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He's certainly different from your average Incubator. But what is his motive, aside from killing the devil? What's in it for him?
 
So to clarify.

We have all the upsides of being a Magical Girl, with none of the downsides.

This is all at the cost of our power having been effectively stolen from the very entity we're trying to kill, who probably knows it got stolen. OOC we know it's Homura, and considering the amount of suffering she's gone through by the time she goes Akumura.....damn we're powerful.
 
[x] Aside from killing the devil, what is your motive? What's in it for you?
[x] Why do the Incubators do what they do? Do you share the same goals as them?
[X] Leave through the window and into the city, you need to ponder on what you have just heard.

Including akrasiel's vote.
 
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This is so straight forward that I'm...actually lost, I didn't expected this.

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"I don't see how that's relevant." He answers. You tilt you head to the side and look at him, remaining silent. "Alright! Fine! It's complicated okay! Technically he knows I exist but right now he doesn't know that I'm active."
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So he's basically an emergency measure for the incubators, could justify his rather odd behaviour.


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"FINALLY!" Ryubey cheers. "The boy asks something important! Yes!" He jumps about in joy for a bit before settling again. "Right, quick answer is yes. Long answer is longer. Not only did we come back in time but we also have gone back through two universal resets. That means that the entire universe got changed not only in the present but also retroactively twice, once by the Devil and once by something else that I don't know."

"What does retroactively mean?"

Ryubey glares at you. "Don't interrupt me when I'm on a roll! Uhg. Retroactively means that the entirety of history was overwritten. Now time travel is possible with magic, if extremely difficult, but there's no way to go back to a previous universe, not even with a wish. At least not normally but luckily, I cheat." He preens, sounding very impressed with himself.

"Get to the point." You demand.

"Right, sorry. So, practical answer. The Devil has her memories of what happened in this universe. If you change things too much before killing her, her memories will change and she'll realize something's up. If that happens she'll probably send her servants back to check out what's up and deal with you. I doubt there's anything that'd make her come back in time to deal with you herself. She's too obsessed with your sister to leave her for even a second."
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It was a good thing we warned the rest about the Clara Dolls, but we should gather more allies in case she tries to send them all.

RexHeller said:
"Ummmmmm." Ryubey hums to himself and looks at the ceiling. You guess he's thinking of what to say. "How much did Kyubey explain about the magic system to you?"

"Not much. 'Make contract, get magic' was about it." You answer.

"Right well, skipping over the details for now, I've basically rigged the deck in your favor. Not only should you be more powerful then every Magical Girl ever but you also don't have any of the downsides. If you want more details than that feel free to ask but it's sort of complicated. Oh! And you you're sort of permanently transformed."

Well you'd wondered about that last bit. Now you know. "Any suggestion on how to train my magic?"

"Fuck if I know. The way I work magic and the way you work magic are probably completely different."
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Why am I not surprised we don't have an answer yet? Well, we will do this the traditional way.

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Well that was informative. Next question. "Do I need Grief Seeds? If not, why do Magical Girls need them?"

"Nah, you don't need Grief Seeds. No Soul Gem. Magical Girls need them to not turn into Witches."

You're shocked by his nonchalance. "What."

"Yeah, if a Magical Girl's Soul Gem gets completely filled with Grief it shatters and gives birth to a Witch. It's one of the many things that Kyubey doesn't actually tell the girls he contracts with. "

"What."

"Yep! There's lots the little shit doesn't tell them. Like the fact that their Soul Gems are their actual souls. He rips 'em right out of their chests. You'd be surprised how many girls think it's just a metaphor. And the kicker is that he doesn't technically lie. He's actually can't tell a untrue fact, it's literally impossible for him."

"What." You say a third time. Ryubey starts to talk again but you hold up your hand to stop him. What you've just be told, it's disturbing. You need time to process this but right now isn't the time.
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Ok, we have been both lich and witchbombed, I have to admit I didn't expected Ryubey to be so honest about it. At least that gives him some points above Kyubey.


RexHeller said:
You still don't trust Ryubey, hell it might even be lying about everything, so until he leaves you're just going to put the Witch thing aside for now and thing about it later. For now, you'll keep asking questions. "How long do I have to kill the Devil? How long before she becomes all power full? How much do you remember about this time?"

"Slow down there cowboy! One question at a time!" Ryubey say, laughing. "To answer your last question first, nothing. I wasn't active during this time so I have no personal memories of what's going on here. As for how long you have, I'd say you have about a month before the first cosmic reset. After that, you might be able to kill the Devil or you might not, I have no idea. I have no information about that universe. The second reset is when the Devil takes over so you need to kill her by then at the very latest but you really should find and murder her as quickly as possible.

A month, huh? You'd like to say that's plenty of time but you have no idea how hard it'll be to find her.
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Like Homura, we have Walpurgisnacht as our time limit.

RexHeller said:
Speaking of which, maybe Ryubey has a clue."Any idea how I can find the Devil?"

Ryubey's eyes light up with joy and his smarmy smirk grows into a huge grin. "I though you'd never ask. You might want to sit down for this, it's a long story and I'm quite proud of it so you're getting the whole thing. No short version for you."

"I'll stand."

"Suit yourself." He shrugs and dives right into his story. "First off, remember how I said I wasn't going to go into detail on how magic works? Forget that, you need to know this to understand how genius I am. The two important things about magic are how much karmic potential you have and that hope and despair have to equal out to zero. Let's start with karmic potential."

"Karmic potential is how much you'll change the world over the course of your life if magic doesn't get involved. For example, someone who's going to grow up to rule a nation is going to have a ton of potential while someone who's going to grow up to be a homeless ne'er-do-well won't have much at all. Karmic potential determines how much magical power there is available to you. When a Magical Girl makes a wish it's vital that she doesn't wish over her karmic potential otherwise bad things happen as the universe slams them for being greedy."

"Now about hope and despair balancing out. When a Magical Girl makes a wish that generates a certain amount of hope that depends on their karmic potential as well as exactly what the wish is. After the wish is made the universe is going to keep making them suffer until they've endured an amount of despair equal to the hope generated by the wish. To summarize, the higher your karmic potential the more magic you can use and the more power you get from magic the more you suffer."

"I don't see what this has to do with finding the Devil." You say, interrupting the impromptu lecture on magical physics.

"Bear with me here, this is important. Let's switch gears for a bit. Now you already know that the Devil sort of broke physics in the future. Well she also broke magic or at least she loosened the rules a little. After that, all it took was a little creativity and cleverness on my part and I's able to pretty much do what I wanted as long as I was smart. As it turns out, breaking the system is pretty easy if you know what your doing. However just because I was free to fuck around with magic as much as I wanted, that didn't mean I could take on the Devil. She was still in control and I was only able to do what I wanted because she couldn't be bothered to swat me like a bug. If I wanted her dead I'd need someone to do the dirty work. Which brings us to you."

"To be entirely frank, your karmic potential sucked. I don't know about before the cosmic resets but in the world you grew up in you were never going to be anyone important. If you made a wish the traditional way you likely would have been one of the weakest Magical Girls ever and not just because you're a boy. However, you were still the best candidate in every other respect so I had to do what I do best: cheat."

You roll your eyes. "Still not seeing what this has to do with finding the Devil."

"INTERUPT ME AGAIN KIDDO! SEE WHAT HAPPENS!" Ryubey yells at you forcefully. He coughs a small cough and goes right back to lecturing as if that didn't just happen. "As I was saying, your potential sucked. So I stole someone else's. Bettcha can't guess who. C'mon guess!"

"I don't know, the Devil?" You respond sarcastically.

"EXACTLY RIGHT! THE DEVIL!" Ryubey yells again, this time in joy instead of anger. "I managed to steal the karmic potential of the girl who could control the entire universe, the single most important person ever! And I used to make you the single most badass magical motherfucker in the world! But wait, there's more! Not only did I steal her potential, but all that suffering you would have gone through to pay for all that magic power? I made sure that the Devil would suffer instead. Of course I had to do it retroactively so that she wouldn't notice and smite the two of us."

"And that's how you're going to find the Devil. By this point in time most, if not all of the despair she's been suffering through should be done. So all you need to do is find the Magical Girl that's suffered the most and kill her by the end of the month. Simple right?" Ryubey finishes, looking extremely proud of himself.
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...Aside from the obvious, we have to be VERY careful around Homura, she probably is more prone to go Homulilly if we take one wrong step and will most likely act far more desperate towards Madoka.

Something tells me Ryubey has a hidden agenda of sorts so asking him what do he gain out of this won't result in an honest answer, most likely...but that's better than nothing I guess.


[X] Aside from killing the devil, what is your motive? What's in it for you?
[X] Why do the Incubators do what they do? Do you share the same goals as them?
[X] Leave through the window and into the city, you need to ponder on what you have just heard.
 
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[X] Aside from killing the devil, what is your motive? What's in it for you?
[X] Why do the Incubators do what they do? Do you share the same goals as them?
[X] Leave through the window and into the city, you need to ponder on what you have just heard.
 
[X] *Facepalm* You're aware that "suffering" is subjective and not easily measurable, yes? This will not be simple.
[X] Once I've found someone I think is the Devil, is there any way for either of us to confirm this? Or do I just shoot anyone who might possibly meet the bill? Cos that seems like it might attract Future!Devil's attention.
[X] On that note, I'm guessing that I should a) keep quiet about my backstory around depressed magical girls, and b) avoid making too much of a mess until I'm sure I've found the Devil. Any other tips for staying off Her radar?
[X] Speaking of depressed magical girls, is there anything I can do to help them stop witching out?
[X] Wait, the Devil is obsessed with my sister, right? Does that mean that she is someone Madoka already knows?
[X] Aside from killing the Devil, what is your motive? What's in it for you?
[X] Why do the Incubators do what they do? Do you share the same goals as them?
[X] What's going to happen to me once I've killed the Devil? Do I stay here? Jump back to the future? Evaporate?
[X] Leave through the window and into the city, you need to ponder on what you have just heard.

Including all teh questionz.

RexHeller said:
"And that's how you're going to find the Devil. By this point in time most, if not all of the despair she's been suffering through should be done. So all you need to do is find the Magical Girl that's suffered the most and kill her by the end of the month. Simple right?" Ryubey finishes, looking extremely proud of himself.
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Welp, Kyouko is screwed.
 
[x] Do you know what the Devil looks like?
[x] Will killing that magical girl actually harm the Devil?
[x] What changed between the current timeline and the one after the retroactive changes.
 
[X] *Facepalm* You're aware that "suffering" is subjective and not easily measurable, yes? This will not be simple.
[X] Once I've found someone I think is the Devil, is there any way for either of us to confirm this? Or do I just shoot anyone who might possibly meet the bill? Cos that seems like it might attract Future!Devil's attention.
[X] On that note, I'm guessing that I should a) keep quiet about my backstory around depressed magical girls, and b) avoid making too much of a mess until I'm sure I've found the Devil. Any other tips for staying off Her radar?
[X] Speaking of depressed magical girls, is there anything I can do to help them stop witching out?
[X] Wait, the Devil is obsessed with my sister, right? Does that mean that she is someone Madoka already knows?
[X] Aside from killing the Devil, what is your motive? What's in it for you?
[X] Why do the Incubators do what they do? Do you share the same goals as them?
[X] What's going to happen to me once I've killed the Devil? Do I stay here? Jump back to the future? Evaporate?
[X] Leave through the window and into the city, you need to ponder on what you have just heard.
 
LostDeviljho said:
But Koko suffered the most. :cry: My poor ship...
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Nope, Homura suffered the most, no possibility of contesting it. Literally everything Kyouko had to go through, but repeated many multiples of times, always with new and exciting ways to make her suffer even more.

Still doesn't mean that she did nothing wrong.
 
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