Keani
C̵͍̈t̷̼̓h̴̀ͅŭ̶̹l̴̡̈u̸̫͗ ̶̟͌F̵͚́h̶̠͊t̶͍͌ă̷̺g̴̯̊n̷
- Location
- R͈̥̲̦͍͓͗̽̈́̚'̞ͧ͛ͥ̄l̫̰̤̖̽̐y͍̲ͧ̒́̐̌̀e̪͆h̸̩͔̟ͣ͐͐̎ͤ
point, I'll go 50% nonvital land.
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Oglethorpe's dream: A Colony of Georgia quest
- Thread starter Lovemuffin
- Start date
- Original Alt. History Historic
VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
- Location
- Anywhere but RL
[x] Plan Migration
-[x] Native Deal: Negotiate the deal and see if the colony can secure fertile plains and river side lands. We are willing to take only 60% of total land instead of their proposed 70%. It is of course preferable if they will consolidate their land in larger masses to avoid future land right problems.
-[x] More Migrants: Spread the news opportunities presented in Georgia everywhere. We got land for the honest and hardworking.
-[x] Even more migrants: Spread news of plentiful Georgian land further in Europe. There's bound to be people eager for a new life in the new world.
-[X] Prospect: Prospect and survey Georgia lands to determine the best way to further develop in line with our culture and determine best rates of expansion and immigration. If possible also look into what communities would be most recipient to the notion of immigrating to Georgia and to the ideals of the colony such that promotion of the colony can be better targeted.
-[X] Permanence of Recovery Powers: Noting the success of the recovery efforts try to form a more permanent system in place to always assure that ens are provided with means and oppourtunity to reach productivity both so that productivity is maintained in future crisis rather than the prior mad scramble and that it is maintained without crisis.
Mostly a plan for expanding the colony into something closer to a city-state. Population number is a joke.
-[x] Native Deal: Negotiate the deal and see if the colony can secure fertile plains and river side lands. We are willing to take only 60% of total land instead of their proposed 70%. It is of course preferable if they will consolidate their land in larger masses to avoid future land right problems.
-[x] More Migrants: Spread the news opportunities presented in Georgia everywhere. We got land for the honest and hardworking.
-[x] Even more migrants: Spread news of plentiful Georgian land further in Europe. There's bound to be people eager for a new life in the new world.
-[X] Prospect: Prospect and survey Georgia lands to determine the best way to further develop in line with our culture and determine best rates of expansion and immigration. If possible also look into what communities would be most recipient to the notion of immigrating to Georgia and to the ideals of the colony such that promotion of the colony can be better targeted.
-[X] Permanence of Recovery Powers: Noting the success of the recovery efforts try to form a more permanent system in place to always assure that ens are provided with means and oppourtunity to reach productivity both so that productivity is maintained in future crisis rather than the prior mad scramble and that it is maintained without crisis.
Mostly a plan for expanding the colony into something closer to a city-state. Population number is a joke.
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- Location
- Canada
[X] Plan Logistic
-[X] Deal: Accept at a purchase of the 50% of the land closest to Georgia contingent that they are not selling land vital to their wellbeing.
-[X] Prospect: Prospect and survey Georgia lands to determine the best way to further develop in line with our culture and determine best rates of expansion and immigration. If possible also look into what communities would be most recipient to the notion of immigrating to Georgia and to the ideals of the colony such that promotion of the colony can be better targeted.
-[X] Logistic Efforts: Set a further 150 man group of the militia to serve as a constant logistics company provoiding constant resupply to the Crown troops
-[X] Emergency Response and Peacekeeping: Have a portion of the domestic militia properly trained in keeping peace and recovering in case of emergency natural or manmade
-[X] Permanence of Recovery Powers: Noting the success of the recovery efforts try to form a more permanent system in place to always assure that ens are provided with means and oppourtunity to reach productivity both so that productivity is maintained in future crisis rather than the prior mad scramble and that it is maintained without crisis.
-[X] Deal: Accept at a purchase of the 50% of the land closest to Georgia contingent that they are not selling land vital to their wellbeing.
-[X] Prospect: Prospect and survey Georgia lands to determine the best way to further develop in line with our culture and determine best rates of expansion and immigration. If possible also look into what communities would be most recipient to the notion of immigrating to Georgia and to the ideals of the colony such that promotion of the colony can be better targeted.
-[X] Logistic Efforts: Set a further 150 man group of the militia to serve as a constant logistics company provoiding constant resupply to the Crown troops
-[X] Emergency Response and Peacekeeping: Have a portion of the domestic militia properly trained in keeping peace and recovering in case of emergency natural or manmade
-[X] Permanence of Recovery Powers: Noting the success of the recovery efforts try to form a more permanent system in place to always assure that ens are provided with means and oppourtunity to reach productivity both so that productivity is maintained in future crisis rather than the prior mad scramble and that it is maintained without crisis.
- Location
- California
[X] Plan Logistic
Not sold on the complexity of this action,
But we do need to send someone over to see the land.
My second concern is the 'Permanence of Recovery Powers.' Do you envision it as the colonial congress making plans as a result of thought experiments about how they can solve a crisis as it happens, or do you see it as an employment office/ facilitators of mentorship?
Not sold on the complexity of this action,
But we do need to send someone over to see the land.
My second concern is the 'Permanence of Recovery Powers.' Do you envision it as the colonial congress making plans as a result of thought experiments about how they can solve a crisis as it happens, or do you see it as an employment office/ facilitators of mentorship?
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- Location
- I think somewhere. I might be nowhere though
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- He/Him
Not a good idea. We don't have the money or numbers to form a full-time army, especially as we are already being both generous with our money and using quite a bit on rebuilding and refurbishments as it is.
- Location
- California
We might want to upgrade our militia to an army in the future.
With that said, I do think the best method might be to take testimonials/ interviews from guys who return from fighting in the north. Then we apply that wisdom to aim for a quality "home guard," instead of a creating a large army of people.
- Location
- I think somewhere. I might be nowhere though
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- He/Him
That would be better yes. Having a well-trained militia should suit our needs for the time-being. Like, we could get an army at horrific costs, but what are the benefits? We have, for the moment, established fairly peaceful relations with the natives and our position in North America means we likely shouldn't expect many problems beyond British borders for a while should the British manage to crush the rebels.
A well-trained militia in the form of a home guard force, on the other hand, would allow a rapid response group should the need arise (like from, say, a Spanish excursion from Florida) while still maintaining costs to a manageable level and not tying the people of this agricultural colony up in training and patrols, kinda like a Georgian Yeoman Gunner.
That said, that type of upgrade would still be best left to the post-revolutionary period when we have both the extra money, and when we can petition the Crown to send someone from His Majesty's Armed Forces to train said squad (since we will likely have higher taxes put on us, especially since we have a special port status, to pay for the damages and possible lost income from the other colonies).
VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
- Location
- Anywhere but RL
Huh, yes I overlooked our spending and small population when writing that. Maybe something trade related.
- Location
- alphen aan den rijn
[X] Plan Logistic
this sounds fine
this sounds fine
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- Male
Georgia has around 6,000 people right now if anyone was wondering. Also we don't have to worry about Florida as their a British Colony.
Next turn I'm going to start rolling for a peace treaty.
- Location
- I think somewhere. I might be nowhere though
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- He/Him
Historically speaking, Britain gave Spain Florida in the treaties that ended the Revolution. Given that Spain seems to be fit to have the highest leverage of all the powers come the end of the war, I suspect that it very much still a real possibility, though not a guaranteed one.
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Keani
C̵͍̈t̷̼̓h̴̀ͅŭ̶̹l̴̡̈u̸̫͗ ̶̟͌F̵͚́h̶̠͊t̶͍͌ă̷̺g̴̯̊n̷
- Location
- R͈̥̲̦͍͓͗̽̈́̚'̞ͧ͛ͥ̄l̫̰̤̖̽̐y͍̲ͧ̒́̐̌̀e̪͆h̸̩͔̟ͣ͐͐̎ͤ
I don't think it's that much of an issue, it's really just a survey that gets some city planners attached.
As for permanence of recovery powers it's both and neither of those things. It is what it says it is. When emergency struck and our people were deprived of their means and employment we did what we needed to make sure that they could be returned to means. This was perfect and is doing everything we need it to do and then some but it was rushed and purely in response to disaster.
This is a model that after a disaster has served us well, I desire for it to be refined into something that can serve it's purpose after future disasters rather than haphazardly rushing things as well as doing its job without a disaster to give impetus. As things are with our population what it is the disaster response is the part that matters but as the colony grows I forsee this doing great lengths to maintain peak efficiency, reduce unemployment, and most importantly maintain the foundational ideal of the colony.
Strife is the mother of innovation and when something that fits so perfectly comes around we just gotta snatch it up.
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Our Men are farmers who meet once a week to train. And only 350 of the 700 man militia is professionally trained and even those men are still farmers. The Dutch and French soldiers in the Caribbean are professional soldiers who are being payed a lot of money.
- Location
- New York
I think hes referring to what happened on Haiti otl. Except this time, it will be the British slave colonies that get conquered by the French and Dutch forces. I don't foresee said slaves quietly accepting their new overlords (Especially the French and their tried and true method). So yeah, the French and Dutch are going to bleed holding onto what they believe to be profitable colonies.
Oh, and because Spain, France, and the Dutch has committed themselves overseas, the German nations might begin planning moves to assist. Austria and Prussia in particular don't want a ascendant France and should be having thoughts of intervention.
Still above all, I can't wait for Frances economy roll (seeing as how most of the U.S supplies and finances come from them) and the Dutch.
- Location
- California
Okay, so it's an emergency mode. In peace time, everything's normal, but when things go down then we switch over to this style of organization. Said style being based on this government as it acted during the American Revolution. I.e efficiency.
Edit: The survey itself isn't the problem. It's the language involved which seem overly complicated when it can be simplified as," Go over the newly bought lands, and look at the quality of the purchase."
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Keani
C̵͍̈t̷̼̓h̴̀ͅŭ̶̹l̴̡̈u̸̫͗ ̶̟͌F̵͚́h̶̠͊t̶͍͌ă̷̺g̴̯̊n̷
- Location
- R͈̥̲̦͍͓͗̽̈́̚'̞ͧ͛ͥ̄l̫̰̤̖̽̐y͍̲ͧ̒́̐̌̀e̪͆h̸̩͔̟ͣ͐͐̎ͤ
I said what I meant and meant what I said...
Anyway, regarding the survey I wasn't necessarily talking about the new purchase, I was talking about wherever the best land to develop is, likely the lands around the Capitol. The goal is to best set up for strong and fast population increase. Our manpower is too short and we need warm bodies.
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Vote closed
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- Male
Inserted tally plan logic won Also since everything is already agreed with the Creek and Cherokee I'm going to roll to chose where they place their new entities. Also the War is over so I'm going to kindly attribute your crit fail to the war being over.
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- Location
- California
>Dice
>Am slain.
Edit: Actually what happened with the prospect roll? Does nothing get accomplished or did things take a turn for the violent which was only negated by our police?
>Am slain.
Edit: Actually what happened with the prospect roll? Does nothing get accomplished or did things take a turn for the violent which was only negated by our police?
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- Location
- I think somewhere. I might be nowhere though
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Do we ever get modifiers? So far it seems like our choices are more for flavor than actually affecting anything.
November to May results
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- Male
Deal closed Creek and Cherokee take best land for themselves:
The deal with the Creek and Cherokee tribes is closed the Creeks chose to retain land bordering the proclamation line starting in the Okefenokee Swamp going north taking some very good farmland with them. The Cherokee choose to retain the land in the northernmost part of the province giving them a border with South Carolina. After this the British government who had been following the negotiations closely create the Muskogee Autonomous Province and the Cherokee Autonomous Province. This status grants them complete internal autonomy with Great Britain only managing their foreign affairs.
(The Cherokee State is centered around Athens, Georgia while the Creek State just straddles the Proclamation Line creating a long thin State)
Government cheated by prospectors:
The prospectors the Government hired take money from Georgia's treasury then run off never to be seen again.
War Over:
The Logistics train goes north not to drop off supplies but to pick up our soldiers as the war is over!
Recovery System:
The recovery system is implemented and ready to be activated by order of the Government of Georgia.
Militia trained:
The militia is now possibly the best in the world when it comes to peacekeeping and natural/manmade disasters.
+20 to militia when peacekeeping or fighting natural or manmade disasters.
The deal with the Creek and Cherokee tribes is closed the Creeks chose to retain land bordering the proclamation line starting in the Okefenokee Swamp going north taking some very good farmland with them. The Cherokee choose to retain the land in the northernmost part of the province giving them a border with South Carolina. After this the British government who had been following the negotiations closely create the Muskogee Autonomous Province and the Cherokee Autonomous Province. This status grants them complete internal autonomy with Great Britain only managing their foreign affairs.
(The Cherokee State is centered around Athens, Georgia while the Creek State just straddles the Proclamation Line creating a long thin State)
Government cheated by prospectors:
The prospectors the Government hired take money from Georgia's treasury then run off never to be seen again.
War Over:
The Logistics train goes north not to drop off supplies but to pick up our soldiers as the war is over!
Recovery System:
The recovery system is implemented and ready to be activated by order of the Government of Georgia.
Militia trained:
The militia is now possibly the best in the world when it comes to peacekeeping and natural/manmade disasters.
+20 to militia when peacekeeping or fighting natural or manmade disasters.
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- Male
I'll start adding modifiers when an action rolls a crit.
Keani
C̵͍̈t̷̼̓h̴̀ͅŭ̶̹l̴̡̈u̸̫͗ ̶̟͌F̵͚́h̶̠͊t̶͍͌ă̷̺g̴̯̊n̷
- Location
- R͈̥̲̦͍͓͗̽̈́̚'̞ͧ͛ͥ̄l̫̰̤̖̽̐y͍̲ͧ̒́̐̌̀e̪͆h̸̩͔̟ͣ͐͐̎ͤ
So... Everything went perfectly as planned except for the survey which I guess we'll just have to strike back on. Also maybe an oversight group to prevent fraud and embezzlement.
That peacekeeping tho! which is honestly just so much yesness, especially alongside the recovery office.
Hopefully the war ended well.
Also, the indians taking the best land is actually IMO a good thing as it will seperateus from the narrative of being theives and hopefully, over time, ease relations in a positive manner with our continued work.
War being over it'll be time to revisit the coverture case and lo and behold we're doing yesness for the people and the troops came home which means it's hopefully the perfect time to entrench, reinforce, and advance our progressive ideal.
So I see the coverture case and survey as issues to revisit come next turn hoping all goes well.
That peacekeeping tho! which is honestly just so much yesness, especially alongside the recovery office.
Hopefully the war ended well.
Also, the indians taking the best land is actually IMO a good thing as it will seperateus from the narrative of being theives and hopefully, over time, ease relations in a positive manner with our continued work.
War being over it'll be time to revisit the coverture case and lo and behold we're doing yesness for the people and the troops came home which means it's hopefully the perfect time to entrench, reinforce, and advance our progressive ideal.
So I see the coverture case and survey as issues to revisit come next turn hoping all goes well.