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Mandat de l'impératrice des Cieux - Imperial Princess Troubleshooter Space Opera Quest
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I'm like the Ubisoft Store trying to sell you the Deluxe package when you've already bought all the Season Pass thingsI wish going to say 'oh hey more than 25 votes, so how about that lemon, whiskey?' and then we got this. Not the quite the fruit I was told in the scuttlebutt, but i guess its juicy enough in its own way :lol
But eh, I suppose if there's enough demand I can do the lemon
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So the Byzantine Roman Emperor decided that getting stabbed in the back by his own dudes fucking sucked, so naturally his plan was to recruit barbarians from waaaaay the fuck outside the empire to guard his ass. He ended up paying for Vikings, who then proceeded to be the best heavy infantry on the Med until the Ottomans moved in.
Edit: they were kinda expensive tho and got to loot the palace when the emperor died tho so like hope you didn't like that thing of money you left lying around.
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Always Late
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... either we just knocked over the weeb version of Apocalypse now or there's some Colonel Hunter Gather's shit going down.
Ok, we can rule out Apocalypse Now.
Whelp. O.S.I it is.
Oh god, if we made a mess of an op run by the local Brock Fucking Sampson.
Oh fuck.
He is Brock Fucking Sampson!
And we are dealing with some Hunter Gathers gone-off-the-ranch-to-do-good conspiracy!
We're about to recruit Brock Fucking Sampson.
Whiskey, I love you.
Yeah, totally writing that love letter.
Few pieces of missing info, for context sake:
1. They were pretty explicitly based on the Germanic Guard, the Italian-Roman empire's version of the same concept: Foreign soldiers above local politics and nobility given unique privileges.
2. There were two kinds of Varangians, as that was just the Byzantine and Rus term for anyone from the Scandinavian countries who came down to swear themselves to the Byzantine Emperor. Most of them served in the professional army, and only a few ever joined the Guard itself.
3. The Varangian Guard were always the last to abandon any overthrown emperor, and thus became a symbol of legitimacy and the emperor's commanding of 'barbarians' as much as a practical tool of political control. They only abandoned their loyalty when one of the Palaiologos emperors' threatened to revoke their special pay and replace them with mercenaries.
4. Basil The Bulgar-Slayer just hated politics in general and spent most of his reign on campaign smashing shit.
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On one hand I'm a little disappointed that people didn't see the little shoutouts I made, then I remember it's 3am in the US. Oh well, maybe tomorrow then.
And no, we're not recruiting Lee - and even if we tried to recruit Lee, the women in his life (i.e. his Sumeragi foxwife and his mother) take priority over Yui. And well, his wife wouldn't really take kindly to him serving Yui over her. A fox may have many men, but woe betide the man who tries to have many foxthots
But, I mean, I thought it was obvious.
Also the problem is that Yui pretty much is the better candidate for the throne. She knows it, the Guard knows it, Ahri knows it.
Technically he's not Brock Sampson on account of looking like those fat dudes you see in eromanga
And no, we're not recruiting Lee - and even if we tried to recruit Lee, the women in his life (i.e. his Sumeragi foxwife and his mother) take priority over Yui. And well, his wife wouldn't really take kindly to him serving Yui over her. A fox may have many men, but woe betide the man who tries to have many foxthots This is the part where I remind the thread that the IRG very obviously assigned Major Nakahara to Yui to be the IRG's eyes and ears first, Yui's liaison officer second, and thus is the paranoia ramped up.
But, I mean, I thought it was obvious.Also the problem is that Yui pretty much is the better candidate for the throne. She knows it, the Guard knows it, Ahri knows it.
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Don't think I missed that Comberth Harbor reference you madlad
Axslashel
I am a pessimist not a realist.
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So I am confusion. Baby mother? Who did Lee shoot? First I thought he shot his wife but she is still alive.
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What he means by shotgunning his wife is that he knocked her up. Y'know, shotgun wedding.
The person Lee is talking about here who he shot is a superior officer who had oversight on the mission he was on that went bad, with him being the only survivor; she offered him a choice between committing ritual suicide to avoid an inquiry and "atone for his mistakes", or blame his Sumeragi babymama for the mission getting FUBAR'd and throw her under the bus, whereupon the IRG would disappear her into foxthot Gitmo (at best).
This is Word of God territory, but basically, when Lee was in the IRG, he was Rabid Foxes, i.e. IRG SF. He went in with his team on a counterterror mission, and it ended up with him and this heir to a Sumeragi cadet branch family being the only survivors, stuck in a lifepod drifting in space for days (I mean, he did say as much in the update itself, but Lee's elocution isn't quite as fine as Yui or Johnny's.)
It was very boy meets girl stuff
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Dang, I almost had it right. I pegged him as undercover active-duty. Not retired in Exile.
I'd say this was an extensive backstory for a guy who's probably going to be a minor character who isn't see much after this, but it does give us an inside view and just how Byzantine in the most literal sense and messed up the Empire's internal politics and factions are. And a nice stern reminder of what exactly Yui is dipping her fingers into as she tries to operate at the top of the snake pit.
I'd say this was an extensive backstory for a guy who's probably going to be a minor character who isn't see much after this, but it does give us an inside view and just how Byzantine in the most literal sense and messed up the Empire's internal politics and factions are. And a nice stern reminder of what exactly Yui is dipping her fingers into as she tries to operate at the top of the snake pit.
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Groovy to see this back. I think...
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Edit: oops, missed the vote. Oh well. Still good to see it.
Just how manyPeriphery oops Outer Rim Clans oops Merc companies could we sustain, I wonder.
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Edit: oops, missed the vote. Oh well. Still good to see it.
Well... if our personal/household budget extends to comfortably refitting the entire 13th fleet... what, 120+ naval ships?
Just how many
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i mean you could try, but this is the sort of thing that tilts the IRG into arresting you under ISA and tossing you into foxthot gitmo. Detention without trial, do not pass go, do not colloect 200 fox dollars. Because, y'know, it looks like you're creating a private army to overthrow the Empress.Groovy to see this back. I think...
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Edit: oops, missed the vote. Oh well. Still good to see it.
Well... if our personal/household budget extends to comfortably refitting the entire 13th fleet... what, 120+ naval ships?
Just how manyPeripheryoops Outer RimClansoops Merc companies could we sustain, I wonder.
Remember, it's true that Salt Admiral needs your fleet split up to assist loyalists... bit it also true that disbanding 13th Fleet removes takes away your fleet that is loyal to you.
...althouh to be honest, I mean, if Yui ends up in gitmo I can still roll with that. I just move the quest to QQ and title the sequel as "I was an Imperial Princes but now I am Prisoner 6969 and must survive prison where everyone wants to feast on me sexually".
or we swap POV to Salt Admiral and begin Salt Admiral Quest: Salt is Unbreakable, i.e. "My Niece got herself arrested and now I have to unfuck the Navy and the Empress alone and resist my wife's seductive tilting advances."
....i will confess to feeling the temptation to reboot this quest and start over with Salt Admiral and his Salt Adjutant foxwife because salt flavors things
Always Late
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Once a bote fucker, always a bote fucker.shit, he already thinks of her as his wife, he's gonna autofail every roll to resist tilting
Thebigpieman
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Shit, he's betrayed Fubuki for a Foxthot. All is lost now.shit, he already thinks of her as his wife, he's gonna autofail every roll to resist tilting
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Look he might have love and affection for his old command, but let's face it, a warship can't do for him what Amagi does.
...also I realise I am taking Roy Choi's advice to heart, and putting in lots of salt to season the story.
Axslashel
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You've read the johnny side right? Amagi is basically AL Amagi
Like, she does so much for him on a daily basis... so. Many. Things.
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pantherasapiens
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[X] Present. You can play a role in her education and life, to a reasonable extent. You're giving up a certain degree of independence, but you're not completely chained to Ahri.
Voting to get lemons cos that's the kind of cancer Whiskey promised me
Voting to get lemons cos that's the kind of cancer Whiskey promised me
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Nooo! We were only assembling them to protect our beloved cousin-sort of niece imouto-semiadopted daughter slumber party tail brush chan Empress!
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It's a... strange and complex, uh, familial relationship at play, alright.
But while the proposal was a joke, my thinking was actually from that angle of the 'protect the Empress best we can'. Like the Byzantine Emperors who found that in forces from outside the Empire, outside politics, outside the highly political IRG.
Anyway. We know the Great Houses have extensive military forces, but what about the Greatest House? (Yeah, I went there, suck it Sumeragi). Does House Akasha have similar holdings and forces, outside its existence as the Imperial House? If so, is the Empress also the 'head of the family' and able to direct House Akasha and it's forces in the same way as Lady Sumeragi does hers, say?
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Whiskey Golf
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The IRG serves the multiple roles of Empress protection, protecting the Empress' holdings of Takama-ga-Hara (a litle over twice the number of inhabited developed systems thst Sumeragi has), serving an equivalent role as the house forces, kempetai spying on other people memes, and a whole shitload of things that i keep meaning to put into the infodump doc (that I keep forgetting to write). Which, again, is another Sumeragi salt; their forces are just ducal forces having authority only in their area, but that bitch Hagoromo jumps up her household troops into becomming a force standing on the same stage as the Imperial Defense Forces (Army, Navy, Marine Corps). You don't see the leader of the Sumeragi ducal guard sotting on the Regency Council, but there you see Baroness Tarisa Manandal, Commanding General of the IRG.
That said, outside the IRG, you'd have the various planetary defense forces. Each planet is going to have its own LE and security forces - the IRG and IN's job is tomfight the space battle. But the PDFs dont have power projection into space, they're meant for planetary garrisons not going off invading people. (Will talking about the Imperial Police Force in a later date. tl;dr Fox Mounties/FBI.)
tl;dr: outside of the IN and the IRG the only forces the Imperial House has are the local PDFs. But even then there's a whole civilian vs military chain of command thing going on. Hagoromo was fairly progressive by oir and fox standards and was a believer in the idea of civilian control of the military, but not really a believer in the idea of the empress having direct control of the military. Mainly because after the war of founding she didnt want even more work, she wanted to have some time to play with her husband and her figurine collection, as opposed to no time.
Alas Sumeragi aren't quite as progressive as thst and so you have the case where the current sumeragi Grand Duchess and her daughter have never had any military training but could directly command their forces in battle. rip.
Also if you thought familial relations were weird, like, there's also the matter of Ahri ineptly trying to seduce Yui in the last update, which Yui was completely oblivious to. I want people to keep thst in mind when rereading her convo with Salt Admiral where she complains nobody is romantically interested in her.
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Always Late
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Call me a sucker for Star Wars, but I can't help but wonder what the line is on things like anti-orbital missiles/guns/whathaveyou.
Gotta have every version of Saber, ya know?Hagoromo was fairly progressive by oir and fox standards and was a believer in the idea of civilian control of the military, but not really a believer in the idea of the empress having direct control of the military. Mainly because after the war of founding she didnt want even more work, she wanted to have some time to okay with her husband and her figurine collection.
... I at least have the consolation there's someone even more oblivious than me.Also if you thought familial relations were weird, like, there's also the matter of Ahri ineptly trying to seduce Yui in the last update, which Yui was completely oblivious to. I want people to keep thst in mind when rereading her convo with Salt Admiral where she complains nobody is romantically interested in her.
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Generally ground based weapons reach up to lower and mid earth orbit, and are primarily anticipated to be used against incoming dropships: any warships that control the orbitals can just move out of range of your ground based weapons and bombard you from orbit. This is why the IMC has "fighters", as does the Imperial Army Aerospace Corps, with the main tasking in IMC and IAAC use being to 1) secure air superiority against enemy fighters, 2) perform SEAD/DEAD missions against enemy air defenses, and 3) provide CAS to the ground force once it's engaged in combat (though that is generally the task of dropships). The typical air element for an orbital assault will see a mix of fighters, dropships and gunships.
Or, because unlike so many other authors, military doctrine in this verse is inspired by the 21st century, as opposed to the Age of Sail, we're talking analogous roles to the F-35B, MV-22 and AH-1Z in USMC service.
Gotta have every version of Saber, ya know?
To be more accurate, my mental image of Hagoromo is Tamafox.
It's a bit of a legend lost to the mists of time, but the Imperial Family actually owns the Senyum Baik Company, which makes various figurines and things. Hagoromo made them an offer they couldn't refuse and bought them a few years into her reign
Always Late
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Oh right. Never really picked up shields weren't a thing in this story. That's an important detail to know.
*laughs in stealth*I can't wait for Space!Russian salt.
Ok, I'll bite. Did hubby buy "Groundwork Labs"?To be more accurate, my mental image of Hagoromo is Tamafox.
It's a bit of a legend lost to the mists of time, but the Imperial Family actually owns the Senyum Baik Company, which makes various figurines and things. Hagoromo made them an offer they couldn't refuse and bought them a few years into her reign