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[x] I'm Victor Crowne, Daemon of Pride. You can't take me, trust me. (Unlocked by Pride)

If this doesn't alienate everyone, I'm all for it!
 
[x] I am Victor Crowne. A king must have the power to protect his subjects, and as future king of the universe, I kept that in mind and trained.
-[X] "I stabbed him with a sword."
--[X] "I mentioned this earlier, didn't I?"

I like this one, it makes us seem like we are in disbelife over the fact that we have just killed. Possibly in shock due to the lack of extreme reaction.
 
[x] I am Victor Crowne. A king must have the power to protect his subjects, and as future king of the universe, I kept that in mind and trained.
 
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017 - Your magic, White Rabbit
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    • [X] I am Victor Crowne. A king must have the power to protect his subjects, and as future king of the universe, I kept that in mind and trained.

    You smirk roguishly and pull yourself to your feet, reaching into your pocket as you do so. You do so love to introduce yourself. Time to be exactly as subtle as you usually are.

    "I, " you announce dramatically, "Am Victor Crowne, future God-King of the Universe, and soon I will RULE THE WORLD."

    Your phone dramatically thunders, causing Kui to leap halfway to his feet before he realizes that you are the source. Skopeo does some sort of strange full-body twitch. Kaleido, apparently more acclimatized to you, just sighs, and places her hand on her face.

    "I...see?" Kui offers hesitantly. He doesn't seem quite sure of his assertion.

    Kaleido reaches out and pats him on the shoulder. "Don't worry, you get used to it." she assures him.

    "Do you really?" he murmurs.

    Undeterred by this arbitrary skepticism, you continue. "Though I am not a magical teenager, neither am I a normal one. I have always striven to be the king. The king must always be the greatest, or he is unfit to be the king, as he cannot rule his subjects properly. Moreover, a king must be able to safeguard his kingdom. A king who is too weak to rule or to protect his subjects does not deserve the title of king. Therefore, I have trained myself from a youthful age to better serve the interests of my people."

    "...an interesting viewpoint." Kui muses blankly. "And you, miss... Kaleido? Damn. This kid sounds like he's halfway to being a Daemon already. If the Kagemusha get their hands on him, there's no telling what they might turn him into.
    "I suppose it's my turn to share my origin story." she begins " I used to be a normal girl, for certain values of normal. I had no idea that the supernatural existed, and this is my first experience with magical entities which fall outside my...direct purview. So, um, this is a bit of a surprise to me. I became aware of magic when a friend who made some poor choices got dragged into it. I did what I had to do to save her. I regret it a little bit, but someone has to do it."

    Having said her piece, she turns to her friend and emphatically nudges her. She gets a skeptical look for her trouble, and keeps nudging her. Finally, her companion acquiesces. You brace yourself.

    "was created for this. parental unit trained me as a... spiritualist to stop the coming dark. insufficient. had to contract with an archetype."Her explanation grates, and also manages to be supremely uninformative.

    You sigh.

    "Look, we're all on the same side here," you assert. "Certain moral quandaries aside, we all want to do our best to help the people of this city and keep them safe. But to do that, we need to know the things that we're all trying to keep them safe from. If you don't tell us what we need to fight, we might not be able to fight it effectively, and then it might escape to wreak havoc and cause untold destruction. Kui's told us at least a little about what he fights. We need to know what you fight."

    Kaleido and Skopeo pause and exchange a deep and meaningful glance, loaded with all sorts of deep and insightful thoughts, as a conversation of immense import passes between them in the span of a second. That, or they're trying to decide who has to deal with this.

    "Okay," Kaleido concedes. "You're right."

    Everyone else on the rooftop turns and gawks at her.

    She blinks at the sudden staring. "Is...something wrong?"

    "No, you're just being unexpectedly reasonable," you point out. "In movies and whatnot, you'd refuse to share the information until it got one of us injured, at which point there'd be a desperate race against time for you to get us the information we needed and put it into play. Unless it was markedly darker in tone, in which case, one of us would just die because of the information you didn't share, in a manner meant to blatantly guilt-trip you, in order to teach you the importance of trusting your allies."

    "Well, that's stupid, and life's not a TV show." Kaleido retorts. "Now, shut up and let me explain."

    You shut up and wait.

    "People think. They imagine. They dream. What they don't realize is that their dreams have power. Every dream they dream changes the world, just a little bit. It leaves a unique mark on the world. The real world doesn't change, but the imaginary world, the one that underlies reality, does. And just because it isn't real doesn't mean it doesn't matter. You see, the imaginary world, the Shadow Layer, is a reflection of reality. But if you change the reflection, you can change the thing being reflected. And sometimes, those reflections don't want to stay in the mirror. When they leave the Shadow Layer and start influencing the world, they become Nightmares. Monsters made of things that were once dreams, become madness. Unfortunately, in reality, they can only be driven off, not killed. To kill a Nightmare, you have to walk into the Shadow Layer and harry it to its domain before killing it. Which is what we do. We put on Archetypes and hunt down particularly malicious Nightmares. That's what we were doing tonight. We staked out the area, found A Girl's Best Friend, and stepped into the Shadow Layer and killed it."

    She shrugs. "Basically, we hunt the Boogeyman. All of him. Questions?"
    What. How did we not know about this? This is going to be a problem. Hopefully we can get something out of this.
    What questions do you have about this? (Pick four)
    [] Write-in

    "So how do you get into the Shadow Layer?" Kui inquires.

    "You have to have an Archetype." Kaleido replies immediately. "If you do, you can feel locations of significant emotion and use them to transition across. It's surprisingly easy, once you have an Archetype."

    "And what, exactly, is an Archetype?" This time you choose to speak up.

    "Well, an Archetype is a dream or idea which has become so ossified or calcified that it can't become a Nightmare at all, or a concept which is so new and fragile that it would just be subsumed in the Shadow Layer. In either case, it seeks out and bonds with a human host, who can then express it's powers. For example, I'm bonded with the Archetype of Magical Girl Warrior, which is new and relatively fragile, while Skopeo is bonded with the Archetype of Voice of God, which is an old and incredibly powerful one, but also rather temperamental."

    "That's an impressive set of powers, but it seems rather limited." This observation comes from Kui.

    "we manage" You twitch.

    "Yeah, but how do you deal with them when they get into the real world?"

    "Usually, we just wait them out, and then track them back to their domain." Kaleido confesses sheepishly.

    Kui's teeth flash. "It sounds to me, then, that we might have something to offer each other here. You sound like you need muscle to help you out in the real world, and we could really use a few unconventional assets. And new recruits, especially one of your skill, are always welcome Victor. You'd probably have the chance to rise to the top pretty fast, if you played your cards right."

    "Whaddya say? Feel like joining the Wreckers?"

    You...were not expecting a recruiting attempt. What do you say?
    [] No thanks. You guys aren't really to my taste, legally and morally speaking.
    [] No thanks. Your aesthetics really don't appeal to me.
    [] No thanks. I work alone.
    [] Sure. I'd be happy to join you guys.
    [] Sure. I might not join formally, but I'd be happy to work with you.
    [] Sure. I won't join, but I'll stay in touch.
    [] Write-in.
    QM: So my country just did something incredibly stupid in the elections. Instead of stewing about it, I'm going to write things instead.
     
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    • Questions:
    [X] Are nightmares sapient? If so, can they be reasoned with?

    [X] Can nightmares be bonded with like an archetype? Is the method safe and easy to reproduce? Simply pairing up vagrant nightmares with people willing to co-habit with them could prevent violence. Perhaps whatever drives them to harm others could be let out in a more constructive manner, like art.

    [X] Are you okay? Putting your lives at risk like this must be taxing, if you need someone to vent to, find me, that goes for everyone.

    [X] Do you know where one could pick up a loose archetype?

    Recruitment response:

    [X] It isn't my intent to become subservient to my future subjects, as tempting as the offer may be. I have no qualms, however, about staying in touch. Perhaps we can arrange a few sparring matches and exchanges of information so that we are both better prepared for the ordeals to come?

    [X] Sure. I won't join, but I'll stay in touch.

    Response changed, thank you, @Sinarblood .
     
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    [X] Sure. I won't join, but I'll stay in touch.
    [X] Are nightmares sapient? If so, can they be reasoned with?

    [X] Can nightmares be bonded with like an archetype? Is the method safe and easy to reproduce? Simply pairing up vagrant nightmares with people willing to co-habit with them could prevent violence. Perhaps whatever drives them to harm others could be let out in a more constructive manner like art.

    [X] Are you okay? Putting your lives at risk like this must be taxing, if you need someone to vent to, find me, that goes for everyone.

    [X] Do you know where one could pick up a loose archetype?
     
    Hmmm... clearing out the villain mobs amidst the heroes, then turning on your former partners. Tempting. :drevil:
     
    [X] Are nightmares sapient? If so, can they be reasoned with?

    [X] Can nightmares be bonded with like an archetype? Is the method safe and easy to reproduce? Simply pairing up vagrant nightmares with people willing to co-habit with them could prevent violence. Perhaps whatever drives them to harm others could be let out in a more constructive manner, like art.

    [X] Are you okay? Putting your lives at risk like this must be taxing, if you need someone to vent to, find me, that goes for everyone.

    [X] Do you know where one could pick up a loose archetype?

    [X] It isn't my intent to become subservient to my future subjects, as tempting as the offer may be. I have no qualms, however, about staying in touch. Perhaps we can arrange a few sparring matches and exchanges of information so that we are both better prepared for the ordeals to come?
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    [X] Are nightmares sapient? If so, can they be reasoned with?

    [X] Can nightmares be bonded with like an archetype? Is the method safe and easy to reproduce? Simply pairing up vagrant nightmares with people willing to co-habit with them could prevent violence. Perhaps whatever drives them to harm others could be let out in a more constructive manner, like art.

    [X] Are you okay? Putting your lives at risk like this must be taxing, if you need someone to vent to, find me, that goes for everyone.

    [X] Do you know where one could pick up a loose archetype?

    [X] It isn't my intent to become subservient to my future subjects, as tempting as the offer may be. I have no qualms, however, about staying in touch. Perhaps we can arrange a few sparring matches and exchanges of information so that we are both better prepared for the ordeals to come?
     
    [X] Sure. I might not join formally, but I'd be happy to work with you.

    I don't see a difference between the most common write-in and the option below the one I chose.
     
    I like the direction that this vote has taken us, since Kui thinks that we are halfway to daemon already he probably thinks that's why Kagemusha is after us, to turn us into a daemon young to maximize our potential and bring us to heel while we are still young and malleable on top of that.

    Eventually Kui, Skopeo, and Kaleido will find out that yes we are a Daemon but if we want to keep our "trustworthiness" with them there are probably ways to spin it.

    first and most obviously is that when one person just suggested that they are willing to kill daemons in the right circumstances, it kind of makes sense to not say you are a daemon. Hence the "only" reason we didn't tell them that we were a daemon was because one of them was literally a member of a group that kills and hunts daemons. Not our fault we didn't want to die :p.

    On the other hand if Kaho's family really is Daemon related (likely though they could be some other supernatural creature), we could claim latter that we had gotten subverted by her family after these events when we had trusted her. Hence, we hadn't lied, and it would be useful in a situation where Kaho is no longer worth the trouble she causes. If, on the other hand, we get her to pick us over her family (who seem to have a problem with her making friends at the very least so there are probably a few exploitable holes we can use in the relationship), we just have to imply to the group that she "switched sides" due to their acts against us, and have at least Kaleido and Skopeo still side with us.

    Kui is harder to convince because he would expect us to be a liar and backstabber (not that I can blame him) :V

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    [X] It isn't my intent to become subservient to my future subjects, as tempting as the offer may be. I have no qualms, however, about staying in touch. Perhaps we can arrange a few sparring matches and exchanges of information so that we are both better prepared for the ordeals to come?
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    The danger of this write in is that if we are currently playing on the side of the "good guys" we have to pretend to be subservient to at least the current government, and any possible current "good guy magical guidelines" that exist currently if we want to avoid setting off alarm bells. To imply we aren't currently willing to be subservient to any of our future subjects, which by our reasoning is everyone- and they know that- implies that we will do anything we want without being chained by the laws of any society. Its true, but we probably want them to think we are willing to play by the rules for now and not just break them when it is convenient.

    in that vein, just the given option of just saying that we'll not join but keep in touch is much more preferable to me.


    The one thing we probably must not do is actually say we'll join, at least not yet because while Kui didn't have a way to detect Daemon's I'd much prefer not joining up and finding that others in the daemon hunting group actually have a way to detect their enemy :p.

    As an aside, when they do find out we're a daemon, if it is not at a time where it is best to off them, I'd kind of like to convince them that we are a different class of daemon than the Kagemusha. That they are simply adequate sinners, reveling in sin, and drawing strength in it at exclusion of their virtues, erasing their virtues to become a hollow shell full of sin. On the other hand, we are a great sinner, and instead infuse even our virtue in sin, and in doing so enhance both. We are proud of our diligence, and because of our diligence we have worked hard enough to be something to be proud in. from there move on to other virtues that might fall in line with how we have presented ourselves to them "We are proud of our patience and because we have that patience, we haven't foolishly rushed beyond what we are capable of, avoiding useless shame," etc, etc.

    From there we could also remind them that pride need not merely be self centered, for our pride is glorious enough to encompass even more than just ourselves. Pride in your friends, who helped you become as you are, Pride in your allies, who stand by your side. Pride in our future subjects, who despite being less perfect still struggle to survive in a hostile universe.

    Every good trait we possess, infused in Sin to make us more glorious. Our Sin infused with virtue and so made exponentially stronger.

    Try to argue that even if the Kagemusha is evil, we are not. As a daemon it might be easier to fall, but the truly Great are unfased, if not even made better and more glorious for it.

    We are made of Darkness, but Darkness is not inherently evil.

    Even if it doesn't get the Wrecking Crew to not try to kill us, such a speech might foster doubt and get people who were on the fence on our side (or at least not joining in against us).

    Obviously that line of thought could be a complete lie, it just needs to be superficially convincing.



    On the subject of Chronic Backstabbing disorder, while we can indulge in it I don't necessarily think it is a required thing, and we might never have to actually backstab unless the situation calls for it. I base this mainly on the fact that I couldn't imagine any Daemon with the virtue of Kindness backstabbing all their allies.

    Onto the actual vote XD, though I am only going to go with one actually unique write in for questions and the rest will be previously voted ones.

    [X] Are you okay? Putting your lives at risk like this must be taxing, if you need someone to vent to, find me, that goes for everyone.

    I like this mostly because I want minions and things like this can build loyalty down the line, and as a plus gives insight on themselves later on to take advantage of.

    [X] Are nightmares sapient? If so, can they be reasoned with?

    If nightmares are sapient they can be subverted.

    [] Can nightmares be bonded with like an archetype? Is the method safe and easy to reproduce? Simply pairing up vagrant nightmares with people willing to co-habit with them could prevent violence. Perhaps whatever drives them to harm others could be let out in a more constructive manner, like art.

    Don't like this one as much because I think they probably are biased against nightmares, and asking if you can bond with them would send alarm bells to both of them and to Kui. Nothing quite says "bad guy" like the person trying to fuse themselves with nightmares, even with the justification given :V

    [X] Do you know where one could pick up a loose archetype?

    Makes it seems like we want to help them and it would be fun to attain the archetype of the king .

    [X] Does bonding with an archetype have any side effects such as effecting your emotions or how you think?

    Because if it does we would have to be careful. Even if we would manage to get the king archetype, it would have a chance of backfiring because obviously no mere dream or idea could possibly match up to the reality of our future kingship. It might make us a worst king not a better one :V .

    [X] Sure. I won't join, but I'll stay in touch.

    Mainly because I don't want to completely lose contact with the group that hunts Daemons like us, if only because I'd prefer to know my enemies. For reasons already specified don't want to join. Straight out going to the not join but working with them sounds like it would get us needlessly involved in their business and get us more likely to go into a situation where we have to use our powers when surrounded by Daemon hunters.
     
    Sinarblood said:
    The danger of this write in is that if we are currently playing on the side of the "good guys" we have to pretend to be subservient to at least the current government, and any possible current "good guy magical guidelines" that exist currently if we want to avoid setting off alarm bells. To imply we aren't currently willing to be subservient to any of our future subjects, which by our reasoning is everyone- and they know that- implies that we will do anything we want without being chained by the laws of any society. Its true, but we probably want them to think we are willing to play by the rules for now and not just break them when it is convenient
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    The Princesses manage just fine.
     
    chocolote12 said:
    The Princesses manage just fine.
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    We are currently in the exact same boat as the Princesses, we both eventually want to rule the world.

    Rather we are already worse in that regard in that we want to rule not just the world but the universe.

    The princesses are despite their future aspirations working towards their goals the way you expect heroes to do, and don't really break any rules. Once they finally move on to the take over the world bit, then I imagine there will be much more opposition to them.

    My issue with the write in is that the implication that we are unwilling to be subservient to anyone else right now. Rules can't bind people if you put yourself above those who make them. I want them to at least think that we are willing to play by any rules in play, if only so they are less expecting of it when we stop doing so. Can they trust you to not break the law if you refuse to be subservient to anything?

    Furthermore, implying that we are unwilling to work under anyone else at all is... not very good for cooperation down the line, and if there is an advantage to temporarily pretending to join in the future, I don't want it to be in contradiction of the words here, nor do I want it to breed discontent if there is an advantage to joining or temporarily joining another group down the line. Ideas like us thinking that it is fine to work under group X but Victor can't work for the Wrecking Crew because he sees them as beneath him. Its the specifics- the why - that can bite us, and ultimately something to avoid. We aren't quite sure if there is a use for them yet or how best to use them. We are here to subvert or eliminate (or at least that is our goal given from the Circle of Seven), and I want to keep as many paths to subversion open until we decide we must eliminate.

    The heart of the issue is that the write in gives more chance of risk or it backfiring down the line compared to the given option while aiming for the same end goal -ie not joining but keeping in touch.
     
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    The danger of this write in is that if we are currently playing on the side of the "good guys" we have to pretend to be subservient to at least the current government, and any possible current "good guy magical guidelines" that exist currently if we want to avoid setting off alarm bells. To imply we aren't currently willing to be subservient to any of our future subjects, which by our reasoning is everyone- and they know that- implies that we will do anything we want without being chained by the laws of any society. Its true, but we probably want them to think we are willing to play by the rules for now and not just break them when it is convenient.
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    I agree with this point, we needn't make enemies like this even if it is in character. Such a decision is justified by virtue (hue hue) of our pride being tempered by intelligence.

    On the subject of nightmare bonding, the question could lead into a "yes", "no", or "I don't know" even with any suspicion gained, until they can actually prove that we are evil, they can't (or rather, shouldn't) act on it. I like the question because it also plants the seed of doubt in or prospective foe's minds, as you've said with the dark is not evil aspect. If we can come off as a beleaguered redemptionist, wishing for a peaceful resolution even after the discovery of our true nature can make us seem sympathetic. We were brought up on the side of darkness but seem like we want to do good, bringing others out may seem like a personal mission from the outside, a task worthy of one deigned to be the future king of all the universe.
     
    Sinarblood said:
    On the subject of Chronic Backstabbing disorder, while we can indulge in it I don't necessarily think it is a required thing, and we might never have to actually backstab unless the situation calls for it. I base this mainly on the fact that I couldn't imagine any Daemon with the virtue of Kindness backstabbing all their allies.
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    Or virtue is Diligence, btw, not Kindness.
     
    LostDeviljho said:
    Or virtue is Diligence, btw, not Kindness.
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    I know I was just using that as an example that not all daemons seem to be in a position where they'd indulge overmuch in chronic backstabbing disorder through the most obvious of examples.

    Though perhaps I wasn't really clear on that specification.

    Chronic backstabbing disorder seem to open options (such as the invisitext option the update before this one that would have had us attempt to kill all of them), but it is not necessarily a given that we actually must eventually back stab, though since I imagine we are going to try to get close to all the groups, we almost definitely will end up backstabbing some down the line, if only to discard the less useful ones that the more valuable people we can subvert have issue with.
     
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