Putting the Craft in Warcraft

The first one is. It exploded, that's why the Maelstrom exists; that's where it was.

Illidan made a new one, the dumb motherfucker. That's why Nordrassil exists, the Night Elves and Aspects said "FUCK THAT NOISE! Gonna cover this shit up right quick." and grew the World Tree over it.
It admittedly never occured to me that you can blow the second Well up.
 
So basically, the Greater Well of Eternity (the original) is gone, but now there's the Lesser Well of Eternity in Kalimdor (not quite as potent as the original, but very close) and the Sunwell in Quel'thalas (the least potent of the three, which means that it's just the smallest font of infinite magic).
 
It admittedly never occured to me that you can blow the second Well up.
You could. If you wanted a second, slightly smaller Maelstrom, and to sink the entire continent of Kalimdor.


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That's technically what the Night Elves did to Archimonde.
Blew up their well of eternity and the World Tree connected to it.

That seems to be the elves solution to demons. Blowing up their wells.
Uh, no. They sacrificed their immortality, and almost all of the primal magic infused into Nordrassil, to blow up Archimonde.

If they had exploded the Well, they'd have blown up the entire continent they live on.
 
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Here's something that's been on my mind for a while and wouldn't let go. And, Lost, yes this would be why I asked about Runecloth and Sailcloth.

:redface: Like I said, dragon fanatic.
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Wayland looked over his fellow captive from a safe distance with a frown. What was going on here, something within him just screamed that it was wrong. Wayland was a crafter. He brought things from the "Could Be" into the "Is." This dragon, Alexstrasza, she called herself, she would alternate between great fury at the entire world, and almost helplessness, and even a toddler could tell that what was happening with her was wrong. And crafters tried to build solutions to problems. And he was working on that.

But that wasn't the only thing. He didn't quite get what "Life Binder" meant, but on some level she had this "bearing" about her might be the right word, though it felt... inadequate. Even here in this place, whether in full fury or the deepest depression there was something about her that made Wayland think of Lothar or the King. This was someone that he wanted to make a masterwork for. Wayland wasn't totally sure at first what he'd want to make one such as her--who ever heard of dragons wielding swords? (Well then again, just a five sentence chat with her had more than doubled his knowledge of dragons so maybe they did?)

But as he thought on it armor did seem like it was a viable option. "Life Binder" and all that seemed to at least imply protection or some such so she probably wouldn't mind too terribly. But then he didn't know if dragons forged their own armor. It was probably something to shelve. It wouldn't get either of them out of there, but maybe... It might give her something else to focus on if only for a bit. A fight of fancy as it were. So he brought it up.

"Ya' know," Wayland began while the large dragon was in a more subdued mood. "When we get outa here, if you'd like I really would want 'ta make ya an armor."

That actually got her to crack an eye open, as if to silently ask, 'Are you serious? ...Or just that stupid?'

"I mean I don't know if ya've already got one, but... Since I was a tot' 've always been fixated on building things. Our village was way out in the swamps none around for miles. But our village blacksmith, he's a dwarf see n' fer whatev'r reason he took a shine t' me. An' so he'd show me things. Mostly how t' patch up the local farm tools 'cuz that's pretty much the only jobs ya' get that far out, well that an' making arrow heads.

"But he'd go over other thins with me too. Stuff that'd never come up at home. How ta' make an' fix weapons, armor. How ta tell the quality of a metal and how to distinguish between 'em. How ta' work with stone metals an singin ones. An' sometime durin this I got a idea in my head. What I wanted t do, what I wanted more th'n anythin', I wanted to make things so good the biggest names in all the world would line up at my door for me to make them somethin', anythin'! So I threw myself into what he was teaching me.

"An' with what he taught me... It got me a job at Stormwind," then unsure if the dragon knew or cared about human politics, he elaborated, "the capital. An' a couple o lucky breaks an there I was making a set o armor for the best known knight in all the land, on the king's commission no less! An I made my best work t' date. But see, I'm not done. An' I refuse to let that single job stand alone as my legacy.

"So, when we get out of here, Miss Alexstrasza, will you do me the honor of getting to make somethin' for you? I--er already have something in mind if you want to hear about it. I'd use Thorium to protect you'r chest n' core area. Thorium's a real sturdy metal and got some great properties for defense against magic.

For you're arms and such well, I'd really love to use a metal I just heard about, Orcs call it "Truesteel," they dunno how to make the bloody stuff anymore though which is a shame. But I know I c'n work it out. But I've seen some thin's made from it an it's properties are awesome! See it's a real strong metal, like Thorium, an' it really reacts well when you try an' channel... dunno the technical terms for it but Shaman or Nature or... One o those kinds of Fire and Wind! And I hear dragons are real good with fire and your wings make me think you'd also really be able to use wind so maybe you could do something real nice with those.

"An I don't know how strong yur claws are, but I could inlay the metal nearby em' with Truesilver an some different types of aligned Mythril t' hopefully give 'em some different kinds of punch when ya' need or want it.

"An with you're wings... I guess I'd use small segments of Wind aligned Mythril to cover the... I don't even know what to call that... The thickest parts of your wings, that are in the front? 'Cause it looks to me like that's what's holding the rest of the wing together, an Mythril's really light. An' for the rest of the wing... I'd guess I'd use Runecloth, 'cause that's the strongest thing I can think of that wouldn't sacrifice you'r manuverabilty in the air for more penetrating defense. Best defense is not to get hit, am I right?"

...And the smith rambled on talking about the materials he'd use and the enchantments that he'd add, and sometime into it Alexstrasza had to rethink just how serious he was about getting them both out.
 
We keep learning Goblin Engineering and she'd have side-mounted rocket pods too.

"I AM ALEXSTRASZA, THE LIFE BINDER. I GUARD THE BONDS THAT CONNECT US ALL."

*rockets priming*

"AND I CAN BREAK THEM JUST AS WELL."
 
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So... I want to be declared Dragon Friend or whatever to the Red Flight. Seems like it'd have some major benefits that we can use for enchanting, :)
 
So... I want to be declared Dragon Friend or whatever to the Red Flight. Seems like it'd have some major benefits that we can use for enchanting, :)
There's a slight chance we might become immortal. However that depends if they bless us or something. I forget which flight give which. Either time or life give immortality.
 
So if Wayland learned the soul arts would he be able steal a small piece of Alexstraza soul from the demon soul? I do not actually expect this to happen but I'm just wondering how to get the Rage achivement.
 
There's a slight chance we might become immortal. However that depends if they bless us or something. I forget which flight give which. Either time or life give immortality.
Immortality is time. I'm pretty sure. Actually can't remember what Life was, I think she just created the World Tree actually, and the other aspects blessed it.

With Ysera giving the elves the connection to the dream and time giving the elves immortality as long as the tree stood.
 
Immortality is time. I'm pretty sure. Actually can't remember what Life was, I think she just created the World Tree actually, and the other aspects blessed it.

With Ysera giving the elves the connection to the dream and time giving the elves immortality as long as the tree stood.
And you think the rest wouldn't bless us for destroying the demon soul and saving Alexstrasva?
 
The consensus is either enchanting the iron before we make it steel. Or we do it slowly or something.
Nothing else we can do other than see how it turns out though.
 


The dragons don't "bless" people. The only time something like that happened, was at the creation of the World Tree 10,000 years ago, and that was using magic that tied the Night Elves to Nordrassil as its keepers and as a thanks for saving the entire world at the cost of 2/3rds of its landmass and the loss of most of their race.

If you go into this expecting to be "blessed" by the dragons, you're going to be disappointed. If you expect anything beyond the goodwill of the people you help, you're probably going to be disappointed.

I don't understand why rescuing people from enslavement, systematic rape, and the theft of their children to be raised as child soldiers with an expiration date measured in less than a decade that terminates fatally should earn you a reward. Why would you even need one?! The reward is an end to the dragons' enslavement, rape, and watching their children die over and over again while being forced to slaughter thousands of people.
 


The dragons don't "bless" people. The only time something like that happened, was at the creation of the World Tree 10,000 years ago, and that was using magic that tied the Night Elves to Nordrassil as its keepers and as a thanks for saving the entire world at the cost of 2/3rds of its landmass and the loss of most of their race.

If you go into this expecting to be "blessed" by the dragons, you're going to be disappointed. If you expect anything beyond the goodwill of the people you help, you're probably going to be disappointed.

I don't understand why rescuing people from enslavement, systematic rape, and the theft of their children to be raised as child soldiers with an expiration date measured in less than a decade that terminates fatally should earn you a reward. Why would you even need one?! The reward is an end to the dragons' enslavement, rape, and watching their children die over and over again while being forced to slaughter thousands of people.
I don't expect to be blessed or anything like that but pointed it out as a possible reward if we actually manage to destroy the demon soul. Doing so would put all the flights back to full strength. And there's the fact that wayland would be doing it because it's the right thing to do. Not because he was tasked with freeing Alexstrasva.
 
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The most likely reward, such as there would be one, would be the goodwill from the red, green, and bronze dragonflights. That's basically all that can be realistically expected.

And that should be more than enough, really. Dragons favoring Wayland would open a lot of doors for him; they are present in the northern kingdoms all over the place, and many of them are thousands of years old. The knowledge from chatting with them in a friendly setting would likely give Wayland tremendous insight into things he's only vaguely aware of now; magic styles and influences, locations of significance, locations of interesting resources...knowledge of the factual existence of Kalimdor and the races that live there...
 
On Truesteel. Forgive me for not answering any more questions on it. It's meant to be a very hidden thing that you won't get for awhile. I will tell you if you get it exactly right, but there are several steps in the process, so you might be getting parts of it down, but not the rest.

For that omake. It's a good one :)

Rage - Craft Alexstrasza's Rage - Your first legendary. Built using Soul magic, ______
 
On Truesteel. Forgive me for not answering any more questions on it. It's meant to be a very hidden thing that you won't get for awhile. I will tell you if you get it exactly right, but there are several steps in the process, so you might be getting parts of it down, but not the rest.

For that omake. It's a good one :)

Rage - Craft Alexstrasza's Rage - Your first legendary. Built using Soul magic, ______
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For the enemies of course
 
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