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With the knowledge Wayland has on Fel and Shamanism, is it possible to use this knowledge to create the first Human Warlocks and Shamans?
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Why would we want to make more Warlocks?
[x] Mention to Dampgear that in Stormwind we came across a kind of iron or steel Zweihänder, made by Orcs, that reacted beautifully to shamanistic fire and wind. If they want proof that we are as good or better than their own smiths we'd like the same material to work with.
-[x] Build a higher quality Zweihänder.
-[x] Also talk with our female goblin master about a vision we had - of a new eye for ourselves, fixing our depth perception issues.
Eh, was thinking of making shamanism equipment for the orcs anyway.
@Lost Star By the way, How exactly does transmuting work? Do you need to spend the entire week working on the transmute? Or do you cast a spell on it and wait a week for the metal to fully change over into gold.
Since I always thought that transmuting was instant, ala full metal alchemist, with the bottleneck being the amount of knowledge you needed to transmute stuff in the first place except for the difficult metals ala arcanite.
-[x] Build a higher quality Zweihänder.
-[x] Also talk with our female goblin master about a vision we had - of a new eye for ourselves, fixing our depth perception issues.
Eh, was thinking of making shamanism equipment for the orcs anyway.
@Lost Star By the way, How exactly does transmuting work? Do you need to spend the entire week working on the transmute? Or do you cast a spell on it and wait a week for the metal to fully change over into gold.
Since I always thought that transmuting was instant, ala full metal alchemist, with the bottleneck being the amount of knowledge you needed to transmute stuff in the first place except for the difficult metals ala arcanite.
Amen, why the hell would we want more?
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Aren't evil Warlocks usually rushed getting power from Fel which resulted of them becoming crazy while sane ones that have no evil intention took the slow and safer route in their studies?
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[x] Mention to Dampgear that in Stormwind we came across a kind of iron or steel Zwiehander, made by Orcs, that reacted beautifully to shamanistic fire and wind. If they want proof that we are as good or better than their own smiths we'd like the same material to work with.
-[x] Build a higher quality Zwiehander.
-[x] Also talk with our female goblin friend about a vision we had - of a new eye for ourselves, a better eye.
-[x] Build a higher quality Zwiehander.
-[x] Also talk with our female goblin friend about a vision we had - of a new eye for ourselves, a better eye.
That's game mechanics more than anything else actually. A transmute is a long boring process where you setup a magical chemical process that slowly converts one material to another. Basically it takes a week for the entire thing. A lot of it is spent letting it soak in various solutions and monitoring it.
Basically. Hence they're overwhelmingly going to be crazy or else pushed aside.
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True.
With the proper training and studying, Warlocks could become a major asset for the Alliance. Instead of power though, they will focus on control and efficiency instead.
Now having Human Shamans would be really interesting to have for the Alliance war machine.
Eh, the way I see it. Fel's benefit is that you can get power fast.
It's the easy power since an acolyte warlock can become as dangerous as fully fledged mage since Fel is so freaking volatile. Just toss that shit places, and things die. The problem is that Fel apparently has a power cap.
Where a normal spellcaster can continually grow stronger. A Warlock seems to have a cap on the amount of fel magic they can safely channel or else they start mutating and going crazy.
I think there's only been like 1 good warlock that I know of. And he was a weird, elf, undead. Thing.
It's the easy power since an acolyte warlock can become as dangerous as fully fledged mage since Fel is so freaking volatile. Just toss that shit places, and things die. The problem is that Fel apparently has a power cap.
Where a normal spellcaster can continually grow stronger. A Warlock seems to have a cap on the amount of fel magic they can safely channel or else they start mutating and going crazy.
I think there's only been like 1 good warlock that I know of. And he was a weird, elf, undead. Thing.
Well, one possible use for Fel power I can think of is controlling demons, but getting to that level of power while being careful is going to take a long time.
Though I suppose a crafter might be able to use small amounts of it in conjunction with other power sources to get the same effect while remaining in safe corruption levels.
Though I suppose a crafter might be able to use small amounts of it in conjunction with other power sources to get the same effect while remaining in safe corruption levels.
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Aren't the Warlocks loyal to Warchief Thrall or King Varian considered good or at least sane?
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Shrug, they don't really mention the warlocks in the overarching lore after the third war. As a character, they're pretty much a non entity except for when they're being evil ala Gul'dan.
I don't think you can mix power sources. The closest I can think of that might be the case would be the Sunwell. And, well. Sunwell. That mini well of eternity breaks rules all over the place.
And controlling demons isn't really that good of an idea anyway. By pulling demons into your plane you pretty much plant a beacon saying. "Hey, I've ripped a tear into our reality. Come one, come all"
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No. No warlocks are considered okay or good. None of them.
The warlocks in WoW were about an inch away from being mass-slaughtered after WC3, and after vigorous and hostile debate, they were tenuously allowed to live. And they were universally disliked or outright hated by anyone that wasn't also a warlock.
Because warlocks use Fel magic, and fel magic always corrupts its users. How fast depends on the potency and quantity of fel magic the person is fucking with, but it always corrupts its users.
The warlocks in WoW were about an inch away from being mass-slaughtered after WC3, and after vigorous and hostile debate, they were tenuously allowed to live. And they were universally disliked or outright hated by anyone that wasn't also a warlock.
Because warlocks use Fel magic, and fel magic always corrupts its users. How fast depends on the potency and quantity of fel magic the person is fucking with, but it always corrupts its users.
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[x] Mention to Dampgear that in Stormwind we came across a kind of iron or steel Zwiehander, made by Orcs, that reacted beautifully to shamanistic fire and wind. If they want proof that we are as good or better than their own smiths we'd like the same material to work with.
-[x] Build a higher quality Zwiehander.
-[x] Also talk with our female goblin friend about a vision we had - of a new eye for ourselves, a better eye.
-[x] Build a higher quality Zwiehander.
-[x] Also talk with our female goblin friend about a vision we had - of a new eye for ourselves, a better eye.
Wasn't there a warlock during the whole Varian Wrynn thing? He helped out Valeera Sanguinar with her possession problem if I recall.
Edit: Or maybe he was a normal mage. Hmm.
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Based on Word of GM here, it's not as absolute as you make it out to be, provided quantities are kept small and precautions taken.
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Honestly, I'm not even gonna try to convince people not to play with concentrated evil. If you want to poison Wayland instead of taking advantage of a vast number of other available options that aren't toxic, then we'll do that.
I am fairly sure the majority do not in fact want to touch evil-in-a-can for any reason and it is unlikely to ever actually win a vote unless the alternative is even worse.
There is always a very vocal minority for doing exactly that in every quest for some reason though...
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Yes, I know. But we're on page 87 now, if they haven't gotten the memo yet then they aren't going to no matter how many times we say it.
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[x] Mention to Dampgear that in Stormwind we came across a kind of iron or steel Zwiehander, made by Orcs, that reacted beautifully to shamanistic fire and wind. If they want proof that we are as good or better than their own smiths we'd like the same material to work with.
-[x] Further mention about our skills with light-forging - and that it is particularly effective against Fel Magics and the Fel-tainted. Mention that if he happens to find any customers who might *want* gear that was particularly effective against Fel Magics and the Fel-tainted....
-[x] Build a higher quality Zwiehander, using Shamanic enchants (or Light-enchants, if he likes. They are shiny, after all).
-[x] Also talk with our female goblin friend about a vision we had - of a new eye for ourselves, a better eye.
Tossed in another bit that I think might help. Couldn't hurt.
-[x] Further mention about our skills with light-forging - and that it is particularly effective against Fel Magics and the Fel-tainted. Mention that if he happens to find any customers who might *want* gear that was particularly effective against Fel Magics and the Fel-tainted....
-[x] Build a higher quality Zwiehander, using Shamanic enchants (or Light-enchants, if he likes. They are shiny, after all).
-[x] Also talk with our female goblin friend about a vision we had - of a new eye for ourselves, a better eye.
Tossed in another bit that I think might help. Couldn't hurt.
Emizaquel
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Let us begin the construction of page long planning posts once again.