Rock the Cradle: A cultivation story

...their.

Their. Their. Their.
It's a bit funny to see somebody refering to them with masculine pronouns under somebody doing the same with feminine ones while there are others only using only their name.

Truly, choosing a NB protagonist was probably one of the greatest choices made on this quest. Lovely representation and really sets the quest apart from others
 
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I dunno if I'd go that far. She's got one of the Vorshir helping her, but I'm not sure she'd side with them leaving Cradle. Like...Etaja does not seem to be ideologically super committed, and Keras would have moral issues with both, but probably more with the Vorshir.
They do got a Vorshir helping in the form of Etaja but Etaja is committed in that they learn other power systems and is willing to save everyone of his home world at the cost of hurting other Iterations, by their own actions they're Vorshir. Keras would have issues with lots of the Vorshir but is already kinda connected to the faction through their connection to Etaja.

IMO Keras' strengths are (a) his durability and endurance, (b) his skill with his axe, and (c) the weirder aspects of his path (Dandelion Rain and now distorting senses).

(a) matters less when Yerin is simply very offensively minded and can punch through, dealing lethal damage. (b) is irrelevant, since Yerin is better in terms of pure martial skill. And (c) is less useful since Dandelion Rain is most useful for distractions and Yerin can power through the pain. The trickiest part is going to be the distorted sense, but with Ruler techniques I suspect Yerin can do enough damage in a wide AOE to get him to drop it.

IMO Keras' path is all about outlasting his opponents, confusing them with his weird path, and dealing a final blow usually with his axe. So an opponent who can punch through his endurance, ignore his distractions, and beat him in martial skill is a bad match-up.

That's my take on it, at least.
Yerin being able to nullify endurance is important but something to note is that Keras can heal themselves and will get better at it. I agree that Yerin will always be more skilled then Keras in combat but Keras can become skilled enough to close the gap a bit. Keras could train more esoteric effects and have them become more potent. But I can see how Keras's build vulnerable to Yerin's raw lethality.

I think being a good support is not to be underestimated either. Keras isn't built to win VS matches, they're built to make their friends matches as unfair as possible.
Keras is a battle field build not a duel build which is ironic given that they've only done duels.

...their.

Their. Their. Their.
It's a bit funny to see somebody refering to them with masculine pronouns under somebody doing the same with feminine ones while there are others only using only their name.

Truly, choosing a NB protagonist was probably one of the greatest choices made on this quest. Lovely representation and really sets the quest apart from others
I've only slipped up a couple of times but it happens.
 
It's a bit funny to see somebody refering to them with masculine pronouns under somebody doing the same with feminine ones while there are others only using only their name.
I was laughing too; really gives insight into how the questers see Keras when they slip and use gendered terms, though the masculine following right after feminine was especially ironic.
 
They do got a Vorshir helping in the form of Etaja but Etaja is committed in that they learn other power systems and is willing to save everyone of his home world at the cost of hurting other Iterations, by their own actions they're Vorshir. Keras would have issues with lots of the Vorshir but is already kinda connected to the faction through their connection to Etaja.

I wasn't saying Etaja wasn't Vorshir, I was saying they weren't ideologically super devoted to the cause of the Vorshir. Whole different thing.
 
I wasn't saying Etaja wasn't Vorshir, I was saying they weren't ideologically super devoted to the cause of the Vorshir. Whole different thing.
I mean Etaja seemed very against the Abidan's policy on handling nearly destroyed worlds but that may have just been a just his own world thing and that he's mostly Vorshir due to his actions, connections and convenience.

VagueZ


How many levels of skill is there to Techniques? We've seen basic, advance, mastered, but what about levels beyond even that?
 
How many levels of skill is there to Techniques? We've seen basic, advance, mastered, but what about levels beyond even that?
Your Verdant Valley is improving from an Advanced Technique to a Mastered Technique—the level of polish that Lowgold adults would consider normal. How is it changing?
When we last improved Verdant Valley it said Mastered is the 'Lowgold' equivalent. Mayve that means we can't add new aspects from here, only improve on what it can already do?
 
I mean Etaja seemed very against the Abidan's policy on handling nearly destroyed worlds but that may have just been a just his own world thing and that he's mostly Vorshir due to his actions, connections and convenience.

VagueZ


How many levels of skill is there to Techniques? We've seen basic, advance, mastered, but what about levels beyond even that?
As far as this quest is concerned, it's either five or six, so Basic -> Advanced -> Mastered -> ??? -> ??? -> maybe one more. I'm leaving a little room for me to decide between those two based on how certain things feel as Keras gets older and more established.
When we last improved Verdant Valley it said Mastered is the 'Lowgold' equivalent. Mayve that means we can't add new aspects from here, only improve on what it can already do?
Nothing quite that formal. Techniques can continue to evolve in whatever way a user stretches themself to achieve. Certain types of things are harder/impossible to walk back, but this is more gut feeling than hard rules about what can and can't be done at a given level.

Mastered isn't just Lowgold-appropriate. It's what you'd normally see Lowgold adults have in their usual techniques. So someone who's a 20-something or 30-something Lowgold professional probably has three or four Mastered techniques, with those that are a little above their peers maybe having one a rank higher. Keras having two at this age is somewhere between "gifted kid" and "possibly a prodigy": people who get a good look at Keras' general talents can understand why the Luxe are expecting a return on investment and would tend to hope the kid doesn't suffer burnout.

For one example, the Lowgold Bronze Serpents helping out after the protest injuries would be using a Mastered technique, just one that's a little more focused solely on healing than Keras' broader one.
 
When we last improved Verdant Valley it said Mastered is the 'Lowgold' equivalent. Mayve that means we can't add new aspects from here, only improve on what it can already do?
Lowgold is also noted to be proof of being an adult on Cradle.

As far as this quest is concerned, it's either five or six, so Basic -> Advanced -> Mastered -> ??? -> ??? -> maybe one more. I'm leaving a little room for me to decide between those two based on how certain things feel as Keras gets older and more established.

Nothing quite that formal. Techniques can continue to evolve in whatever way a user stretches themself to achieve. Certain types of things are harder/impossible to walk back, but this is more gut feeling than hard rules about what can and can't be done at a given level.

Mastered isn't just Lowgold-appropriate. It's what you'd normally see Lowgold adults have in their usual techniques. So someone who's a 20-something or 30-something Lowgold professional probably has three or four Mastered techniques, with those that are a little above their peers maybe having one a rank higher. Keras having two at this age is somewhere between "gifted kid" and "possibly a prodigy": people who get a good look at Keras' general talents can understand why the Luxe are expecting a return on investment and would tend to hope the kid doesn't suffer burnout.

For one example, the Lowgold Bronze Serpents helping out after the protest injuries would be using a Mastered technique, just one that's a little more focused solely on healing than Keras' broader one.
Mastered is mastered like you can claim to be a master of a certain craft once you get that good. Also the higher level stuff being lesser firm and unknown makes sense since that level of skill is rarer and harder to reach.

Keras having 2 Mastered techniques at 11 is very impressive considering that Mastered means you're on the level of a professional. It also makes people understand why the Luxe are sponsoring them.

I think that pushing beyond mastered is going to be a little tricky right now so focusing on getting the other techniques up to Mastered seems like a good idea.
 
For Keras' stats I'd like to bring out the stamina strength again we've left that to languish for like… actual in quest and out of quest years. They used to be ridiculously high stamina for their advancement and now they're just kinda above average. With Keras' talent for ruler techniques their investment into concentration with buffs, and dandelion rain plus clinging vines plus the new debuff version of desiccated valley all wanting to be techniques they'd want to use in concert to overwhelm the opponent with debuffs and attacks we really do want the madra capacity to actually pull that off.

The Jade cycling assures Keras will never be a glass cannon already so the strengths feel important to nail down.

The extra hands also adds to the whole multitasking strength.
 
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For Keras' stats I'd like to bring out the stamina strength again we've left that to languish for like… actual in quest and out of quest years. They used to be ridiculously high stamina for their advancement and now they're just kinda above average. With Keras' talent for ruler techniques their investment into concentration with buffs, and dandelion rain plus clinging vines plus the new debuff version of desiccated valley all wanting to be techniques they'd want to use in concert to overwhelm the opponent with debuffs and attacks we really do want the madra capacity to actually pull that off.

The Jade cycling assures Keras will never be a glass cannon already so the strengths feel important to nail down.

The extra hands also adds to the whole multitasking strength.
We've focused on brining up Keras's stats to be well rounded but you are right in how Stamina used to be much proportionally higher, but something to note is that Keras is well above average in most things and the things where that's not the case is being fixed by the Mighty Heart of Oak. But I agree that if we're going to increase a stat is should be stamina which would force it into the B- level.

Keras does have a lot of debuffs, Dessiccated Valley and Clinging Vines currently do so, but I was thinking about trying to do something with Dandelion Rain and combining it with Keras's Elixers to make it into a buffing, healing and debuffing technique, because being able to use our Elixirs in combat would be useful.
 
I think I agree that Keras would benefit the most from mor Stamina or more Coordination. Both are useful in Keras' dayjob in a way something like strength or toughness isn't. Additionally they both synergies well with Keras's techniques. In both cases, the more above average they are, the more helpful. More stamina allows for more techniques, and that pays off the most when you can outlast your opponents. Similarly, more coordination is most helpful when Keras has enough coordination to do two techniques for every one the other person uses, putting them a step ahead with every exchange.
 
I think there was a pretty big focus on Strength for a while because Keras didn't really have a finisher. We could outlast our opponents all day, but that didn't really give us a way to end fights.

But between our axe and Desiccated Valley/Dandelion Rain, we have a bit more direct offense.
 
I think I agree that Keras would benefit the most from mor Stamina or more Coordination.

I also agree, if we can upgrade Toughness as well it would be perfect since that is currently Keras' weakest stat and that is also pretty necessary in combat. At least one grade to put it in "C" like Strength so it stays balanced as Mighty Heart of Oak upgrades both.

Also is on the table refine Dandelion Rain to make it an Advanced technique, it does need more strength behind it, right now is mostly a nuisance.
 
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Going by the order of our techniques Dandelion Rain is likely to be next up, though I'd be happy with just buffing what it can already do (more shots, stronger shots etc).
Nothing quite that formal. Techniques can continue to evolve in whatever way a user stretches themself to achieve. Certain types of things are harder/impossible to walk back, but this is more gut feeling than hard rules about what can and can't be done at a given level.
Fair, I just took Mastered to mean it was the top of the scale.
I also agree, if we can upgrade Toughness as well it would be perfect since that is currently Keras' weakest stat and that is also pretty necessary in combat. At least one grade to put it in "C" like Strength so it stays balanced as Mighty Heart of Oak upgrades both.
Stamina doesn't get actively boosted by anything we have though (technique or otherwise), so upping it next chance we get would be preferable.
 
Stamina doesn't get actively boosted by anything we have though (technique or otherwise), so upping it next chance we get would be preferable.

Dammit, you are right. But I think the next vote is going to be a bit limited, if a vote at all.

This will be the last opportunity that Keras has to define their own schedule before certain elements arise to complicate the young refiner's life.

Is definetly gonna be interesting.
 
For some cultures at least.
IIRC another example of "adulthood" was "mastered a Technique of each type".
That's a good point each culture could handle things different, same with schools/sects and clans. But for Keras is seems like gold = adult in their place of origin though that's not exactly the most impressive place around.

I think I agree that Keras would benefit the most from mor Stamina or more Coordination. Both are useful in Keras' dayjob in a way something like strength or toughness isn't. Additionally they both synergies well with Keras's techniques. In both cases, the more above average they are, the more helpful. More stamina allows for more techniques, and that pays off the most when you can outlast your opponents. Similarly, more coordination is most helpful when Keras has enough coordination to do two techniques for every one the other person uses, putting them a step ahead with every exchange.
Coordination and Stamina do have out of battlefield uses that help more for their refiner job then strength, speed and toughness. Stamina will be useful for survival situations where Keras has to fight for long periods of time or do lots of healing.

I think there was a pretty big focus on Strength for a while because Keras didn't really have a finisher. We could outlast our opponents all day, but that didn't really give us a way to end fights.

But between our axe and Desiccated Valley/Dandelion Rain, we have a bit more direct offense.
Keras's strength is now massively boosted by Field's Strength and is already above average for a low gold being at C, it's just that it isn't at C+ like the other stats besides toughness is.

I also agree, if we can upgrade Toughness as well it would be perfect since that is currently Keras' weakest stat and that is also pretty necessary in combat. At least one grade to put it in "C" like Strength so it stays balanced as Mighty Heart of Oak upgrades both.

Also is on the table refine Dandelion Rain to make it an Advanced technique, it does need more strength behind it, right now is mostly a nuisance.
Upgrading toughness would boost Keras's weakest stat to being above average for a Low Gold and then it would be equal with strength which will be good since strength and toughness are equally boosted by the Cycling.

Refining Dandelion Rain is a good choice, I'm split between adding death madra or trying to integrate Elixirs into it.

Going by the order of our techniques Dandelion Rain is likely to be next up, though I'd be happy with just buffing what it can already do (more shots, stronger shots etc).
We have aoe pretty much covered so I'd like to go for stronger shots and possibly applying status effects with death madra.

Fair, I just took Mastered to mean it was the top of the scale.
Interestingly mastered just means you have it to a professional level.

Stamina doesn't get actively boosted by anything we have though (technique or otherwise), so upping it next chance we get would be preferable.
Dammit, you are right. But I think the next vote is going to be a bit limited, if a vote at all.
I forgot about it while planning the stat boost, but stuff is going to go down in the near future so maybe going into toughness to help survive that will be for the best.

Is definetly gonna be interesting.
Keras's life is going to become more chaotic but that's also going to force them to kick their growth up a level and they'll be facing more dangerous things that will test them.

Oh sure. I figure the next time we get a stat upgrade that doesn't come from the Mighty Heart of Oak will be Highgold at the earliest, and that's at least a year or two away.
Yeah the Mighty Heart of Oak is longer term growth not immediate.
 
Ok, so my curiosity with what might be coming may have been a bit obsessive. This is every timeline mention:

A Visit from the Heavens:
9 years before the Dreadgod's arrival
14 years before the Uncrowned King tournament

Man From Rising Earth:
The day your brother returns home
The day before your first official duel
109 days until your second meeting with Etaja

Heavenly Messenger Again:
The day of your second meeting with Etaja
2 years before your duel against Kyeol's champion
8 years before the Dreadgod's arrival
13 years before the Uncrowned King tournament.

A successful hunt:
1.5 years before your duel against Kyeol's champion
7.5 years before the Dreadgod's arrival

Visions yet to come:
1 year before your duel against Kyeol's champion.
7 years before the Dreadgod's arrival

Meeting the margravine:
7 months before your duel against Kyeol's champion
Approximately 6.5 years before the Dreadgod's arrival

Countdown to Duel:
3 months before your duel against Kyeol's champion
Approximately 6 years before the Dreadgod's arrival
11 years before the Uncrowned King tournament

The eve of the fight:
The night before your duel against Kyeol's champion
6 years before the Dreadgod's arrival

The promised fight concludes:
6 years before the Dreadgod's arrival
11 years before the Uncrowned King tournament

A first flight:
1 week before you meet the assassins
5 years before the Dreadgod's arrival

How to heal:
4 days before you meet the assassins

An unexpected visitor:
10 days before you first meet an Underlord
5 years before the Dreadgod's arrival
11 years before the Uncrowned King tournament

Belatedly Jade:
3 days before you first meet an Underlord
5 years before the Dreadgod's arrival
2 days before you first meet an Underlord

A glimpse of a Lord:
The day before you first meet an Underlord

Soulfire dissected:
The day of your ninth birthday
The day before you meet the Lady of the Night Sky
Eight days before you meet Meira

A refiner's mansion explored:
8 days before you meet the Riyusai genius
9 days before Venkata's advancement completes

Another Underlord:
The day before you meet the Riyusai Genius
2 days before Venkata's advancement completes

The paths ahead:
The day Venkata's advancement completes
5 years before the Dreadgod's arrival
One week after Venkata's after advancement completes
5 years before the Dreadgod's arrival

How to refine:
6 months before the Kingsday celebration
4 years before the Dreadgod's arrival

Confusing meetings:
The week before the Kingsday celebration
4 years before the Dreadgod's arrival
The day of the event

The Underlord returns:
1 year before Mom's visit
2 years before the attempt on the Prince's life
4 years before the Dreadgod's arrival

Underlords' assignments:
6 weeks before Mom's visit
1 year before the attempt on the Prince's life
3 years before the Dreadgod's arrival

A disorder discovered:
The day Mom arrives
One day before Monarchs clash a continent away
Less than one year before the attempt on the Prince's life

Brother-in-law:
Less than one year before the attempt on the Prince's life
Just over two years before the Dreadgod's arrival

The last mention of the assassination attempt was only the previous chapter, so we have less than a year but probably more than 6 months (VagueZ usually marks off half years). I don't think it'll be that, since I expect we'll be back in Grand Crevasse in a month or two, tops.

My theory is either Cheng ramping up his tasks for Keras for the Heaven's Facade, or the Lady of Night Sky giving us other refining assignments.

Also, quick question, Vague: has there been another Kingsday since the one we fought during? I feel like it's been over a year since then. But I guess maybe we'd advanced to Lowgold before that? (And thus would get trounced by any Lowgold fighters, even if we used the Cheng loophole again.)
 
Also, quick question, Vague: has there been another Kingsday since the one we fought during? I feel like it's been over a year since then. But I guess maybe we'd advanced to Lowgold before that? (And thus would get trounced by any Lowgold fighters, even if we used the Cheng loophole again.)

Yes, there has! That one was an extra-large celebration because it was coincidentally the fiftieth year celebration. Since then, we've had... either one or two more, I'd have to check some notes I don't have on me right now. Regardless, they were smaller holidays and I didn't have any dramatic things to show, so they just weren't remarked on.
 
Could someone who's actually read Cradle give a quick briefing on the Vroshir and Abidan?

The Abidan are the ruling polity in the...multiverse is, I guess, the best term. They're fairly angelically themed and a relatively benevolent organization, but very much in a 'we predict the future and do what is necessary to ensure optimal outcomes' kind of way. Very 'greatest good for the greatest number' kinda stuff and potentially pretty dogmatic about it. This can absolutely involve destroying entire worlds and, if necessary, everyone on them. Some of them are also colossal assholes, because they are a group of people, and that's how groups of people are.

The Vorshir, meanwhile are much less unified. They're basically a coalition of everyone willing to actually oppose the Abidan militarily. There are definitely idealists in their ranks who want to make a better, freer, multiverse but there are also greedy criminals out for themselves and people who just want to commit mass murder of entire universes for the lolz. They fairly routinely destroy whole worlds in their crusade to overthrow the Abidan.

So...yeah, Etaja's story about their home world is likely entirely true. The Abidan did analysis and were like 'well, more people die if we try and save it, so we can't do that'...the Vorshir got a new recruit out of helping if they did it, and didn't care about that fact.
 
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Could someone who's actually read Cradle give a quick briefing on the Vroshir and Abidan?
So broadly, the Abidan are the "good guys" and the Vroshir are "everybody else".

The Abidan control a large number of worlds. They have a policy of non-intervention in these worlds (including arresting anybody who tries to enter a world and intervene). This includes up to the point of letting a world die if Fate says it will. Ozriel, the Judge of Death (think a Monarch with the Death Icon except absurdly more powerful), is charged with destroying any worlds destined to die so their destruction doesn't impact any other worlds.

The Vroshir are a loose coalition of everybody opposed to the Abidan. This includes mostly decent folks (the Silverlords, from what we briefly see of them, seem to be decent rulers), a few amoral types who simply don't like the Abidan's rules, and a few absolute monsters.

So like Deadmanwalking said, Etaja's story is almost certainly true. The Abidan do evacuate some of a dying world's population. But any who die in the lead-up to destruction obviously don't get evacuated, and the series is fairly ambiguous on exactly how many do get evacuated.
 
An unexpected visitor:
10 days before you first meet an Underlord
5 years before the Dreadgod's arrival
11 years before the Uncrowned King tournament
Brother-in-law:
Less than one year before the attempt on the Prince's life
Just over two years before the Dreadgod's arrival
The main things coming up are the attempt on the Prince's life, the Dreadgod's arrival, and the Uncrowned King tournament. The attempt on the prince's life is going to mess with Keras's schedule and make things chaotic and then the dreadgod's arrival is going to kick thing into an even higher gear. And Keras is likely gong to be one of the Kingdom's candidates for the Uncrowned King tournament.

My theory is either Cheng ramping up his tasks for Keras for the Heaven's Facade, or the Lady of Night Sky giving us other refining assignments.
It's probably going to be both along with the attempt on the Prince's life complicating things, but Keras's life being taken up by the attempts of the Heaven's Facade is the most immediately obvious.

Also, quick question, Vague: has there been another Kingsday since the one we fought during? I feel like it's been over a year since then. But I guess maybe we'd advanced to Lowgold before that? (And thus would get trounced by any Lowgold fighters, even if we used the Cheng loophole again.)
Yes, there has! That one was an extra-large celebration because it was coincidentally the fiftieth year celebration. Since then, we've had... either one or two more, I'd have to check some notes I don't have on me right now. Regardless, they were smaller holidays and I didn't have any dramatic things to show, so they just weren't remarked on.
So basically Keras went in and gave a good showing but at that point it was something Keras got used to and became know for.

Could someone who's actually read Cradle give a quick briefing on the Vroshir and Abidan?
Chaos Ascended and Order Ascended.
People that have ascended beyond their original worlds and have joined one of the main organizations of ascended beings.
Cradle is called that because it is the literal cradle of the Abidan, where the first Abidan came from and still a source of new recruits.
The Abidan are the ruling polity in the...multiverse is, I guess, the best term. They're fairly angelically themed and a relatively benevolent organization, but very much in a 'we predict the future and do what is necessary to ensure optimal outcomes' kind of way. Very 'greatest good for the greatest number' kinda stuff and potentially pretty dogmatic about it. This can absolutely involve destroying entire worlds and, if necessary, everyone on them. Some of them are also colossal assholes, because they are a group of people, and that's how groups of people are.

The Vorshir, meanwhile are much less unified. They're basically a coalition of everyone willing to actually oppose the Abidan militarily. There are definitely idealists in their ranks who want to make a better, freer, multiverse but there are also greedy criminals out for themselves and people who just want to commit mass murder of entire universes for the lolz. They fairly routinely destroy whole worlds in their crusade to overthrow the Abidan.

So...yeah, Etaja's story about their home world is likely entirely true. The Abidan did analysis and were like 'well, more people die if we try and ave it, so we can't do that'...the Vorshir got a new recruit out of helping if they did it, and didn't care about that fact.
Abidan basically make sure Iterations follow their natural paths and that the greatest good is severed, they're good as an organization but very stagnant and hidebound and have their number of assholes.

Vroshir is basically anyone who's against the Abidan for one reason or another, that can be due to them being genocidal monsters, learning various power systems from different Iterations or pulling a Etaja and saving their Iteration while damaging others.

Both organizations have their virtues and flaws but for all of the Abidan's cold hearted pragmatism they do mean well for the multiverse and try to help, while the Vroshir is extremely fragmented and individualistic to the point it's hard to make sweeping statements about them and they have monsters on their side.

Keras due to being taught by Etaja a member of the Vroshir likely counts as at least somewhat affiliated with the Vorshir due to there almost certainly being rules and laws against teaching people if you're a higher order being which kinda makes them against the Abidan by default let alone that they're being taught by a member of the Vroshir.

So broadly, the Abidan are the "good guys" and the Vroshir are "everybody else".

The Abidan control a large number of worlds. They have a policy of non-intervention in these worlds (including arresting anybody who tries to enter a world and intervene). This includes up to the point of letting a world die if Fate says it will. Ozriel, the Judge of Death (think a Monarch with the Death Icon except absurdly more powerful), is charged with destroying any worlds destined to die so their destruction doesn't impact any other worlds.

The Vroshir are a loose coalition of everybody opposed to the Abidan. This includes mostly decent folks (the Silverlords, from what we briefly see of them, seem to be decent rulers), a few amoral types who simply don't like the Abidan's rules, and a few absolute monsters.

So like Deadmanwalking said, Etaja's story is almost certainly true. The Abidan do evacuate some of a dying world's population. But any who die in the lead-up to destruction obviously don't get evacuated, and the series is fairly ambiguous on exactly how many do get evacuated.
The Vroshir being everyone else is a good description of things.
 
Keras due to being taught by Etaja a member of the Vroshir likely counts as at least somewhat affiliated with the Vorshir due to there almost certainly being rules and laws against teaching people if you're a higher order being which kinda makes them against the Abidan by default let alone that they're being taught by a member of the Vroshir.

Eh...this seems unlikely to me in and of itself. There are absolutely laws about this, but Keras isn't the one who broke them. The Abidan would likely be very concerned about Keras's allegiances if they knew this stuff, but that's different then Keras being automatically penalized.
 
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