NewAgeOfPower
Engineering Pornagrapher Extraordinaire
- Location
- An Certain Hive of Scum & Villainy, known as NYC
Noblesse Oblige [Znt/SI]
Backlash177
Certifiably Insane
- Location
- Australia
Fixed that for you.
- Location
- Dreary ol' London Town
Karin must have been feeling very guilty that she was not able to do her duty and state to Henrietta or her mother that Louise was a void mage. Nevermind all the help they've given Henry when it was not in Tristain's best interest. Going to war is maybe her way of making it up to them in her eyes and fulfilling her duty?
Trusty_Chester
That One Guy
- Location
- Texas
InB4 Something bad goes down.
Can't you feel it? The fluff is dying.
Can't you feel it? The fluff is dying.
Dragonskyt
Ashen one, hearest thou my voice, still?
- Location
- Kiln of the First Flame
No! It's still there!
We can save it!
We have the technology!
Godzillaslayer10
I am ready for this quest!
- Location
- Somewhere
We can make the fluff better, stronger, and faster.
Trusty_Chester
That One Guy
- Location
- Texas
Robo Fluff?
"wince"Ouch on Tristain's queen part, Though I'm worried about Karin's health.
She's what in her 40's pushing 50 those high level spells must take one hell of a toll even on a younger person.
If pushed hard Karin may not survive this war.
She's what in her 40's pushing 50 those high level spells must take one hell of a toll even on a younger person.
If pushed hard Karin may not survive this war.
*Shrugs* It doesn't surprise me that Henry is upset, but involving Karin is logical from the point of view of just about everyone else in Halkeginia. All kidding aside, she's still well capable of kicking ass and taking names and she's a loyal Tristainian.
That said, twenty thousand against fifty thousand is bad enough on even ground, but Henrietta's coalition won't be getting the advantage of surprise. They'll be facing an entrenched enemy on their home ground and I somehow doubt their PR will hold up with Wales. It'll be a meatgrinder unless Karin really pulls off a miracle or Louise gets involved.
That said, twenty thousand against fifty thousand is bad enough on even ground, but Henrietta's coalition won't be getting the advantage of surprise. They'll be facing an entrenched enemy on their home ground and I somehow doubt their PR will hold up with Wales. It'll be a meatgrinder unless Karin really pulls off a miracle or Louise gets involved.
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- Location
- Malaysia
For that one move, if Henry has his way, he's going to put Henrietta's head on a pike. Pretty sure Isaisa will gladly help him if she could.
EDIT: Did Henrietta conscript every able-bodied Tristain nobles for her war? It's strange that she is searching for Louise specifically.
EDIT: Did Henrietta conscript every able-bodied Tristain nobles for her war? It's strange that she is searching for Louise specifically.
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Night_stalker
Slava Ukraini!
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- He/Him
Or at the very least make damn sure news of the affair gets leaked to Germania.
Powerofmind
In Madness Fallen
- Location
- United States
I imagine the only means Henry sees Karin could be involved were through blatant guilting or some other form of blackmail. That or outright mind control, seeing as even with a void mage Karin would rather hunker down and not even help her own daughter.
The issue isn't that Karin was involved, at least not to Henry, it was that Karin was likely involved against her wishes.
Jerry Finch
Stupid but lucky.
- Location
- Slightly closer than you would be comfortable with
EDIT: I wrote this before seeing the latest chapter. Damn you, my inability to write short, concise paragraphs! You've screwed me again!
Haha no. What Henry is doing is commonly called "giving them enough rope to hang themselves with". It clear she has some idea as to what her end goals are BUT, she is entirely reliant on Gallia doing the heavy lifting in the meantime. Because that's really the only way she could justify breaking off the marriage to the Germanian emperor. That aside, whereas Henry's plots are built on a solid foundation, Henrietta's are at least partially being played tongue-in-cheek. It might not seem like much now, but all of her plans are quite precarious and have way too many ways to fail.
A lot of them hinge on other people acting a certain way, namely Gallia, and by that extent, Henry, and it doesn't take David Xanatos to tell you that kinda plot only works out in the movies. I mean, lets look at it. The only way Tristain is going to get the manpower it needs to take Albion is with either Gallian or Germanian force of arms. A small country like that is never going to be able to raise an army to take back the country, much less police it and repair it's infrastructure. It's pretty clear from the beginning that she's almost totally reliant on foreign military power to boost her grand ambition of putting Wales on the throne, and then slipping in and usurping the glory in the aftermath. I mean, hey, it worked once right? Despite the notable loss of Gallian troops Henrietta just slid in and claimed it as "her" victory, and I bet that's what she was expecting from the ground up.
That said, when word gets out about what she did I don't think people will look too kindly on her, or too harshly on Henry for pulling out. It's one thing to throw away commoners. Nobles are expected to do that. It's another to try to claim a victory when it's clear you didn't fight. It was made clear that this was Henry's show. Usurping that town in the name of Tristain was like spitting in his face, and is indisputably dishonorable. In fact, in the old days, this would have been grounds for Gallia to turn right around and burn Tristain to the ground, and nobody would stop them, especially since it's becoming increasingly clear Henrietta is looking for an excuse to break things off with Germania. So yeah, as far as the good Princess is concerned, this is less high-speed gambit chess and more like a ten gambit pileup, and she doesn't even notice the noose.
Eh, you're assuming Tristain is able to win Albion in the first place. It's been mentioned several times that a Royal seeking outside help to fix their problems isn't just a sign of weakness but also a sign that they're unfit to rule. Technically speaking Wales lost his right to the crown when he "fled", and whatever the circumstances were, that's what it looks like, especially if he shows up with a Tristan war host. Gallia, in a lot of ways, is in the clear here. They have the power to take the country and Wales doesn't have the power to make them give it back. At best the case could be made to have him come on as a figurehead ruler under a firm Gallian vassalage that basically strips the crown of Albion of all it's power, assuming they bothered with that at all.
As it is without Gallia or Germania doing the heavy lifting Tristain has no real hope of victory. If Henrietta uses the elf, she risks exposing herself to claims of heresy. What's worse, is that because the crown of Albion has been known to openly comport with elves in the past, AKA the previous king's fling with an elf that resulted in Tiffania, Henry could well claim that Wales is corrupted and spread that corruption to Henrietta, and by that I mean either willingly comporting with the enemy of all Brimir's faithful or being controlled into doing so. It wouldn't take much to start a purge, and if Henry plies it right he could even get the Pope to go along with it, since all that guy cares about is raising his army for his holy war against the elves. Hell, it wouldn't be hard. All Henry'd need to do is promise to raise troops and weapons from Albion and Tristain to create a mighty war host. He wouldn't even need to commit to a Crusade, just imply it, and then of course shank Popesondick in the back when it becomes politically convenient. He was planning on doing it anyway, so hell, why not?
Haha no. What Henry is doing is commonly called "giving them enough rope to hang themselves with". It clear she has some idea as to what her end goals are BUT, she is entirely reliant on Gallia doing the heavy lifting in the meantime. Because that's really the only way she could justify breaking off the marriage to the Germanian emperor. That aside, whereas Henry's plots are built on a solid foundation, Henrietta's are at least partially being played tongue-in-cheek. It might not seem like much now, but all of her plans are quite precarious and have way too many ways to fail.
A lot of them hinge on other people acting a certain way, namely Gallia, and by that extent, Henry, and it doesn't take David Xanatos to tell you that kinda plot only works out in the movies. I mean, lets look at it. The only way Tristain is going to get the manpower it needs to take Albion is with either Gallian or Germanian force of arms. A small country like that is never going to be able to raise an army to take back the country, much less police it and repair it's infrastructure. It's pretty clear from the beginning that she's almost totally reliant on foreign military power to boost her grand ambition of putting Wales on the throne, and then slipping in and usurping the glory in the aftermath. I mean, hey, it worked once right? Despite the notable loss of Gallian troops Henrietta just slid in and claimed it as "her" victory, and I bet that's what she was expecting from the ground up.
That said, when word gets out about what she did I don't think people will look too kindly on her, or too harshly on Henry for pulling out. It's one thing to throw away commoners. Nobles are expected to do that. It's another to try to claim a victory when it's clear you didn't fight. It was made clear that this was Henry's show. Usurping that town in the name of Tristain was like spitting in his face, and is indisputably dishonorable. In fact, in the old days, this would have been grounds for Gallia to turn right around and burn Tristain to the ground, and nobody would stop them, especially since it's becoming increasingly clear Henrietta is looking for an excuse to break things off with Germania. So yeah, as far as the good Princess is concerned, this is less high-speed gambit chess and more like a ten gambit pileup, and she doesn't even notice the noose.
Eh, you're assuming Tristain is able to win Albion in the first place. It's been mentioned several times that a Royal seeking outside help to fix their problems isn't just a sign of weakness but also a sign that they're unfit to rule. Technically speaking Wales lost his right to the crown when he "fled", and whatever the circumstances were, that's what it looks like, especially if he shows up with a Tristan war host. Gallia, in a lot of ways, is in the clear here. They have the power to take the country and Wales doesn't have the power to make them give it back. At best the case could be made to have him come on as a figurehead ruler under a firm Gallian vassalage that basically strips the crown of Albion of all it's power, assuming they bothered with that at all.
As it is without Gallia or Germania doing the heavy lifting Tristain has no real hope of victory. If Henrietta uses the elf, she risks exposing herself to claims of heresy. What's worse, is that because the crown of Albion has been known to openly comport with elves in the past, AKA the previous king's fling with an elf that resulted in Tiffania, Henry could well claim that Wales is corrupted and spread that corruption to Henrietta, and by that I mean either willingly comporting with the enemy of all Brimir's faithful or being controlled into doing so. It wouldn't take much to start a purge, and if Henry plies it right he could even get the Pope to go along with it, since all that guy cares about is raising his army for his holy war against the elves. Hell, it wouldn't be hard. All Henry'd need to do is promise to raise troops and weapons from Albion and Tristain to create a mighty war host. He wouldn't even need to commit to a Crusade, just imply it, and then of course shank Popesondick in the back when it becomes politically convenient. He was planning on doing it anyway, so hell, why not?
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- Location
- Malaysia
Rule of Steel. A royal orders her specifically(because no OP void mage) to join, she is obligated to enlist. Noblesse Oblige.
- Location
- England
As much as I love this story, I really just want Karin to shut Henry down again, haha. Despite being a King, his feet might be a few sizes too big for his boots~
EDIT: To clarify, it's because every time something's not gone his way this past few chapters he's literally thrown a hissy fit.
"STOP BEING A CHILD, YOU'RE A KING!" - The Heavy Wind, mother of 4, some date.
EDIT: To clarify, it's because every time something's not gone his way this past few chapters he's literally thrown a hissy fit.
"STOP BEING A CHILD, YOU'RE A KING!" - The Heavy Wind, mother of 4, some date.
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AZATHOTHoth
༼ つ ☀️_☀️ ༽つ
Or that she still rather loyal to the crown.
As much as I love this story, I really just want Karin to shut Henry down again, haha. Despite being a King, his feet might be a few sizes too big for his boots~
EDIT: To clarify, it's because every time something's not gone his way this past few chapters he's literally thrown a hissy fit.
"STOP BEING A CHILD, YOU'RE A KING!" - The Heavy Wind, mother of 4, some date.
Incorrect he is a prince-consort.
- Location
- U.S.A.
The last time this happened we saved the story by rating it with more hugs than likes! Rate hugs!
Powerofmind
In Madness Fallen
- Location
- United States
That is a self-contradicting statement. "Because her own family isn't fighting, she fights instead"? She was ordered in canon, too. She paid the fine to not show up despite her (in her mind) historically incapable and weak daughter being used as a mana battery to buoy up Tristans forces. Forget rule of steel, she damn-near consigned her youngest to death and wouldn't have gone in her stead even if Louise stayed at home.
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- she/her
We- and Henry- know two very, very important things about him.
1) Wales is willing to give up on Henrietta and literally die for the good of her kingdom.
2) Wales is the ONLY character who can provide the closure Henrietta needs to truly give up on their relationship and start being the best Queen she possibly can.
Henry should've had him assassinated or stopped the relationship instead of waiting. Wales is the key to Henrietta's character development- no relationship, and she has no motive to take up the Crown in the first place.
Jerry Finch
Stupid but lucky.
- Location
- Slightly closer than you would be comfortable with
Or she joined up to keep an eye on Louise and Henry. Which makes more sense. Canonically she was done with warring, and refused Tristain's call if I remember correctly.
Of course if that's the case the General will be in for a rude surprise.
AnonymousRabbit
Rabbit Faced
I don't know about you guys, but this is entertaining. Let's see how far the flames can go.