Not all of it. Tarbards would be under tailoring off the top of my head. Heck we could even make enchanted banners with area effect enchantments. Like the stuff you see in warhammer fantasy. Or even capes with enchantments.
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Heaven Canceler
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I have read that there are flying carpets in Warcraft....
Leatherworkers make capes too.
Well yeah. Leather capes are a thing. Just like cloth capes are a thing.Leatherworkers make capes too.
Dont confuse warcraft crafting mechanics with how it works in this quest which draws from realism in how certain things are handled. Also we are talking about very different things.
Padding in this case(both in how I mean it and how such things actually work) means literally that - the stuff you add as "padding" on the inside of the armor so it will be more comfortable to wear.
You are thinking of reinforcement which is done with chain mail and leather in the spaces between the main armor in plate mail and similar setups like joints and gaps where you simply can not have full plate and still be able to move.
There is a very real difference between the two.
Edit: Padding can also work as shock absorbants if done properly.
Tabards aren't really armor. Capes and banners are a thing. There are things called spellthreads in warcraft that tailors can make to put into cloth armors to boost magic.
Yep, but they, like engineer's flying machines, require high skill, for obvious reasons.
That, quite frankly, sounds like a waste of time to pick up a skill for. From what we've seen our armors are already quite comfortable.
You do realize that knights used to wear tabards with their armor? Often over top of it?
Probably because they already include padding where relevant and clothing handles the rest(people who wear plate armor tend to wear a special sort of clothing underneath historically)?
Also you underestimate it - once we learn to work special effects into clothing/cloth it adds another layer of defense and boosting capability to the stuff we make.
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Surcoat's and tabard's while related are not exactly the same. There is a difference in cut and use.
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Heaven Canceler
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He probably had his own Cloth to wear under the armour to avoid it rubbing against his Body. I found a site with some info on what a Knight wears in Addition to the armour.
http://www.medieval-life-and-times.info/medieval-clothing/medieval-knight-clothing.htm
Tabards are coats. While they could be protective, they are not armor.
If i remember correctly people wore very thin clothing under armor (Never mind, Heaven Canceler ninja'd me with better info.) I can see how that could be beneficial, though I don't really think making clothes is the best way to go about it. I find picking up a skill we have barely any experience in without teacher or immediate need quite silly. If we want to give nice dress to Serenity I think we should order one instead of relying on the fashion sense of a hermit.
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You really don't know much about how knights dressed back in the day do you? Knights used to wear tabards with their heraldry over their armor. And as for wayland being a hermit he isn't. See him interacting with people when we do vote for it. At most you can say he get's caught up in his work. Also you don't think learning how to work cloth and clothes would be beneficial to adding enchantments to the clothes people wear beneath their armor would be useful? Where else do you think a skill like that falls under? It would allow us to add more to it with out having to compromise the armor or cut out other enchantments due to lack of room.
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Heaven Canceler
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Since leatherworking includes stuff like bones and Wood, I guess tailoring may also include working with for example shoes, so we could for example make "Boots of Swift Steps +1" or something. Or a "Cloak of Avoidance" which makes it easier to dodge stuff. A scarf that warms you or makes your voice louder or a dozen other things. It would be great if we could make something like the elven cloaks from Lord of the Rings.
Evillevi
A Pikachu for everything - Shadow Pikachu,2015
Two things
He is mostly a hermit since living in the most desolate area known to man with minimal company goes a long way to gaining that kind of title (and he fulfills a lot of the hermit tropes*).
Secondly IIRC way back when we were in Stormwind, we can't stack two different armors on top of one another as functionally Lost Star once said (in regards to leatherworking + Blacksmithing) that the primary component is what determines the armor type. So trying to stack metal on top of leather will eventually change the armor into Plate armor and removing it will revert it back to leather armor.
Now this doesn't mean that you can't synergise them. You can and we are explicitly allowed to do that. It's just that the reward you're implying we get is much higher than what we are likely to get.
*That he doesn't fill all doesn't mean the 'mostly' is an inaccurate qualifier
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Tabard is a type of coat. It's something people wore but not a piece of armor and I don't see that much use for learning to make some unless we need to in order to craft enchants into them.
As for calling Wayland hermit, it's mostly a joke. He hasn't been in civilization for years and drops by couple of settlements maybe once a month while receiving visitors a bit more often. Actually, even before that he lived in middle of nowhere. The time he spent in Stormwind was the sole point in his life when we was possibly in contact with fine clothing. My point was that I don't think Wayland knows what a nice dress looks like.
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Evillevi
A Pikachu for everything - Shadow Pikachu,2015
Omake fodder!
And you aren't listening again. People wore them over their armor. It's not that hard of a concept to grasp. Hell man at arms and soldiery wore them over their chainmail with their lords heraldry being on it. They were used as a means of identifying what house the knights were apart of and who their men belonged too.
Actually we do have access to a good example. @King Arthur Please make a post so I can use your avatar pic as an example?
So you don't think the blue dragon that takes pride in their ability to shapeshift and fit in among the other humaniod races won't know what good dress styles are?
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Er, although all of Tailoring, Leatherworking, and Blacksmithing can make shoes of various kinds because all three of those make full armor sets...
If you're going by "what makes sense" then I wouldn't put shoes under Tailoring. I'd put them under the profession that works leather.
Leatherworking.
(Basically; if we have Leatherworking, we can already make shoes.
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Evillevi
A Pikachu for everything - Shadow Pikachu,2015
I have no idea how people sell tabards over their armorYou know what I meant.
King Arthur
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Sure. Always glad to help.
Here's something interesting. Tabards are a thing in wow. I just googled searched knights wearing Tabards and it popped up with a blood elf wearing one.
Well thanks for the help. I just remembered taht your's doesn't have a tabard on his armor.
But yeah knights would wear that over their armor.
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Tabards had another use, namely protection against the sun. See if you wear plate mail in a very hot environment, such as a desert, you will overheat very quickly. So knights wore a tabard or a surcoat to protect themselve against the sun to make such situations much more bearable, since their armor would take far longer to heat up.
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I am, but I am quite sure we are talking past each other. I know what a tabard is but see no point in making one as they serve a mostly decorative purpose, so we can't really make a "better" tabard. I would assume the people wearing them get them made in their colours anyway. In WoW they are a purely aesthetic thing.
Oh, I have no doubt Tyrygosa can tell a nice piece of clothing from a shoddy one (she has shown interest in fashion in a way when she asked us to make that ear/horn ring) but we don't know how much she knows about making clothes. What she is know for, however, is that she isn't really interested in getting involved in mortal affairs. While her eye for beauty is something we can use, I'm not sure if our tailoring is up to her standards.
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That's nice that they are a purely cosmetic thing in WoW. Guess what? this quest is somewhat realistic when it comes to crafting. And as for them serving mostly decorative purpose no they weren't. They were used for many different things. Keeping the sun off the armor was one. Identification was another. Hell they were used by knights in the winter to keep warm. And when you added in the fact we can enchant cloth they no doubt serve an even more important purpose in this quest then they did IRL. Like I said if there are enchantments we want to put on the armor but can't due to lack of room we can always stick them on the cloth they wear underneath or the tabards.
Beyond Tabards however there is the stuff we can make for mages and priests. If we work at it I bet we could enchant cloth to be as durable as plate mail. Maybe as durable as some of the stronger metals in this game.
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