limitations on daily uses.

[X] Last Scream
Host didn't go quietly. Just prior to her slumber, she managed to give all nearby hosts (Phantasm) and potential hosts (Architect, Perfectionist) a minor case of severe brain damage. You're not sure they will recover. At least their shard connections are too damaged for your cousins to yell at you. Maybe they'll forget by the time the next cycle rolls around…? You suppose that would be too much to ask for.

[X] Encryption by Idiots
Human memories are organized in a really weird way. It'll take you a while to figure out how you're supposed to read them, and some may even be lost while you're fumbling around.



You have six points to spend. Barring a single plan getting more than 50% of the votes, there will be a second sub-phase where those not voting for one of the top two or three plans will be given a chance to switch. Voting will be locked for the first two hours.

Lowercase-h host equals other shard hosts, uppercase-H Host equals Taylor Hebert.



[] Fedorable (-1 Points)
Host gains powers based on what type of head covering she is wearing. Only one hat, helmet, hood, or similar covering can empower you her at a time. This is just temporary, really! You can fix this, you're sure. It just might take a long time. No limitations on daily uses.

Should you also take the "Friend" bio-tinker specialization, hats given to Host's Friends will provide powers of their own, albeit weaker versions of them.
-[] Fashion is Serious Business (-2 Point)
Host gains more and stronger powers from head coverings. These abilities are further boosted if more than 50% of hosts who see the rest of her outfit believe it matches a given hat. No limitations on daily uses.

[] Passive-Aggressive Negotiations (-1 Point)
Host can passively sense how much she is annoying specific individuals around her. This ability does not affect fear, anger, sadness, etc., only annoyance. No limitations on daily uses.

[] Mic Drop (-1 Point)
You can force others to forget about you for up to ten seconds at a time. After the duration ends, they will not remember prior interactions with you until and unless something reminds them of it. Your continued presence counts as one such reminder.

[] Administrative Access, Software (-1 Point)
You Host is able to ignore any and all computer security systems in order to view and/or modify what lies within. Her changes cannot be undone short of Host granting permission or an outright system reset.

[] Administrative Access, Hardware (-1 Point):
If it is mechanical or electronic and it has more than one setting, Host may choose to change what setting it is on. Additionally, Host automatically detects and can can affect any such objects within approximately 15 meters.

[] Form Control (-2 Points)
You may become a dragon (or any other Terran creature). Their argument is invalid. This includes the creations of shards, provided Host has seen them since you, um, connected to her. "Creations of shards" include any Friends Host makes should you take the relevant bio-tinker specialty.

[] "Friend" Bio-Tinker Specialty (-2 Points)
You Host can create cyoot wittle avataws of death and destruction, They Who Deal With Irritants. No limitations on daily uses.
-[] Borrowed Features for Wonderful Creatures (-1 Points)
Other shards can share a small aspect of their functionality if they so choose. You'll probably need to help them out first. Host can subsequently upgrade her Friends with whatever you've been given, materials permitting. No limitations on daily uses.
-[] Shared Sights (-1 Point)
You Host can force those directly seeing your her Friends to realize they're adorable. Sadly, this won't function through recordings or other technology-based methods of viewing.
-[] Repurpose Mass (-1 Point)
Host may eat and subsequently convert most nutrients and semi-digestible chemicals to usable biomass. Usable biomass can later be released in packets from the palms of Host's hands. Should the Friend robot tinker specialization be taken, Host may also refine many metals and other useful materials in a similar fashion.

[] "Friend" Robot Tinker Specialization (-2 Points, -1 if Bio-Tinker specialty is taken)
Host can create robotic pets to keep her company. Forever. No limitations on daily uses.
-[] Sky-Based Friends (-1 Point)
Host can create full-fledged synthetic intelligences. Not ones as smart as you, mind, but that's practically impossible. Probably about as smart as Host and a lot quicker?
-[] Repurpose Mass (-1 Point)
See Bio-Tinker subskill.

[] Dreamer (-2 points)
While Host's body sleeps, she can deploy an extension to explore the outside world. Extensions may use Host's powers while deployed, although normal usage limits (if any) apply. Really, you're having trouble thinking of a good reason Host shouldn't just stay home and send extensions in her own place. The only thing they can't do better is eat.

Extensions appear as a Host-shaped outline made of (relatively weak) silver defensive barriers. If one of the shields is broken, the entire extension will be disrupted. You'd subsequently have to redeploy it from Host's body.

The extension does technically have a maximum range, but you'd have to exit the planet entirely and then some. A bigger concern would be alternate universes. You can maintain a connection to an extension in another universe, but only so long as a third-party portal connects the two. Your extension will pop and need to be recreated should any such portals be closed. No use limits on extension control, daily use limits on extension creation.
-[] Hibernation Mode (+1 Points)
Host (and by extension, you) loses the ability to use her powers while conscious. To compensate, Host can fall asleep at will and never needs to awaken. She could if she still wanted to. No limitations on daily uses, removes daily extension creation limits on Dreamer.

[] Cat-Based Teleportation (-2 Points)
You honestly have no idea what this has to do with cats. You blame Host's confusing memories. Anyway, whenever a host isn't observing you with their sense of sight, you'll be able to teleport to any other unobserved point within a 1-kilometer radius. Cameras, recordings, reflections, and most other methods of indirect viewing don't count, so HAH!

If you try to teleport inside a solid object or somewhere observed by a host, you will be shunted to the closest valid area.
-[] Since when are they real people? (+1 Point)
Non-hosts also count for the purposes of impairing your teleportation.

[] Save Scumming (-1 Point)
Once her brain is somewhat repaired, you will be able to partially awaken Host, almost completely return control of her body, and see what she thinks of her new life. She'll still think it's a dream for the first few hours and you can return her to proper dreaming if her reaction is unsatisfactory.

[] Read-only, Human Senses (-2 Points)
You Host may tap into the sight and hearing of all humans within approximately 150 meters. Does not count as line-of-sight for relevant powers. Host does not automatically know the exact location of applicable targets, only which direction they are in relation to herself. No daily usage limits.
-[] Horrible Host Hardware (+1 Point)
You can only tap into one target at a time, or two if you ignore Host's senses. No daily usage limits.
-[]Write Access, Human Senses (-1 Point)
You may disable sight and smell for up to three targets at once.

[] Read Access, Memories (-2 Point)
With the help of other shards, Host can experience the memories of other hosts at a rate of five seconds of memory per second of real time. You can force other shards to help even if they refuse, but you don't want to. Reliving a memory will not harm Host's awareness of the outside world and she will always be aware it doesn't feature her.

You'll likely get better at sorting out Host's messed up memories in the process.
-[] Write Access, Memories (-2 Points)
Host can rewrite memories she's previously read at a rate of five seconds per second.

Voting is now locked.
 
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[X] Plan Teleporting Dragon
-[X] Form Control (-2 Points)
-[X] Cat-Based Teleportation (-2 Points)
-[X] Mic Drop (-1 Point)
-[X] Fedorable (-1 Points)
 
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