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Revan Quest (Star Wars)

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[]Dual Lightsabers
This is canon...
[X] Form Zero. Master Shade would be proud of your floating deathball of nine lightsabers
...but this is cooler. And it one-ups Master Kreia.

[X]Taris. The Blockade is not yet fully in effect, and you can likely land unopposed in the confusion. Taking off later may be more difficult, however.
Let's gather the party and any Republic soldiers that survived the initial evacuation and crash. There should be at least a few alive by the time we touch down.
 
AllRoadsLeadTo said:
[]Dual Lightsabers
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I've seen people say that a few times now but.. That's... Wrong? Whenever he shows up in the comics he uses a single lightsaber, when he shows up in TOR he uses a single lightsaber... I think the only time he dual wields is in KOTOR2 when the Exile fights a weird hallucination of him? I think?
 
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[x] Form Zero. Master Shade would be proud of your floating deathball of nine lightsabers
[x] Star Forge
 
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Draton said:
I've seen people say that a few times now but.. That's... Wrong? Whenever he shows up in the comics he uses a single lightsaber, when he shows up in TOR he uses a single lightsaber... I think the only time he dual wields is in KOTOR2 when the Exile fights a weird hallucination of him? I think?
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That's what they are talking about. Also the wiki mentions he dual wielded. Heck I think the phantom thing you fight as a sith in TOR dual wielded. And checking up on the wiki he apparently dual wields two and uses Keira's telekinisis trick to wield to more in the shadow of revan expansion of SWTOR.
 
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[X]Single Lightsaber
[x]Taris. The Blockade is not yet fully in effect, and you can likely land unopposed in the confusion. Taking off later may be more difficult, however.
 
[X]Dual Lightsabers
[X]Taris. The Blockade is not yet fully in effect, and you can likely land unopposed in the confusion. Taking off later may be more difficult, however.
 
Dark Wanderer said:
That's what they are talking about. Also the wiki mentions he dual wielded. Heck I think the phantom thing you fight as a sith in TOR dual wielded. And checking up on the wiki he apparently dual wields two and uses Keira's telekinisis trick to wield to more in the shadow of revan expansion of SWTOR.
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Just rechecked footage of his boss fight in the expansion and he does dual wield. But in all the comics I could find, and promo art it shows him with a single lightsaber. *shrug* I saw reference to him leaving his mask and his lightsaber (singular) behind and such as well...

Honestly I suspect they made it vague on purpose (and I still havent wholly forgiven TOR for its treatment of revan in the backstory)

Dual wielding has always felt a little... Meh to me. I use it in some runs but it always makes me feel like I'm over compensating. Single bladed duelist always made me feel like a Boss.

Also I've never forgiven dual wielding asshole Boc Aseca, and how much I hated that goddamn fight. So I suppose I'm biased against the style.
 
[X]Dual Lightsabers
[X]Taris. The Blockade is not yet fully in effect, and you can likely land unopposed in the confusion. Taking off later may be more difficult, however.
 
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I think the dual wielding is heavily influenced by the fan notion of Revan as THE Neutral Force User, who favor neither Light nor Dark and mastered both. So he end up wielding two sabers with colors usually associated with each of the two sides as a visual representation of his neutrality in the Force.

It's a concept that I like myself, so I'm all for Dual Saber as a result.
 
[X]Single Lightsaber
[X]Taris. The Blockade is not yet fully in effect, and you can likely land unopposed in the confusion. Taking off later may be more difficult, however.
 
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illusivepunk said:
Speaking of unusual things... we are her apprentice, right?

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She's one of our many Masters, though our favourite Master I think?

Do recall Revan had loads of masters.

She is reaaally fond of us though.. so we could look at sending her a message through the Force or via some form of holomessage. I mean, we are very powerful in the force, how hard could it be to go "yo Kreia, I'm alive, wassup?"

She's honestly likely to be loyal to us, even if she is the Lord of Betrayal or whatever.
 
The thing is, as much as Kreia seems to idolize Revan, our goals are still very contradictory. Kreia want's to destroy the force, Revan just wants to protect the galaxy. Yes she idolizes us for utilizing the force without defining ourselves by it, but Revan is really unlikely to agree with Kreia's ideology at all. Ultimately, Kreia is more than a little insane, and controlling insane people is never an easy task.

Although all this KOTOR2 talk has me wondering if we should track down and recruit Atton Rand. He's loyal, he's competent, and he can get behind what we're trying to do
 
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Karugus said:
Although all this KOTOR2 talk has me wondering if we should track down and recruit Atton Rand. He's loyal, he's competent, and he can get behind what we're trying to do
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Wasn't he part of our Empire?
I seem to recall him talking about being a Jedi killer in the civil war.. or well pre-KOTOR2

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Kreia want's to destroy the force,
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Wasn't that only after Revan went walkabouts and disappeared?
 
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The thing is, as much as Kreia seems to idolize Revan, our goals are still very contradictory. Kreia want's to destroy the force, Revan just wants to protect the galaxy. Yes she idolizes us for utilizing the force without defining ourselves by it, but Revan is really unlikely to agree with Kreia's ideology at all. Ultimately, Kreia is more than a little insane, and controlling insane people is never an easy task.
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I agree with this to an extent. Kreia is not some admirer of Revan's who'll subordinate herself to her 'idol'. She's a very powerful force user with her own goals, and while she'll respect Revan for his ability, that doesn't mean she won't oppose him - she's got her own goals, and they're rather different from Revan's.

I'm not sure 'insanity' works, though. She's fairly rational, and even if her logic is twisted, it's fairly stable.
 
Kaioo said:
Wasn't that only after Revan went walkabouts and disappeared?
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nah she noticed that the same conflict happens again and again and again, sith vs jedi, empire vs republic, light vs dark, and at the centre of it every time is the force empowering and motivating those fighting. It's not too strange a conclusion to come to that the force is the cause of those conflicts then is it?
 
I can't help but think Kreia was born because someone at Obsidian was rather peeved at the binary Light/Dark alignment system and grew from there.
 
Guys guys guys

What is up with all this rational talk? We're being given a lot of leeway to do whatever the fuck we want, we should be making more crazy plans!

You know what we should do? Screw the Ebon Hawk, let's steal a ship way bigger and way newer, call it the Normandy, paint it crazy colours, recruit everyone we want and go on an inter-galactic space cruise, kicking ass and taking names!
 
Dimensionist said:
I agree with this to an extent. Kreia is not some admirer of Revan's who'll subordinate herself to her 'idol'. She's a very powerful force user with her own goals, and while she'll respect Revan for his ability, that doesn't mean she won't oppose him - she's got her own goals, and they're rather different from Revan's.

I'm not sure 'insanity' works, though. She's fairly rational, and even if her logic is twisted, it's fairly stable.
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Uh, she despises the force and is actively striving to see it removed from the universe. She's trying to remove a fundamental aspect of the universe. Like time, or gravity, or the strong/weak nuclear forces. She doesn't care how many people get hurt or if there's anything left, she just want's to 'free' the universe from the 'tyranny' the force entails. That's all kinds of insane to me.

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Wasn't he part of our Empire?
I seem to recall him talking about being a Jedi killer in the civil war.. or well pre-KOTOR2
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She fell when she found the academy at Malachor, when Revan went beyond the outer rim the first time.
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Rand would be working for the Empire as a Jedi Hunter. He fled when a Jedi told him he was force sensitive and the Sith would 'recruit' him too. He definitely believed in Revan before he fled though, and is pretty contemptuous of the Jedi before the Exile awakens his sensitivity.
 
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Carrnage said:
what's a Normandy?
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A geographical region of France roughly corresponding to the former Duchy of Normandy, which lasted from its formation in 996 to 1789, though it changed hands several times within the English and later the French who controlled it, and which is split into two administrative regions. But that's not important right now.
 
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It's not too strange a conclusion to come to that the force is the cause of those conflicts then is it?
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And if Revan is championing a "fuck both sides, they're stupid" view or "people make their own choices" view, she might agree with him.

And honestly, given how history in star wars goes, is Kreia's theory really all that far off base?
 
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