- Location
- Leeds
[X] New quest get. Find the thief's sisters.
Loyalty or No SV you Are the Daedra
- Thread starter Kyrina
- Start date
- Location
- Heaven
[X] Plan NeverDies, but without the JK
[X] "I underst(h)and where you're coming from, but unfortunately my hands are tied. The law dem(h)ands I hand you over. Hopefully we'll be handed a reward for us capturing you so handily. I nearly clench my fists in (h)an(d)icipation at you meeting your just desserts with the long hand of the law. I wonder if they'll offer me a handshake when I unhand you into their clutches."
-[X] Look towards him slowly.
--[X] "You disrespected our Loot."
[X] "I underst(h)and where you're coming from, but unfortunately my hands are tied. The law dem(h)ands I hand you over. Hopefully we'll be handed a reward for us capturing you so handily. I nearly clench my fists in (h)an(d)icipation at you meeting your just desserts with the long hand of the law. I wonder if they'll offer me a handshake when I unhand you into their clutches."
-[X] Look towards him slowly.
--[X] "You disrespected our Loot."
Hastur
You can't hide from the King in Yellow
- Location
- Barcelona
As Skewfiend said, this guys is so full of shit you can smell it from a mile away. However, I'd like to point that if I have my knowledge correct, thieves did get their hands chopped off in medieval times (it's even understandable measure, in a medieval society with the corresponding culture), so I say that it's pretty likely they'd do something like this to thieves. Just because WE don't see it in the games doesn't mean it might not happen. I mean, that horse thief at the beginning of Skyrim was going to get his head chopped off; his crime is clearly viewed as worse, but if it's death sentence for him, a petty thief has all the numbers to get his hand chopped off. So I'd remove the third line, but ultimately, it doesn't bother me too much. We can always play it off as acting dumb, like we tend to do. Or say we were being a troll to him.
The sisters are a lie! Everybody knows there are no children in Cyrodiil!
[X] "Diana, your compassion does you credit, but you need to know when you are being lied to."
-[X] "This man will pretty clearly say anything at all to escape this situation. Shortly before you arrived he was trying to seduce me in the hopes of being let go. His stories were clearly chosen for what he thinks will tug on your heartstrings."
--[X] "Seriously, I have a little knowledge of Imperial law, and theft carries a penalty of a fine and/or a jail sentence. Have you ever heard of anyone in Cyrodil having their hands chopped off for thievery?"
---[X] Turn to look at the thief. "I can't fault you for trying, Spanky, but I can fault you for disrespecting my loot. Enjoy your government-mandated holiday."
The sisters are a lie! Everybody knows there are no children in Cyrodiil!
[X] "Diana, your compassion does you credit, but you need to know when you are being lied to."
-[X] "This man will pretty clearly say anything at all to escape this situation. Shortly before you arrived he was trying to seduce me in the hopes of being let go. His stories were clearly chosen for what he thinks will tug on your heartstrings."
--[X] "Seriously, I have a little knowledge of Imperial law, and theft carries a penalty of a fine and/or a jail sentence. Have you ever heard of anyone in Cyrodil having their hands chopped off for thievery?"
---[X] Turn to look at the thief. "I can't fault you for trying, Spanky, but I can fault you for disrespecting my loot. Enjoy your government-mandated holiday."
Skewfiend
The Corruptor of All Things
- Location
- The Darkness Behind Your Eyes
Bear in mind that a passerby who committed no crimes but witnessing a suspiciously orchestrated ambush was also slated to be executed.
I don't think that that is a terribly good example of Imperial law functioning normally, as both the horse thief and the MC were being executed for non-legal reasons (Keeping secrets).
- Location
- England
The setback has been fixed, I do not care what happens to the thief.
I...defer to your judgement.
I...defer to your judgement.
- Location
- England
We were usually referred to as objects, for we are tools of our lord. The madgods followers occassionaly called us male or female, or other less comprehensible things.
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Ψυχή
Beyond my wingbeats lie the fate of all worlds...
- Location
- Void between SB and SV
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chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
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Seconding...
But wait.
Typo.
Hastur
You can't hide from the King in Yellow
- Location
- Barcelona
Weeell, one wouldn't want evidence or gossip to spread around, wouldn't we? I agree that exact situation was unusual, to say the least, but the horse thief couldn't have been captured in that ambush, so he must've been captured at some other point.
Was the thief even keeping secrets? Horse theft was a pretty serious crime in medieval times iirc, I can totally see the Empire hanging/chopping the head off for that. It wouldn't necessarily imply they went out of their way to do so, more like "hey, we've got that horse thief we captured some days ago, let's kill him with the others and kill two birds with the same stone."
And well, considering Skyrim was in the middle of a civil war, Imperial law not working as it should isn't surprising. It sadly happens in a lot of cases. I guess we'll find out what the QMs decide if we hand him to the guard.
@Skewfiend Sorry man, I hit enter on my phone before finishing
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Skewfiend
The Corruptor of All Things
- Location
- The Darkness Behind Your Eyes
Especially if one got a tipoff from the thalmor...
Liar Liar
Kyrina
A Simple Merchant of Mirrors
- Location
- England
You aren't convinced by that outpouring of words from the thief. In fact you're fairly sure everything he just said is a load of complete bullshit. "Diana, your compassion does you credit, but you need to know when you are being lied to. This man will pretty clearly say anything at all to escape this situation. Shortly before you arrived he was trying to seduce me in the hopes of being let go." You wave a hand to yourself for emphasis. Suit of crystal armour probably a common point of attraction for most people. Illustrate the point quite nicely you think.
Yeah, he's totally full of crap
"His stories were clearly chosen for what he thinks will tug on your heartstrings." It worked on a lot of you as well, you hardly blame her for being taken in when you're still arguing over it.
But, what if he does have sisters who need help?
"Oh so now it's serious." The thief says moodily. You shake him a little, he can't be interrupting your big speech. "Bite me helmet-head!"
Come on, he's blatantly lying, trust me on this
"Not to mention," you continue over him loudly and start walking again. "I have a little knowledge of Imperial law, and theft carries a penalty of a fine and/or a jail sentence. Have you ever heard of anyone in Cyrodil having their hands chopped off for thievery?" None of you have and that's a sizable sample size right there!
How do you know, Diana was more than just a necromancer!
"Well no... but I'm not from around here. Things might be different." Diana admits but the doubt in her voice spurs the thief into talking again. He really will do anything to get out of this.
Right, because someone desperate to protect his sisters would mention them last? No, he's a liar and he'll take advantage if we let him
"The count rules with an iron fist, if anyone so much a-oof!" He shuts up promptly when you 'accidentally' stumble into a wall. That's quite enough of that nonsense.
Alright that was a lie but....
"Count Hassildor harsh but fair, at worst." You correct sternly. "I can't fault you for trying, Spanky, but I can fault you for disrespecting my loot. Enjoy your government-mandated holiday." It's not like he'll starve in jail, probably.
Look let's stop arguing, he'll be in jail if you really think we should help him
"Fuck you daedra." The thief hisses angrily. "I take every single compliment back." Well that's a relief, should prove that he didn't mean a word of them to Diana. "And your 'loot' was shit. I could haul three times that in a single afternoon."
RUDE
"Rude." You walk back into the shop. The thief's head goes clunk on the top of the door frame and he spits another curse at you. Diana follows, still chewing her lower lip with worry but looking a little more comfortable with what you're doing. That's good since Morlia's in a standoff with the shopkeeper, he's yelling about the door you shattered while she's yelling right back about how 'her daedra' is actually doing something constructive about the thief. There are a pair of guards watching them shout, they look rather amused. If Nirn had popcorn you're pretty sure this pair would be sharing some as they watched Morlia and the shopkeeper fight.
"Hey Morlia, caught you a thief!" You say brightly and haul the thief off your shoulder to wave in the air at her. The thief doesn't struggle, everyone knows that would pointless, but he makes a show of looking as disgruntled and angry as he possibly can.
"Thank you Fast." Morlia says politely and turns back to her argument. "There, thief caught which is better than the guards managed! You should be thanking me for telling my daedra to go after him!"
"My door isn't going to be replaced by the Nine, elf, and with what he stole that's a huge dent in my profits." The shopkeeper shouts back. Diana steps forwards, sack in her hands.
"We got your stolen goods back, just let us get back the stuff he took from us an-"
"What let you thieves walk away with your choice of my goods." He snatches the loot sack from Diana. "Not bloody likely."
"Hey! He stole from us too and now you're going to do the same!" Morlia's incensed, face red as a tomato. "Let her get our stuff back and everything else's yours, alright so...."
"Guards they're in it with him!" The shopkeeper points at the thief in your hands. The guards glance at each other.
"Oh dear," the thief drawls, "guess we're rumbled ladies." Morlia and Diana protest their innocence immediately and loudly. The guards don't seem to entirely buy it, either side of it.
"Everyone is coming with us to the castle dungeons where we can sort this mess out." One shouts over the clamour.
[ ] What do?
Sometimes people are just greedy arseholes I guess. See y'all Thursday
Yeah, he's totally full of crap
"His stories were clearly chosen for what he thinks will tug on your heartstrings." It worked on a lot of you as well, you hardly blame her for being taken in when you're still arguing over it.
But, what if he does have sisters who need help?
"Oh so now it's serious." The thief says moodily. You shake him a little, he can't be interrupting your big speech. "Bite me helmet-head!"
Come on, he's blatantly lying, trust me on this
"Not to mention," you continue over him loudly and start walking again. "I have a little knowledge of Imperial law, and theft carries a penalty of a fine and/or a jail sentence. Have you ever heard of anyone in Cyrodil having their hands chopped off for thievery?" None of you have and that's a sizable sample size right there!
How do you know, Diana was more than just a necromancer!
"Well no... but I'm not from around here. Things might be different." Diana admits but the doubt in her voice spurs the thief into talking again. He really will do anything to get out of this.
Right, because someone desperate to protect his sisters would mention them last? No, he's a liar and he'll take advantage if we let him
"The count rules with an iron fist, if anyone so much a-oof!" He shuts up promptly when you 'accidentally' stumble into a wall. That's quite enough of that nonsense.
Alright that was a lie but....
"Count Hassildor harsh but fair, at worst." You correct sternly. "I can't fault you for trying, Spanky, but I can fault you for disrespecting my loot. Enjoy your government-mandated holiday." It's not like he'll starve in jail, probably.
Look let's stop arguing, he'll be in jail if you really think we should help him
"Fuck you daedra." The thief hisses angrily. "I take every single compliment back." Well that's a relief, should prove that he didn't mean a word of them to Diana. "And your 'loot' was shit. I could haul three times that in a single afternoon."
RUDE
"Rude." You walk back into the shop. The thief's head goes clunk on the top of the door frame and he spits another curse at you. Diana follows, still chewing her lower lip with worry but looking a little more comfortable with what you're doing. That's good since Morlia's in a standoff with the shopkeeper, he's yelling about the door you shattered while she's yelling right back about how 'her daedra' is actually doing something constructive about the thief. There are a pair of guards watching them shout, they look rather amused. If Nirn had popcorn you're pretty sure this pair would be sharing some as they watched Morlia and the shopkeeper fight.
"Hey Morlia, caught you a thief!" You say brightly and haul the thief off your shoulder to wave in the air at her. The thief doesn't struggle, everyone knows that would pointless, but he makes a show of looking as disgruntled and angry as he possibly can.
"Thank you Fast." Morlia says politely and turns back to her argument. "There, thief caught which is better than the guards managed! You should be thanking me for telling my daedra to go after him!"
"My door isn't going to be replaced by the Nine, elf, and with what he stole that's a huge dent in my profits." The shopkeeper shouts back. Diana steps forwards, sack in her hands.
"We got your stolen goods back, just let us get back the stuff he took from us an-"
"What let you thieves walk away with your choice of my goods." He snatches the loot sack from Diana. "Not bloody likely."
"Hey! He stole from us too and now you're going to do the same!" Morlia's incensed, face red as a tomato. "Let her get our stuff back and everything else's yours, alright so...."
"Guards they're in it with him!" The shopkeeper points at the thief in your hands. The guards glance at each other.
"Oh dear," the thief drawls, "guess we're rumbled ladies." Morlia and Diana protest their innocence immediately and loudly. The guards don't seem to entirely buy it, either side of it.
"Everyone is coming with us to the castle dungeons where we can sort this mess out." One shouts over the clamour.
[ ] What do?
Sometimes people are just greedy arseholes I guess. See y'all Thursday
- Location
- the Netherworld Dood
[X] Really? really? Your purposely lying and pissing off a Daedra? Right in front of you? in what world is that a good idea? Daedra don't die and we can hold a grudge you really want to do this?
- Location
- Leeds
[X] This is an outrage. I demand to speak with the most noble of vampires.
-[X] And I'll be on a hunger strike until I do.
-[X] And I'll be on a hunger strike until I do.
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Hastur
You can't hide from the King in Yellow
- Location
- Barcelona
[X] A greedy merchant robbing us of our hard earned goods. Now where did I hear that story? Really, you must be from Venice! But since I'm confident we can put this behind us, say, do you have per chance scrolls of the fireball spell? Or maybe one those stones from the Ayleid ruins? I hear they restore mana... Of course, nothing wrong if you don't have those, you know.
Now, I know it must seem pretty confusing and kinda convoluted, but I think we can try to trick him into revealing he doesn't have any of what we ask for. Just from seeing him interact with the others, there's a fairly good chance that he'll snap at us while answering, damning himself and proving it's ours, along with everything else.
Let us grind our Magnificent Bastard stat by making him out himself!
On the other hand, it could backfire on us.
Now, I know it must seem pretty confusing and kinda convoluted, but I think we can try to trick him into revealing he doesn't have any of what we ask for. Just from seeing him interact with the others, there's a fairly good chance that he'll snap at us while answering, damning himself and proving it's ours, along with everything else.
Let us grind our Magnificent Bastard stat by making him out himself!
On the other hand, it could backfire on us.
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[X] A greedy merchant robbing us of our hard earned goods. Now where did I hear that story? Really, you must be from Venice! But since I'm confident we can put this behind us, say, do you have per chance scrolls of the fireball spell? Or maybe one those stones from the Ayleid ruins? I hear they restore mana... Of course, nothing wrong if you don't have those, you know.
Hastur
You can't hide from the King in Yellow
- Location
- Barcelona
Fast: "I demand an audience with your lord. Bring me to your leader unharmed and we shall parley!"
Diana: "Uhm, Fast? Why are you carrying those onions around your neck?"
Fast: "Hush, Diana, big brother is working right now. I'm on a hunt, you must call me by my work alias Helsing, Van Helsing!"
Morlia: *Facepalms* Nine give me strength...
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- Location
- Leeds
Why are we trying to trick him. Considering that we just judged the count as harsh but fair letting him sort this shit out seems like the best way to do it.
Hastur
You can't hide from the King in Yellow
- Location
- Barcelona
Well, it could go either way, I think. If he had enough mental presence to inmediately claim that what we had was his too, he could also come up with something if he's asked where did he get our stuff. After all, we don't exactly have a paper saying "we took this from X ruins near the city". It's our word against his.
- Location
- Leeds
True but theres got to be a line, or else he could try and claim that Dianas wearing his clothes and must have dumped her original ones in an alley along the way.
The count will take one look at this and say 'If they're working together, why did the High Elf say behind instead of making her getaway? In fact why did they bring the theif and stolen items back rather than saying they couldn't catch him? Why did they interupt the original robbery that the shopkeeper didn't notice at the time? Most importantly, why are you wasting my time with this?"
And then the guard will say " They are serious charges, so we had to respond. We were originally going for a lower judge, but the Deadra demanded to speak with you and its really annoying."
And the count will say " I see. Return the items to the adventurers, fine the theif and shopkeeper and shove that damn deadra in the dungeon until the mages are leaving my city."
Then we will demand to have the alliterating guard be on duty all the time and shall invent Rap Battles with her and all will be well in the world.
Skewfiend
The Corruptor of All Things
- Location
- The Darkness Behind Your Eyes
[X] Without releasing the thief, lay a hand on Both Morlia's and Diana's shoulders in turn, quietly asking them to hold their silence for a bit and not piss off the guards.
-[X] If the thief continues to be noisy, clamp a hand over his mouth.
--[X] Turn to the merchant "You know that your hasty and opportunistic fraud will not pass even the lightest of scrutiny. As soon as they compare your books, your stock, the contested items and my list of sold items, the truth will come to light. Are you sure you don't want to recant your lies before they have serious legal consequences for you?"
---[X] If that is unsuccessful, shrug, and say "So be it. Lead on, gentlemen." To the guards.
-[X] If the thief continues to be noisy, clamp a hand over his mouth.
--[X] Turn to the merchant "You know that your hasty and opportunistic fraud will not pass even the lightest of scrutiny. As soon as they compare your books, your stock, the contested items and my list of sold items, the truth will come to light. Are you sure you don't want to recant your lies before they have serious legal consequences for you?"
---[X] If that is unsuccessful, shrug, and say "So be it. Lead on, gentlemen." To the guards.
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PS; this is why Daedra don't like summoners. Ref; the unbound Daedra quest in Skyrim.
The master rank quest to get the level 100 summoner spells involves summoning an unbound Daedra. Who you need to beat it to death and re-summon it, and then repeat until it calls uncle to make the pain stop
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
I loved that Quest.
NeverDies
Classy Coleoptera ಠ_ರೃ
- Location
- Colorado
[X] Without releasing the thief, lay a hand on Both Morlia's and Diana's shoulders in turn, quietly asking them to hold their silence for a bit and not piss off the guards.
-[X] If the thief continues to be noisy, clamp a hand over his mouth.
--[X] Turn to the merchant "You know that your hasty and opportunistic fraud will not pass even the lightest of scrutiny. As soon as they compare your books, your stock, the contested items and my list of sold items, the truth will cone to light. Are you sure you don't want to recant your lies before they have serious legal consequences for you?"
---[X] If that is unsuccessful, shrug, and say "So be it. Lead on, gentlemen." To the guards.
Lawyer Fast is here!
-[X] If the thief continues to be noisy, clamp a hand over his mouth.
--[X] Turn to the merchant "You know that your hasty and opportunistic fraud will not pass even the lightest of scrutiny. As soon as they compare your books, your stock, the contested items and my list of sold items, the truth will cone to light. Are you sure you don't want to recant your lies before they have serious legal consequences for you?"
---[X] If that is unsuccessful, shrug, and say "So be it. Lead on, gentlemen." To the guards.
Lawyer Fast is here!