King Tharassian
Governor-Militant
- Location
- Victory Bay, Kronus
Puella Magica Somniabunt Sanguinis [PMMM/Bloodborne]
- Thread starter Origami Clock
- Start date
- Crossover
- Location
- The Garden
If we don't lie then we won't be caught in one and people tend to fill in the blanks as long as the story isn't obnoxiously vague.
[X] We met in the Hospital!
- [X] Be the happy little flower we are about recovering and being let out.
- [X] If pressed, let them know Homura's reasons are her own but we got hit by a car.
[X] We met in the Hospital!
- [X] Be the happy little flower we are about recovering and being let out.
- [X] If pressed, let them know Homura's reasons are her own but we got hit by a car.
Origami Clock
Right twice a day
- Location
- Brighton, UK
Ive come down with something naty, so i doubt ill get an update done today. hopefully ill be feeling better tomorrow.
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Dark Abstraction
Infrequent Participant
- Location
- United States
I'm always down for Bloodborne stuff, and this seems incredibly promising.
[X] We met in the Hospital!
- [X] Be the happy little flower we are about recovering and being let out.
- [X] If pressed, let them know Homura's reasons are her own but we got hit by a car.
[X] We met in the Hospital!
- [X] Be the happy little flower we are about recovering and being let out.
- [X] If pressed, let them know Homura's reasons are her own but we got hit by a car.
- Location
- NYC
I feel like Hospital is upfront the truth but will force us to create a more elaborate backstory later on once people start wondering why we're living with Homura and such, whereas Catholic school gives us reasons for why we're living with Homura, why we're close, and why we don't have parents implicitly. Upfront a lie, but less explanation needed, and less chance of getting caught in a lie.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
We don't need to explain the story, though. By the point we get where it'd be within the bounds of politeness to talk about it, they'd be in on the magic thing.
HymnOfRagnarok
Let's Rock
Not sure about that. We can do a much better job of keeping bunnycat and magic under wraps, while I can see several ways to unravel the hospital backstory even without Kyubey involvement. Madoka being nurse officer and following up on us, hitting it off with Homura and visiting...
Also, even if they learn about magic, we do not want to have to tell them we're an alien if we can help it. That raises too many questions. Which means avoid revealing our Jane Doe status if we can help it.
Basically, avoid giving Madoka and Sayaka anything to follow up on. Like the Nurse officer stuff, or Sayaka asking around about us while she visits Kyousuke.
Most of those are relatively low risk, but they pile up, and they are things they are in position to follow up on.
King Tharassian
Governor-Militant
- Location
- Victory Bay, Kronus
For their question, or our response?
King Tharassian
Governor-Militant
- Location
- Victory Bay, Kronus
Besides.
We aren't advocating for that kind of transparency.
We aren't advocating for that kind of transparency.
HymnOfRagnarok
Let's Rock
Actually, everyone voting to potentially tell them we were in a car crash?
Kinda is.
- Location
- Blocksberg
I feel like you all are being way too paranoid.
The mains of PMMM aren't some super-sleuths who go around peeling apart statements looking for nuggets of truth. They won't try to pick apart a reasonable response to an innocent question. Plus, both of the votes are pretty much "shit happened, none of your business." And in Japan, it's pretty rude to impose and stick your nose into business that isn't yours.
Oh, and here's a good way to avoid people getting too much info: just don't talk about it. If you give a satisfactory initial response, then I doubt that most would dig much further than that, especially with the implication that it was a bad time and you're moving on.
Anyway, my vote.
[X] We met in the Hospital!
- [X] Be the happy little flower we are about recovering and being let out.
- [X] Don't be too specific about things like reasons for being there. If pressed, say that we were involved in an accident and make it obvious that we don't want to talk about it.
I think the hospital is a good choice, because it's mostly truthful and makes it so that others probably won't dig too much. Remember, Sayaka & Co. currently have a friend who's in long-term care because of an accident, and a car crash is what forced Mami's wish and killed her family.
The mains of PMMM aren't some super-sleuths who go around peeling apart statements looking for nuggets of truth. They won't try to pick apart a reasonable response to an innocent question. Plus, both of the votes are pretty much "shit happened, none of your business." And in Japan, it's pretty rude to impose and stick your nose into business that isn't yours.
Oh, and here's a good way to avoid people getting too much info: just don't talk about it. If you give a satisfactory initial response, then I doubt that most would dig much further than that, especially with the implication that it was a bad time and you're moving on.
Anyway, my vote.
[X] We met in the Hospital!
- [X] Be the happy little flower we are about recovering and being let out.
- [X] Don't be too specific about things like reasons for being there. If pressed, say that we were involved in an accident and make it obvious that we don't want to talk about it.
I think the hospital is a good choice, because it's mostly truthful and makes it so that others probably won't dig too much. Remember, Sayaka & Co. currently have a friend who's in long-term care because of an accident, and a car crash is what forced Mami's wish and killed her family.
- Location
- NYC
It's not so much what Madoka/Sayaka/etc will say in response to this particular answer at this particular time, but rather, what paths our answer here open or close in the future.
For example, here's the likely immediate outcome for either of these two plans. It'll probably go something like this.
Ruby: "We met in the hospital!"/"We went to the same Catholic school!"
Sayaka: "Oh, okay."
And yes, that'll be it for this particular interaction. The immediate outcome for these plans is the same. There's no big difference, no one's going to become a detective on us at this moment.
However, what about in the future? Assuming we're going to try to be friends with the Madoka crew, we're gonna be grabbing lunch with them and getting to know them and them getting to know us and all. Inevitably, they'll ask us what neighborhood we live in.
if Catholic School, we can say that we live with Homura without raising any eyebrows. If Hospital, however, our answer to this question becomes more complicated. Do we lie? Do we give some neighborhood, without really knowing what neighborhood we live in/what neighborhoods there are in Mitakihara? Also, if we become friends with Madoka and crew, what if they want to visit our place to hang out? We'll have to go to Homura's place, and that'll raise questions as to why we're living with Homura if we met her in the hospital, or just keep refusing with vague reasons, which doesn't seem to jive with Ruby's personality.
For example, here's the likely immediate outcome for either of these two plans. It'll probably go something like this.
Ruby: "We met in the hospital!"/"We went to the same Catholic school!"
Sayaka: "Oh, okay."
And yes, that'll be it for this particular interaction. The immediate outcome for these plans is the same. There's no big difference, no one's going to become a detective on us at this moment.
However, what about in the future? Assuming we're going to try to be friends with the Madoka crew, we're gonna be grabbing lunch with them and getting to know them and them getting to know us and all. Inevitably, they'll ask us what neighborhood we live in.
if Catholic School, we can say that we live with Homura without raising any eyebrows. If Hospital, however, our answer to this question becomes more complicated. Do we lie? Do we give some neighborhood, without really knowing what neighborhood we live in/what neighborhoods there are in Mitakihara? Also, if we become friends with Madoka and crew, what if they want to visit our place to hang out? We'll have to go to Homura's place, and that'll raise questions as to why we're living with Homura if we met her in the hospital, or just keep refusing with vague reasons, which doesn't seem to jive with Ruby's personality.
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- Location
- Somewhere!
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Some voters seem interested in not lying to people, and that was part of the initial idea for hospital buddies, that it's directly true?
So that means we can't, or might not want to, just lie if they ask where in town we live.
- Location
- america
.....the best lie is no lie at all, exept when it does not work. then you lie.
HymnOfRagnarok
Let's Rock
As much as I normally advocate honesty as the best policy, this really is not the time. The truth causes more problems than it solves, as it comes out.
It's preferable to give an answer that fits the shape of what relationship we're selling. We want to convince them we're friends and how we met, while also providing a connection for why Ruby is living with Homura, because that's fairly likely to show up.
Being old friends who were orphans together fits that image better than, met at a hospital, became BFFs, moved in together. Cause I would have a lot more questions about how this improbable series of evens came to be, even just out of interest in a good story.
Which is a story we don't want to tell, because Homura and Ruby's true circumstances are so unbelievable, and we'd have a hard time coming up with a more realistic yet still believable basis for this level of friendship.
These girls aren't super-sleuths (well, Madoka and Sayaka aren't, jury's out on this magical Hitomi), but we can reasonably expect them to run into some events. Madoka's nurse officer thing, all of them maybe wanting to visit, or asking where Ruby or Homura live, and or Ruby's family situation...
Orphan backstory frames that better. And gives us more room to fill in the blanks. If our stay in a hospital comes up, we can fold it into the overall backstory as needed.
Presentation matters. Take Obi-wan. Tells Luke Darth Vader killed his father. True, from a certain point of view. But if Obi-wan had just straight up told Luke the truth? Well, Luke probably would have tried something stupid like join the Empire, or try to talk to Dad, and fail at the redemption because Luke can't stand up to Vader when he says get in line boy.
In this case, Obi-wan did Luke a greater service with his creative interpretation of the truth.
And this is dragging on too long.
tl;dr Telling the truth here can do more harm than good. Instead focus on presenting a believable enough backstory that's not outright falsehood, but suits our purpose for this introduction future interactions.
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King Tharassian
Governor-Militant
- Location
- Victory Bay, Kronus
Agreed. That's why I switched to Catholic School.
- Location
- Blocksberg
Some good points about the issues with the hospital story all around, but the orphanage explanation still has some similar logic holes. Really, why would we be living with Homura?
The orphanage we supposedly shared is in Tokyo. Homura probably only lives in Mitakihara because of her heart condition. She was likely transferred to Mitakihara's hospital for treatment, enrolled in MMS so she could continue her education while staying close by for checkups, and was given an apartment so she didn't have to take up hospital space after she was cleared to leave. What's our excuse for living here, with Homura? How and why did we move cities? Why aren't we still in the orphanage or living in our own place? Did we run away from the orphanage or something?
Neither explanation really holds up well under long-term scrutiny, and IMO, they don't have to. Whatever we choose just needs to work for a couple of weeks at most, by which point everyone important will probably know about magic and we can reveal some more about ourself. If we're still playing at this charade in several weeks' time IC, then I have to ask both what the hell we're doing right and what the hell we're doing wrong.
The orphanage we supposedly shared is in Tokyo. Homura probably only lives in Mitakihara because of her heart condition. She was likely transferred to Mitakihara's hospital for treatment, enrolled in MMS so she could continue her education while staying close by for checkups, and was given an apartment so she didn't have to take up hospital space after she was cleared to leave. What's our excuse for living here, with Homura? How and why did we move cities? Why aren't we still in the orphanage or living in our own place? Did we run away from the orphanage or something?
Neither explanation really holds up well under long-term scrutiny, and IMO, they don't have to. Whatever we choose just needs to work for a couple of weeks at most, by which point everyone important will probably know about magic and we can reveal some more about ourself. If we're still playing at this charade in several weeks' time IC, then I have to ask both what the hell we're doing right and what the hell we're doing wrong.
Spectral Waltz
Scatterbrained Writer
- Location
- Walking the Endless Corridors
...Guys can we chill maybe?
I'm starting to agree with the people saying we're overanalyzing this.
It's an introduction.
Having our story straight overall is nice, but we literally just need to say how we met at this point, and either option (hospital or 'catholic school') is not exactly the sort of option that invites further prying.
Just calm the fuck down and vote for your preference. This argument is going in circles.
EDIT: Realized I forgot to vote myself.
[X] We met in the Hospital!
- [X] Be the happy little flower we are about recovering and being let out.
- [X] If pressed, let them know Homura's reasons are her own but we got hit by a car.
I'm starting to agree with the people saying we're overanalyzing this.
It's an introduction.
Having our story straight overall is nice, but we literally just need to say how we met at this point, and either option (hospital or 'catholic school') is not exactly the sort of option that invites further prying.
Just calm the fuck down and vote for your preference. This argument is going in circles.
EDIT: Realized I forgot to vote myself.
[X] We met in the Hospital!
- [X] Be the happy little flower we are about recovering and being let out.
- [X] If pressed, let them know Homura's reasons are her own but we got hit by a car.
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kinigget
Best Demon
- Location
- People's Republic of Portland
at this point, you have to seriously ask yourself "what is the worst thing that could happen if I say this", and then be honest with the results
because honestly, the way some of you are talking it's like you expect something terrible to happen unless we have a foolproof backstory
Sayka doesn't really care, Madoka doesn't really care, they're kinda curious, but that's probably about it
I'm going for "we met in the hospital" because it's the most true thing we can say, and because it doesn't overcomplicate things
because honestly, the way some of you are talking it's like you expect something terrible to happen unless we have a foolproof backstory
Sayka doesn't really care, Madoka doesn't really care, they're kinda curious, but that's probably about it
I'm going for "we met in the hospital" because it's the most true thing we can say, and because it doesn't overcomplicate things
[X] We met in the Hospital!
- [X] Be the happy little flower we are about recovering and being let out.
- [X] Don't be too specific about things like reasons for being there. If pressed, say that we were involved in an accident and make it obvious that we don't want to talk about it.
Perfectly sufficient, and it has the advantage of actually being true.
- [X] Be the happy little flower we are about recovering and being let out.
- [X] Don't be too specific about things like reasons for being there. If pressed, say that we were involved in an accident and make it obvious that we don't want to talk about it.
Perfectly sufficient, and it has the advantage of actually being true.
- Location
- NYC
Yeah for the orphanage story to be pulled off we'll probably have to pass off Homura's apartment as our apartment, with Homura moving in after transferring hospitals here.
You're right that we don't have an explanation for why we moved cities though, that's a good point. It's the kind of question that comes up pretty easily in conversation as well, probably in the list of the Top 3 Small Talk Getting To Know You Questions, and it'd be weird if we don't have an answer to that.
Oh yeah for sure, I agree with you there that neither of them actually care about our answer to this question. Still if we're becoming friends with them it's gonna be something that'll affect short-term interactions with them before they find out about magic and what we are and stuff, mainly what immediate paths our backstory open up in later conversations with them, and what framework they'll initially fit our answers to. Basically trying to figure out which backstory avoids triggering more of the 'huh, but she said xyz earlier?' kinda thoughts that damage trust in the short term. The long term effects probably aren't gonna be like, huge or anything.