Magical Girl Monster Quest

Huh. About how long does this thread normally go between updates?
 
Ummm... I don't think that was a yes/no question...
 
I was just wondering the average time...
Comes and goes, really. Started out pretty fast, as all quests do. From what I can remember it goes a couple weeks without updating, then has two or three within the week and takes a break again. Probably really a schedule of "when the author is good and ready" though.
 
For Sufficient Velocity:
Hello all! This is the first Quest I've actually gotten to participate in. It isn't the first I've read, though. I polished off what's written, including comments, in a few hours, and I have a few things to add:
That is a lot of words. Like, a lot. I'm pretty sure that you've got more words than half my story posts. For a first post, that's a good start.
Things I can respond to without spoilers (I'm just going down the list and commenting on your questions):

Actually, the Black Legion are the walking 40k reference, though they're rather bad at it.

Well. Yes, that would kill Heart, I suppose.

Weapons are certainly available, and are certainly options, although this is still Japan. You can certainly try to get guns, although a foreign middle-schooler living alone trying to arm themself will raise eyebrows.

Martial arts are certainly a thing you could do. However, keep in mind that a lot of martial arts is either designed for or against humans, rendering it limited when, for example, you have four extra limbs to punch with, or is a closely guarded secret meant only for a select group, such as the secret martial art of the Kagemusha.

The weakening effect was a result of your opponent's wrath flames. They were trying to secure an advantage, which would have worked much better if you'd stuck around.
Yes, you could indulge in a criminal enterprise. However, that would take time and effort, and make enemies. Is it worth the benefits? That's up to you.

Yes, the Kaleidoscope can fly. No, they have not been trained by their mystic wands; they're only partially a magical girl group. They're also a reference to another item entirely, as hinted by their opponent and their powerset. Collateral Damage, aka the Wreckers, was actually written as a foil for the Kagemusha clan. Of course, when storylines start interfering with each other, nothing goes quite as planned. For example, they've just had a close encounter with a Black Legion strike team. Suffice to say, quite a lot of plans have been derailed. The Warriors are interesting, and I'm kind of sad they haven't gotten more screentime yet. That's life, I suppose. The Choir, despite their unassuming nature, are arguably the second or third most dangerous group "onscreen", so to speak. They compensate for their lack of power with skill and intelligence. However, opposing them is perfectly feasible, if you are intelligent and careful. The Princesses are indeed scary, and you should be very afraid.

The sword is an arming sword. It is very bland, by design.

We are! We get stat boosts every time we indulge our Pride: generating more situations in which we can do that is more effective than mere training, because we also get to do things like advance the plot and make more allies, which and who we can then use as opportunities to be prouder, ad infinitum.
Yes, mostly. By acting Prideful, you increase the power of your ability. However, to gain skill in the application of your ability, you must still practice with it. If you want to pull off fancy tricks, or get a handle on whatever this new glowing thing lets you do, you'll have to work for it.
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-[1] Try to take The Sword of the King. After all, swords are great for diplomacy.

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[11][Do] Elevate your Pride slightly to deal with collateral damage and get a good vantage point to gaze down upon the spectacle for your amusement, then equip the monocle to see what's going on. See if your stalker has any popcorn.

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[11][Say] *In the most grandiose voice you can manage* "Would the duelists kindly introduce themselves and what they fight for?"

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-[1][Secretly] See if you an access/find out about the power without alerting anyone
Total No. of Voters: 11
I'd like to say the update will come soon, but in all honesty, updates happen when I have the time to write, and that isn't always something I get to do.
 
[X] [Say] *In the most grandiose voice you can manage* "Would the duelists kindly introduce themselves and what they fight for?"
[X] [Do] Elevate your Pride slightly to deal with collateral damage and get a good vantage point to gaze down upon the spectacle for your amusement, then equip the monocle to see what's going on. See if your stalker has any popcorn.

The Royal Stalker will bring me much joy. Being Shirogane, its a given. Possible upgrades for the class are Royal Thief and Royal Consort.

Red and White are crazy. Lets watch.
 
That is a lot of words. Like, a lot. I'm pretty sure that you've got more words than half my story posts. For a first post, that's a good start.
*Beams*
Actually, the Black Legion are the walking 40k reference, though they're rather bad at it.
I'm pleasantly surprised. I hope they don't follow the fans' general opinion of "Failbaddon." Still, 40k? I know 40k. However, are any of the others, such as the Kaleidoscope, references?
Well. Yes, that would kill Heart, I suppose.

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! My plan, if it worked, would succeed in its objective! Still, would it keep her from ressurecting?

Weapons are certainly available, and are certainly options, although this is still Japan. You can certainly try to get guns, although a foreign middle-schooler living alone trying to arm themself will raise eyebrows.

We are in danger of being assassinated by a crime syndicate that uses supernatural force. As is natural, perfection draws attention. A good king must keep himself safe. It is his duty to his people.

Martial arts are certainly a thing you could do. However, keep in mind that a lot of martial arts is either designed for or against humans, rendering it limited when, for example, you have four extra limbs to punch with, or is a closely guarded secret meant only for a select group, such as the secret martial art of the Kagemusha.
Not everyone will be on fire, so there will be some use. Also, we need an excuse for our capabilities beyond "magic Sin" unless we want to be hunted as a Daemon.

The weakening effect was a result of your opponent's wrath flames. They were trying to secure an advantage, which would have worked much better if you'd stuck around.
Yes, you could indulge in a criminal enterprise. However, that would take time and effort, and make enemies. Is it worth the benefits? That's up to you.
Still want to study the sword, but it's nice to know it doesn't drain us to work.
As for the criminals... we'll see.

Yes, the Kaleidoscope can fly. No, they have not been trained by their mystic wands; they're only partially a magical girl group. They're also a reference to another item entirely, as hinted by their opponent and their powerset. Collateral Damage, aka the Wreckers, was actually written as a foil for the Kagemusha clan. Of course, when storylines start interfering with each other, nothing goes quite as planned. For example, they've just had a close encounter with a Black Legion strike team. Suffice to say, quite a lot of plans have been derailed. The Warriors are interesting, and I'm kind of sad they haven't gotten more screentime yet. That's life, I suppose. The Choir, despite their unassuming nature, are arguably the second or third most dangerous group "onscreen", so to speak. They compensate for their lack of power with skill and intelligence. However, opposing them is perfectly feasible, if you are intelligent and careful. The Princesses are indeed scary, and you should be very afraid.
A) When we were voting, it was noted that the Kaleidoscope claimed they were trained by their mystic wands. It was also noted later for a reason to disdain MG groups: With the exception of Collateral Damage and possibly the K, due to the wands thing, they hadn't earned their powers.
B) What are they a reference to? I don't know Manga in general.
C) Nice to know the Wreckers are Collateral Damage, and that they will be foiling the Kagemusha clan.
D) The Warriors have Magic Swords. I want to know if we can take them and equip a squad of elite youma with them.
E) The Choir sound utterly terrifying. They're only the second or third most dangerous group?

The sword is an arming sword. It is very bland, by design.
Yes, mostly. By acting Prideful, you increase the power of your ability. However, to gain skill in the application of your ability, you must still practice with it. If you want to pull off fancy tricks, or get a handle on whatever this new glowing thing lets you do, you'll have to work for it.
Sword: But it didn't get shattered or anything by the Wrath Flames, it's made of a strange black material. Does it at least affect intangible things or is stronger/lighter or have some reason to not be made of steel?
Prideful: That's my entire point!


Edit: Would do a new post, but no new posts. So, edit:

I have two quotes to go over:

"Exposition? What am I, an NPC?" he mutters incredulously. "Well, there's a lot of complicated stuff about it, but I'll try to keep it simple. This chick, and probably her associate, were both members of the Kagemusha clan of Daemons. The Kagemusha clan was founded, as far as we know, during the Sengoku period, roughly 500 years ago. They ruled the area as cruel tyrants, growing ever more powerful all the way up until 1854, when they fought in the Boshin War, and lost. Badly. They spent the next century restoring their power, and then World War Two happened, and they basically had to start over again. Unfortunately, their resurgence has occurred with a speed and efficiency that can only be called alarming. However, they also made a number of enemies in their rise. One of them is the leader of our Wrecking Crew, who used to be a member of their clan before she saw through their lies and chose to join the forces of good and fight against them instead of for them. Now, she recruits those who have no purpose and no hope to fight with her for a greater cause against a greater enemy. Questions?"

"Why did we have to come onto a roof to talk about this?" you inquire immediately.

He blinks. "Well, you know how I mentioned they were Daemons? That basically means that they embody the Seven Deadly Sins so strongly that they can actually use them to do things. For example, a Wrathful Sinner, like the one you saw, could create fire, or make their own touch injurious, or a Prideful Sinner could make themselves faster, or tougher, or a Slothful Sinner could make others slower or make themselves faster by storing energy. One of their family heirlooms allows them to create some sort of detection network around the area. We don't know quite how it works, but it was probably triggered by your encounter. So we're waiting up here to see what shows up."

You frown. That...doesn't make sense. They'd seemed perfectly adequate Sinners to you. But what he's describing makes them sound incompetent, almost childish. You'd picked up the skill of simultaneously augmenting yourself in speed and strength and toughness by the time you were ten. And yes, you were a bit of a prodigy, but you knew Wrath's apprentice (that asshole) could not only create fire which was actively injurious to his opponents, and could project it along his weapons. It was why he was such a gun nut, after all. So, were they incompetent? Was this woman more skilled than she seemed and had you just gotten lucky? Was the organization just less powerful than you realized?

...I'm Shinku Kui, lieutenant of the Wreckers, also known as the Crimson Man. My specialty is using blood to empower myself."

...
How do you reply?
[] I'm Victor Crowne. I'm just a normal kid who got lucky.
[] I'm Victor Crowne. I just happen to have some significant martial arts training.
[] I'm Victor Crowne, expert martial artist, and I've been training since I could walk.
[] Actually, I'd quite like you to finish answering my friend's question please. She's raised some relevant concerns, in my opinion.
[] I'm Victor Crowne, Daemon of Pride. You can't take me, trust me. (Unlocked by Pride)
Invisitext:
[] I'm Victor Crowne, Daemon of Pride. Would you do me a favor, Mr. Shinku, and please die?
[] I'm Victor Crowne, Daemon of Pride. I'm sorry, but all of you need to die now. (Unlocked by Chronic Backstabbing Disorder)

So:
To pass the time, I comb over details: here are my new questions:
1. So the leader of the Wrecking Crew used to be Kagemusha? Is there any way of investigating her possible betrayal of her order, or some Kagemusha plot- or even if she simply split to gain personal power? Also, how did she discover Ki if she founded the Wreckers but came from the Kagemusha? Didn't she use Sin?
2. The detection network is made by a family heirloom? So the incompetence of the Kagemusha in matters of Sin is possible, at least. Could we track and steal that heirloom?
3. Shinku Kui, also known as the Crimson Man. Did he just tell us his real name? Is he on the run, or fully dedicated to this job? Do none of the wreckers have civilian jobs, and if so, how do they gain funds for food and clothes, if not gear for at least training? Or do some of them devote fully, some work entirely on fundraising... What'a the deal here?
4. Where does he get the blood from? Himself, his friends, bottles, his enemies... does he have to drink into or something?
5. Kaleidoscope does not fight in the real world. But they can fly. Are we likely to learn about any other real-world abilities?

Also, I posted invisitext 'cause I could!


You smirk roguishly and pull yourself to your feet, reaching into your pocket as you do so. You do so love to introduce yourself. Time to be exactly as subtle as you usually are.

"I, " you announce dramatically, "Am Victor Crowne, future God-King of the Universe, and soon I will RULE THE WORLD."

Your phone dramatically thunders, causing Kui to leap halfway to his feet before he realizes that you are the source. Skopeo does some sort of strange full-body twitch. Kaleido, apparently more acclimatized to you, just sighs, and places her hand on her face.

"I...see?" Kui offers hesitantly. He doesn't seem quite sure of his assertion.

Kaleido reaches out and pats him on the shoulder. "Don't worry, you get used to it." she assures him.

"Do you really?" he murmurs.

Undeterred by this arbitrary skepticism, you continue. "Though I am not a magical teenager, neither am I a normal one. I have always striven to be the king. The king must always be the greatest, or he is unfit to be the king, as he cannot rule his subjects properly. Moreover, a king must be able to safeguard his kingdom. A king who is too weak to rule or to protect his subjects does not deserve the title of king. Therefore, I have trained myself from a youthful age to better serve the interests of my people."

"...an interesting viewpoint." Kui muses blankly. "And you, miss... Kaleido?" (Invisitext: Damn. This kid sounds like he's halfway to being a Daemon already. If the Kagemusha get their hands on him, there's no telling what they might turn him into.)

...


"People think. They imagine. They dream. What they don't realize is that their dreams have power. Every dream they dream changes the world, just a little bit. It leaves a unique mark on the world. The real world doesn't change, but the imaginary world, the one that underlies reality, does. And just because it isn't real doesn't mean it doesn't matter. You see, the imaginary world, the Shadow Layer, is a reflection of reality. But if you change the reflection, you can change the thing being reflected. And sometimes, those reflections don't want to stay in the mirror. When they leave the Shadow Layer and start influencing the world, they become Nightmares. Monsters made of things that were once dreams, become madness. Unfortunately, in reality, they can only be driven off, not killed. To kill a Nightmare, you have to walk into the Shadow Layer and harry it to its domain before killing it. Which is what we do. We put on Archetypes and hunt down particularly malicious Nightmares. That's what we were doing tonight. We staked out the area, found A Girl's Best Friend, and stepped into the Shadow Layer and killed it."

She shrugs. "Basically, we hunt the Boogeyman. All of him. Questions?"
(More invisitext: What. How did we not know about this? This is going to be a problem. Hopefully we can get something out of this.)

...

"So how do you get into the Shadow Layer?" Kui inquires.

"You have to have an Archetype." Kaleido replies immediately. "If you do, you can feel locations of significant emotion and use them to transition across. It's surprisingly easy, once you have an Archetype."

"And what, exactly, is an Archetype?" This time you choose to speak up.

"Well, an Archetype is a dream or idea which has become so ossified or calcified that it can't become a Nightmare at all, or a concept which is so new and fragile that it would just be subsumed in the Shadow Layer. In either case, it seeks out and bonds with a human host, who can then express it's powers. For example, I'm bonded with the Archetype of Magical Girl Warrior, which is new and relatively fragile, while Skopeo is bonded with the Archetype of Voice of God, which is an old and incredibly powerful one, but also rather temperamental."

"That's an impressive set of powers, but it seems rather limited." This observation comes from Kui.

"we manage" You twitch.

"Yeah, but how do you deal with them when they get into the real world?"

"Usually, we just wait them out, and then track them back to their domain." Kaleido confesses sheepishly.

Kui's teeth flash. "It sounds to me, then, that we might have something to offer each other here. You sound like you need muscle to help you out in the real world, and we could really use a few unconventional assets. And new recruits, especially one of your skill, are always welcome Victor. You'd probably have the chance to rise to the top pretty fast, if you played your cards right."

So. For this next quote, here come the questions:
1. So, we have our phone set to dramatically thunder at the push of a button? Does that mean we have a leitmotif now, or was it the sound of actual thunder, normally made by lightning?
2. So, should we worry about the first invisitext?
3. How do archetypes work, beyond providing power? Does Kaleido's "Magical Girl" provide flight and only flight, or energy blasts or something? Does "Voice of God" mean like Moses? So the power is temperamental to the level of Deus ex Machina- insta winning sometimes, all based on dramatic effect and stuff? Or is it like the Pillar of Fire/ Burning Bush, and Skopeo is the one who is temperamental as a result? Should we worry?
4: In the second invisitext, who is thinking that?
5: How much Sin were we using? If we have so much potential, how skilled are we in comparison to a Wrecker?

Also: hahahahaha! I love our cloudcuckoolander approach to introductions!
 
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I'm pleasantly surprised. I hope they don't follow the fans' general opinion of "Failbaddon." Still, 40k? I know 40k. However, are any of the others, such as the Kaleidoscope, references?

A) When we were voting, it was noted that the Kaleidoscope claimed they were trained by their mystic wands. It was also noted later for a reason to disdain MG groups: With the exception of Collateral Damage and possibly the K, due to the wands thing, they hadn't earned their powers.
B) What are they a reference to? I don't know Manga in general.
C) Nice to know the Wreckers are Collateral Damage, and that they will be foiling the Kagemusha clan.
D) The Warriors have Magic Swords. I want to know if we can take them and equip a squad of elite youma with them.
E) The Choir sound utterly terrifying. They're only the second or third most dangerous group?
In order:
Everyone's a reference to something or other.
That's just poor wording on my part. It's less training, more a partnership. Think Raising Heart or Derflinger rather than the Kaleidosticks or a Holocron.
Finding the reference is half the fun!
Well, they were, but there was some...unexpected interference.
Only the leader has a sword, the rest of them have a varied assortment of weapons.
 
A) Victor noted specifically that they said they had been trained. Maybe this could be poor wording on their part instead, and this could be a plot point 'cause Diligence?
B) The Wreckers and Collateral Damage split or something? What was the interference?
C) I don't know what Derflinger is.
D) It's nice to know the Warriors have some variety in their weapons. I am still focused on the possibilities of them being stolen for loot. And as to whether the Warriors will still have their powers, or at least be able to summon or find their particular weapon. Need to know how necessary killing them is. D&D rule one: Don't steal Pelor's stuff unless you can hide from Pelor.
E) I am still terrified of the Choir. Are the Princesses one of the groups that are more dangerous than them?
 
A) Victor noted specifically that they said they had been trained. Maybe this could be poor wording on their part instead, and this could be a plot point 'cause Diligence?
Unequal partnership.
Nanoha was taught by Raising Heart, and generally just listened at first, then graduated past.

If asked regarding her teacher she'd have said RH.
We are in danger of being assassinated by a crime syndicate that uses supernatural force. As is natural, perfection draws attention. A good king must keep himself safe. It is his duty to his people
Based on our demonstrated skills, I think we got it covered. Just need to refine our Pride more.
 
Except we are trying not to use our Pride in a blatant manner. And back at character creation, it was noted that a Wrath character would beat a Pride character in combat. Meaning, with the Pride character going all out.

A gun would be quite believable for a mortal, and a simple pistol would likely last allow us to eliminate Wrathful beings, who could beat us, without using our Pride for anything other than speed if needed.
And a bulletproof vest would help once the Kagemusha grow up and send an assassin with actual weapons. Unless it's some weird honor-reputation thing. They were trying to cut costs, but if they use anything but Magical force, it looks like their Sin users are incompetent and they lose face...
 
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[X] [Say] *In the most grandiose voice you can manage* "Would the duelists kindly introduce themselves and what they fight for?"
[X] [Do] Elevate your Pride slightly to deal with collateral damage and get a good vantage point to gaze down upon the spectacle for your amusement, then equip the monocle to see what's going on. See if your stalker has any popcorn.
 
[X] [Say] *In the most grandiose voice you can manage* "Would the duelists kindly introduce themselves and what they fight for?"
[X] [Do] Elevate your Pride slightly to deal with collateral damage and get a good vantage point to gaze down upon the spectacle for your amusement, then equip the monocle to see what's going on. See if your stalker has any popcorn.
 
Except we are trying not to use our Pride in a blatant manner. And back at character creation, it was noted that a Wrath character would beat a Pride character in combat. Meaning, with the Pride character going all out.

A gun would be quite believable for a mortal, and a simple pistol oil drillers likely last allow us to eliminate Wrathful beings, who could beat us, without using our Pride for anything other than speed if needed.
And a bulletproof vest would help once the Kagemusha grow up and send an assassin with actual weapons. Unless it's some weird honor-reputation thing. They were trying to cut costs, but if they use anything but Magical force, it looks like their Sin users are incompetent and they lose face...
A few things:
-Not in Japan, especially not in a town infested with magical girls. It would actually gather LESS attention to be seen glowing gold and wielding a sword here than to be seen with a gun. The color themes would fit right in on the heroic side.
-And we're extremely resistant to physical damage, while bulletproof vests are markedly less useful when none of your opponents use bullets over swords and energy beams. It's magical damage we're bad with.

If you want combat ability, our sword is currently the best option. It's deadly enough, and we have at least two people swinging around magic swords right in front of us already.

If you want defense ability, look for countermagic. That's our weak point.

Make use of our Diligence to get faster and stronger. Our build makes a low level speedster style quite effective, since few things will penetrate PrideAura without a direct hit, so as long as we can avoid that they'd find it hard to mark us.

Make use of our charisma to recruit magical girls to our side. They're the local powers and there's a fair number who're unaligned. Always could use some minions specialized in fighting our weakest mode of combat.
 
A bulletproof vest would protect us from bullets, specifically. The point is, we can't really defend ourselves, even with all our powers, against a sniper- unless the golden skin can prevent bullets from penetrating. Even if it does, though, I'd like to be able to get up afterwards without too many bruises- skin combined with vest.

Edit: Then gun would Ben specifically for Wrathful foes, since fighting them would lead to our deaths. We need a way to fight at long range, and the Rings thought a pistol was a possible option, even ignoring we voted otherwise. We already sworded a guy, then stabbed him in the head. We are pragmatic, and can claim the gun is mean to keep them away, not killing them.

Also, the Wreckers fight the Kagemusha. They know damn well that gold means blatant, puppy-kicking evil. And we lied. Best NOT to say "but I'm golden! That's heroic, right?"

Also, the magical girls need to be eliminated, as we are a 7 Rings operative sent to establish a foothold in Japan. We need to seem effective, not excuse making. We need to gain power with the Rings, take out all of our enemies, and then backstab the Rings too.

Yay, no more villains for a tiny bit!
Then we can focus on ruling the world.
 
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A bulletproof vest would protect us from bullets, specifically. The point is, we can't really defend ourselves, even with all our powers, against a sniper- unless the golden skin can prevent bullets from penetrating. Even if it does, though, I'd like to be able to get up afterwards without too many bruises- skin combined with vest.
What sniper?
 
A bulletproof vest would protect us from bullets, specifically. The point is, we can't really defend ourselves, even with all our powers, against a sniper- unless the golden skin can prevent bullets from penetrating. Even if it does, though, I'd like to be able to get up afterwards without too many bruises- skin combined with vest.
Pride-A King, Immaculate: You are the King, and the King is pure. You are significantly resistant to physical damage. You are somewhat resistant to magical damage. You have a mild healing factor which restores you overnight.
Yes, it does protect us against bullets. It's probably even more effective than a bulletproof vest.

There's also nothing to suggest we're going to be targeted by snipers.
 
We are facing a criminal empire trying to rebuild itself. Best not to take any chances- without foreward preparation, a sniper assault is practically a Diabolos Ex Machina.

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And again, a high-powered rifle will often penetrate bulletproof vests, while machine guns practically ignore them. This is not about sudden invincibility; it's about our Pride not yet making us truly invincible and needing Armor stacked on top to stack the deck. We use invincibility as our big plan- let's get to invincibility quicker and take Pride in our foresight.

I will admit I like the idea of using Diligence to become a Lightning Bruiser...
 
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We are facing a criminal empire trying to rebuild itself. Best not to take any chances- without foreward preparation, a sniper assault is practically a Diabolos Ex Machina.
Bulletproof vests really aren't as effective as most people believe, you know. They also don't protect against headshots, unless you also want to constantly walk around with a helmet on. Walking around while wearing a bulletproof vest is also pretty suspicious. Really, our Pride is much more effective. And nothing so far suggests that the bad guys use snipers. If they did, they wouldn't have send the last two assassins to directly kill us.
 
Again, stupidity once does not mean stupidity twice. Also, a lighter vest would not be noticed, is just supposed to add to our Pride's defenses (I noted this the first time I suggested it, and again...), is not suspicious (assassins want to kill us! We promised Kaho we'd stay safe!) and finally, snipers generally seem to aim for the heart, most likely because the head is a better target. In any case, our head has hair. We can put the Golden Skin up there, and use the vest to increase our survival chances by protecting us on our chest.
 
We are facing a criminal empire trying to rebuild itself. Best not to take any chances- without foreward preparation, a sniper assault is practically a Diabolos Ex Machina.
And Diabolus Ex Machinae are shitty writing. The QM has displayed no signs of being a shitty writer.
Add to that that nothing has given indication that snipers are or ever will be something we need to worry about, and I arrive at the conclusion that you're shadowrunning unnecessarily.
 
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