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Memoirs of a Human Flashlight [Exalted/Worm]

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Nightblade said:
I got on you cause you were the one continuing the argument. I would have done the same to Hazard and Alratan if it was them. Plus I apologize if I insulted you. I let my hatred of people who thread crap color my response.
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Apology accepted. Though I suggest that the next time you think a discussion is off-topic, you address all of the participants, instead of singling one out, regardless of the reason.
 
Of course, Taylor would first need to know that sorcery is a thing that she can learn. And then she'd have to know that summoning was an option. And then she'd have to figure out the kinds of things she could summon. So clearly there's a bunch of hurdles that Taylor needs to overcome because last time I checked, Earth Bet doesn't have any sorcery books for Taylor to get her grubby, min/maxing hands on.

Which is unfortunate, because summoning would be right up Taylor's alley since it works off a couple of her major traits/personality aspects:
- Command/support. Beyond summoning an army, you also get access to a lot of nifty support demons like Perroneles, Sesseljae, etc.
- Utility. Summoning lets you approach problems from unconventional angles with proper demon selection.
- Min/maxing. There's a lot of power that you can squeeze out of even basic Terrestrial level Demon of the First Circle.
- PR. Proper demon selection allows to project a carefully crafted image. Positive, "Good" PR: summon harpists, dancers, Agatae. Fear-based PR: summon Tomascu, Luminata.

As an example, think about how fights against Leviathan might go differently if the PRT had something as simple as access to a couple squadrons of Agatae. It doesn't trivialize the fight (which is good, from a narrative standpoint), but it makes it much more likely that the PRT will walk out of the fight with significantly fewer losses thanks to the incredible mobility boost.

And since Agatae are supernaturally beautiful creatures, they also serve a great PR function. Taylor, of course, is going to need a better cape name. Lightshow is a bit...underwhelming.
 
FunkyEntropy said:
Of course, Taylor would first need to know that sorcery is a thing that she can learn. And then she'd have to know that summoning was an option. And then she'd have to figure out the kinds of things she could summon. So clearly there's a bunch of hurdles that Taylor needs to overcome because last time I checked, Earth Bet doesn't have any sorcery books for Taylor to get her grubby, min/maxing hands on.

Which is unfortunate, because summoning would be right up Taylor's alley since it works off a couple of her major traits/personality aspects:
- Command/support. Beyond summoning an army, you also get access to a lot of nifty support demons like Perroneles, Sesseljae, etc.
- Utility. Summoning lets you approach problems from unconventional angles with proper demon selection.
- Min/maxing. There's a lot of power that you can squeeze out of even basic Terrestrial level Demon of the First Circle.
- PR. Proper demon selection allows to project a carefully crafted image. Positive, "Good" PR: summon harpists, dancers, Agatae. Fear-based PR: summon Tomascu, Luminata.

As an example, think about how fights against Leviathan might go differently if the PRT had something as simple as access to a couple squadrons of Agatae. It doesn't trivialize the fight (which is good, from a narrative standpoint), but it makes it much more likely that the PRT will walk out of the fight with significantly fewer losses thanks to the incredible mobility boost.

And since Agatae are supernaturally beautiful creatures, they also serve a great PR function. Taylor, of course, is going to need a better cape name. Lightshow is a bit...underwhelming.
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The Salinan Working will provide the initiations she needs if she wants to learn. The lack of any sorcery manuals just slows things down a bit.
 
Rathmun said:
The Salinan Working will provide the initiations she needs if she wants to learn. The lack of any sorcery manuals just slows things down a bit.
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Salinian Working will probably take time to show any effects that will prove useful, given that there isn't even a motonic structure to this reality at present.
 
Rathmun said:
The Salinan Working will provide the initiations she needs if she wants to learn. The lack of any sorcery manuals just slows things down a bit.
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It's that slow down that's going to hurt her since the one thing they don't have a lot of in the Wormverse is time. Countdown to Leviathan is, what, three or four months?

But, thankfully, as has been pointed out Taylor has Past Life and Occult is also, conveniently, a caste ability so Taylor can get cranking as soon as she decides that this is something she wants to do.

In other words, as soon or as late as Golden Lark feels like it.
 
NSMS said:
Salinian Working will probably take time to show any effects that will prove useful, given that there isn't even a motonic structure to this reality at present.
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True, but that same lack of a motonic substructure also means that anything that could currently be learned from it would be impossible to make use of anyway.
 
I was rereading the chapters and noticed some stuff that will allow me to do some baseless delicious speculation.
Finally, I was shown the relative values of the different parts of town, and the priorities we were expected to follow if things went bad in multiple places at once. I didn't object out loud at the time, but I made a mental note to research the logic behind some of the rankings. I definitely didn't like how my old neighborhood ranked well below Emma's. I smelled graft.
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At some point in the (hopefully immediate) future the PRT is going to get a taste of Solar bureaucracy (followed by social) charms as Taylor starts sniffing out corruption and it is going to be glorious. Nothing quite like the righteous indignation of an angry Solar. Coil will probably shit himself once this happens.

I can see the Uber and Leet fight going down three ways:
1) Epic kung-fu battle of Uber vs Taylor. Glory Girl might try to kill steal so she can grab credit for taking out both the villains.
2) Solar social charms happen, ending the fight before it can even begin.
3) As (2), but Glory Girl ruins the moment by attacking despite the situation having been diffused because she's a loose cannon and cocksure so (1) happens anyway.

I really, really hope Taylor gets to give Glory Girl a "Why you suck" speech for all the ways she blew this event. Preferably along the PR lines which seems to be a recurring motif of this crossover now that I've gone back and reread all the chapters.
 
Solar Social~

Taylor has to earn her Master rating somehow, right?

(I kinda want to see one of these Exalted Taylors to Social-Fu Simurgh onto their side near the ending of their fic...)
 
TheWeepingMan said:
Agree, though. Just tell them not to call themselves demons, and everything (should) be green. I mean, Exalted's demon is really different then 'normal' conception of demon, so long that nobody mention they are the equivalent of demon in their world, it should be fine.
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Honestly, if they help against Endbringers I'm not sure people would care what they call themselves at this point.

"Wait. You summoned me to wait around and fight against a giant monster with a 50% death rate once a month?"
"Well, when you put it like that I feel kind of guilty. . ."
"Thank you. Thank you so much. Safest place ever."
 
Robotninja said:
Honestly, if they help against Endbringers I'm not sure people would care what they call themselves at this point.

"Wait. You summoned me to wait around and fight against a giant monster with a 50% death rate once a month?"
"Well, when you put it like that I feel kind of guilty. . ."
"Thank you. Thank you so much. Safest place ever."
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Eh, the demons don't even die if they were summoned. They just go back to Malfeas, and can be summoned again after some downtime. :)
 
Tyrion77 said:
She's a solar. Bring on the 3rd circle demons. I'm sure nothing at all could go wrong.
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Um, Exalted demons summoning is actually perfectly safe as long as you know what you are doing and summon the right demon for the job. Call up one of the more blood knightish 3cds to fight an endbringer and there will be no problems whatsover - you just called up a being that lives to fight worthy enemies to fight a worthy enemy.
 
Gore17 said:
That leads to the question: Would Ligier think of a Endbringer as a worthy opponent?
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You don't summon Liger to fight battles. He isn't a battle optomized 3CD. You summon him to make some sort of Anti-Endbringer doomcannon.
 
He could probably kick the shit out of an Endbringer pretty triviallyanyway without having to bother making any extra artifacts.

He's a crafter first, but he's personally powerful enough in his secondary areas to be able to deal with them.
 
Matsci said:
You don't summon Liger to fight battles. He isn't a battle optomized 3CD. You summon him to make some sort of Anti-Endbringer doomcannon.
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I thought that Liger could murder most combat optomized exalts? It was why these people in this quest I was playing didn't want to fight him.
 
Gore17 said:
That leads to the question: Would Ligier think of a Endbringer as a worthy opponent?
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Only when not holding back - otherwise he just sends his sword after them. Behemoth would probably have either the best or worst chance of being considered a worthy enemy - he's got the best defenses vs Ligier's cosmic radioactive hatefire, but everything he has but physical attacks is worthless against Ligier. Vs Simurgh not holding back he'd probably just try to social-fu her into talking shop - Ligier is a crafter first and foremost, and anyone who can whip up artifacts out of scrap is someone he will see as a peer in that area - doesn't help that all she has is tinker guns and TK vs him - 3CD's are immune to precog and mindraping them is pretty much impossible. Note - that sword of his - in attack drone mode its very much a credible threat to an Endbringer that is holding back.
Nightblade said:
I thought that Liger could murder most combat optomized exalts? It was why these people in this quest I was playing didn't want to fight him.
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He can - he is still craft focused, though. He just has a huge artifact 5 and N/A collection, access to panopaly versions of Malfeas's attack and fire tree (he is the green sun), and is the most powerful 3CD period. Also doesn't help that his sword is perfectly capable of fucking up terrestrial combat circles on its own in attack drone mode, he probably has more like that, and if he cuts loose, you fight them all at once.
 
Alasnuyo said:
3rd Circles aren't beings that one should call up lightly. Mostly because botching the process of binding them might leave you with a 3rd Circle deva pissed-off at your temerity of trying to impose your will on them.
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Which is why you call up one that will ENJOY whatever it is you want it to do. There isn't that much need for binding when calling a being that lives for fights with peer opponents to take on an endbringer.
 
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