Putting the Craft in Warcraft

How about something non-lethal using elemental lightning? Basically, lets make a taser.
Orcs have all sorts of internal discipline problems after all. A police weapon will help Doomhammer, who we know is basically reasonable, because he currently holds power.
 
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Won't be enough for the orcs. But I'd think they'd figure it out if the orcs have a type of hammer that should be only made by dwarves.
 
How about something non-lethal using elemental lightning? Basically, lets make a taser.
Orcs have all sorts of internal discipline problems after all. A police weapon will help Doomhammer, who we know is basically reasonable, because he currently holds power.
Non-lethal for whom? Anything that could "taze" an Orc would probably kill a human.
 
@Lost Star Can you elaborate on how alchemy exactly works? Do we just have to pay the price and work for the given duration (i.e 1 week for gold transmutation)?

How about we ask for a shaman to teach us about the elements, telling them that we want to imbue elemental properties into weapons?
 
@Lost Star Can you elaborate on how alchemy exactly works? Do we just have to pay the price and work for the given duration (i.e 1 week for gold transmutation)?

How about we ask for a shaman to teach us about the elements, telling them that we want to imbue elemental properties into weapons?
Alchemy stuff is just pay the gold and get it done. That's about it. Technically I should set a time for it, but frankly you got enough on your plate. A lot of it is setting the stuff and letting it brew or seep or mix.

Of course if you abuse it, I will slap a time on it, but I don't think that will be an issue with the costs involved.
 
Hey let's make sword that simultaneously damages the opponent and drains the opponents magic, like using lighting to make circuit with the opponent body.
 
Honestly, I think the orcs are likely to be impressed by stuff that's insanely durable, even if it's not effective. So I'd say thorium weapons, stupid as they are in many respects since they can't keep an edge like other metals do, could be a very high-ticket item with them. Big thorium axes or warhammers that they never need to replace. Give them mithril inlay for impressive lightning-zappiness and call it done.

We should try to avoid making armor since it will lead to the orcs heroes surviving more often. Honestly, I don't think we want even Doomhammer to survive, he has his points in comparison to Gul'Dam but we should want him dead.
 
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Hey let's make sword that simultaneously damages the opponent and drains the opponents magic, like using lighting to make circuit with the opponent body.
Are you aware that there are some issues with this and all of the other ideas you presented so far? For example, Wayland does not know how to make a sword like this and he has to start making one right away. Or that this gives a weapon of tremendous power to the orks and that is the last thing that Wayland wants?
 
Honestly, I think the orcs are likely to be impressed by stuff that's insanely durable, even if it's not effective. So I'd say thorium weapons, stupid as they are in many respects since they can't keep an edge like other metals do, could be a very high-ticket item with them. Big thorium axes or warhammers that they never need to replace. Give them mithril inlay for impressive lightning-zappiness and call it done.

We should try to avoid making armor since it will lead to the orcs heroes surviving more often. Honestly, I don't think we want even Doomhammer to survive, he has his points in comparison to Gul'Dam but we should want him dead.
I'm pretty sure they won't like the fact it can't keep an edge. Thorium would be good for war hammers.
 
what about an iron shield that blowup in flames when It is striked?

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It would be something flashy, of dubious utility but that could be improved with time...

Not only Yat, but it can be made by shamanic ways... and if it got some fell protection...then it would be much more impressive
 
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How about armor or weapon for Doomhammer? We kinda owe him one and he might like us more, which is good considering our situation.
 
I think people are overthinking things on the flashy bit. We know how to make Light, Icy, Lightning and Flaming weapons. Clearly we should just make a two handed Icy Flaming Lightning Light weapon. So Mithril Greatsword/axe with a gold inlaid.
 
I think anyone who thinks we're going to get out of this without making some quality weapons for the Orcs are being naive. Trying to avoid that will just piss of our goblin watchers for screwing around and get us ungodly eye-pain. The thing we want to be mindful about doing is revolutionizing things for the Orcs, not making good stuff.
 
I think anyone who thinks we're going to get out of this without making some quality weapons for the Orcs are being naive. Trying to avoid that will just piss of our goblin watchers for screwing around and get us ungodly eye-pain. The thing we want to be mindful about doing is revolutionizing things for the Orcs, not making good stuff.
Nothing wrong with making quality weapons, but if we can make quality weapons of a certain type, which encourages a certain combat style and indirectly leadership style by those who wield them, then we can affect the conflict.
 
Nothing wrong with making quality weapons, but if we can make quality weapons of a certain type, which encourages a certain combat style and indirectly leadership style by those who wield them, then we can affect the conflict.
exactly, we can make shamanistic weapons of high quality, hopefully bringing shamans into more positions of power over warlocks.
 
exactly, we can make shamanistic weapons of high quality, hopefully bringing shamans into more positions of power over warlocks.
Mmm, shamanistic enchanting won't help the shamans much - it might even make them obsolete, to a degree. What would help would be a weapon that requires basic shamanistic training to use properly.
 
I think anyone who thinks we're going to get out of this without making some quality weapons for the Orcs are being naive. Trying to avoid that will just piss of our goblin watchers for screwing around and get us ungodly eye-pain. The thing we want to be mindful about doing is revolutionizing things for the Orcs, not making good stuff.
Can you point out where anyone said to try and avoid making some quality weapons?
 
Can you point out where anyone said to try and avoid making some quality weapons?
There's been talk of tasers for orcs in a world of divine shields, magic armor, demons, and dragons to try and push them towards non-lethality and shields of "dubious utility". It seems to me like some people are trying to avoid actually making things that would realistically be of use, hence my comment.
 
There's been talk of tasers for orcs in a world of divine shields, magic armor, demons, and dragons to try and push them towards non-lethality and shields of "dubious utility". It seems to me like some people are trying to avoid actually making things that would realistically be of use, hence my comment.
The conflict might be ridiculous, but there are plenty of mortal combatants, and, more importantly, a whole bunch of split opinions within factions. Weapons for internal policing that don't kill people avoid the worst of the resentment, cement the rule of the guy in charge, etc. They wouldn't use tasers for open combat. They'd use them for policing, and for taking prisoners on the battlefield.
 
Personally let's use this opportunity to work on our shamanistic smithing and test out ideas that usually would be insane, like a suit of armor that lights the user on fire without hurting them.
 
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