Lets Read: World War Z: An Oral History of the Zombie War

I assumed the politicians were supposed to do that.
Yes, but how? Politicians don't have telepathic mind powers. If they want to "watch" someone, they will do it by sending a guy, preferably a guy they trust, to actively monitor that person. If the politicians trust FSB men to be those guys, then FSB men will be sent out to watch the someones.

True. But I feel like that just moves the problem to a different set of widely-distributed watchemn watching watchmen. The FSB keeps the individual officers loyal (or at least obedient), but who keeps individual FSB agents loyal?
1) That they are not the direct commanders of the troops and do not enjoy their direct loyalty, and so cannot simply lead the troops out of state service and "turn warlord." They might desert or something, but they aren't the same type of security threat as a high-ranking army officer at a time like this.

2) That any given dictatorial state will generally have an elite enforcer corps, and there are fairly well known and standard ploys for ensuring the loyalty of that corps. These include, but are not limited to:
2a) Ensuring that the elite enforcers are extremely well paid and privileged.
2b) Ensuring that the elite enforcers' families live close to the capital, partly for hostage value but more often just so that they and their families have access to the highest luxury in the nation.
2c) Ensuring that the elite enforcers are widely distrusted outside their own ranks, giving them fewer options to break away and secure a good position outside the dictatorship's power structure.

Many of these strategies still work during a zombie apocalypse. The same men who were handpicked for loyalty and reliability before the crisis are likely to remain loyal if they know the dictator is working hard to protect their families from zombies, putting them at or near the head of any queues for civilian evacuation, for instance.
 
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You know I am really glad that I lived in switzerland during the war. True things gotten really tough during the first winter but the government didn't drop the ball with anything and as far as I have heard no one starved to death even with all the refugees that came into switzerland.

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I love this reading and I hope that this let's read continues forward. Also don't you mind if I include switzerland as one of the only countries in the world that didn't drop the ball and in fact successfully weatherd the Z war with only 'minor' casaulties during the war? Also I don't live in switzerland, should I play a character who lived in switzerland or should I play as a character who lived in the United States that I live in?
 
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Also I don't live in switzerland, should I play a character who lived in switzerland or should I play as a character who lived in the United States that I live in?
Most people run character where they live, simply because it's easier to do when you know what's around them, ya know?

But my guy is currently hiding in an undisclosed location in Europe because the Junta is... well, not happy that he personally killed like, a dozen kill teams and personally exposes their massacres and Fuckery.
 
Yes, but how? Politicians don't have telepathic mind powers. If they want to "watch" someone, they will do it by sending a guy, preferably a guy they trust, to actively monitor that person. If the politicians trust FSB men to be those guys, then FSB men will be sent out to watch the someones.
Unless the FSB have telepathic mind powers, the same problem repeats itself. That's not a problem with the military chain of command, that's a problem with administering a region more than a hundred miles across.

1) That they are not the direct commanders of the troops and do not enjoy their direct loyalty, and so cannot simply lead the troops out of state service and "turn warlord." They might desert or something, but they aren't the same type of security threat as a high-ranking army officer at a time like this.
I suppose. It's not foolproof, there's nothing stopping the FSB from allying with either the officers they're watching or the junior officers directly commanding the troops, but I guess it's a little more secure than just making your officers loyal.

Point 2 is a bit weaker; it's either stuff you could do with the normal officers or reframing point 1.


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I love this reading and I hope that this let's read continues forward. Also don't you mind if I include switzerland as one of the only countries in the world that didn't drop the ball and in fact successfully weatherd the Z war with only 'minor' casaulties during the war? Also I don't live in switzerland, should I play a character who lived in switzerland or should I play as a character who lived in the United States that I live in?
From what I know about Switzerland, it probably either weathered the zombies relatively okay or had enough infectees in the bunkers that the opposite happened. Not much room for the middle ground there, I think.
 
Switzerland also has a high number of guns per capita and people who know how to use them.
 
Switzerland also has a high number of guns per capita and people who know how to use them.
While swiss people who did their military service (which is not every adult male, as civil service is an option, and even in the army there is a process to ask for no weapon) have their gun, they don't have ammo, so depending on how the outbreak started in switzerland, it might not have helped much.

If the initial wave was stopped, however, yeah, the swiss can just collapse the mountain passes then shoot everything with big ass guns in the mountains while shouting "rock and stone" like dwarves.
 
While swiss people who did their military service (which is not every adult male, as civil service is an option, and even in the army there is a process to ask for no weapon) have their gun, they don't have ammo, so depending on how the outbreak started in switzerland, it might not have helped much.

If the initial wave was stopped, however, yeah, the swiss can just collapse the mountain passes then shoot everything with big ass guns in the mountains while shouting "rock and stone" like dwarves.

OOC: It may have changed since I lived there, but they also do not get sent home with the firing bolt for their guns. They are required to keep the gun itself in their home, but they're expected to report to base/a muster point to get their firing bolts if they are needed.

Unless one of your civil service jobs involved being in charge of one of the larger nuclear fallout bunkers, and then you got a pistol so you could shoot pets people tried to bring in. Yes, that was the explicit reason given for them having a gun. Yes, there were (and still are) a lot of nuclear shelters; we used the one in our basement as an extra cellar because IIRC it was technically no longer required, so it didn't need to be inspected.

Switzerland would probably do alright in World War Z? Not because of the guns, but because of the nightmarish terrain, regular freezes, and low population density.
 
While swiss people who did their military service (which is not every adult male, as civil service is an option, and even in the army there is a process to ask for no weapon) have their gun, they don't have ammo, so depending on how the outbreak started in switzerland, it might not have helped much.

If the initial wave was stopped, however, yeah, the swiss can just collapse the mountain passes then shoot everything with big ass guns in the mountains while shouting "rock and stone" like dwarves.
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Well personally my plan is that as soon as the government found out about the zombies they announced the reality of the zombies to their people and worked hard to prevent the panic from happening in their country, made sure that they were food secure, planned ahead for a massive refugee crisis and in general made the war with the zed as painless as possible.

At least in general that happened. The biggest stumbling block was the SPV party that was infected with the same brainworms as the rest of the countries had and made each step much much worse than it needed to be. The end result is that they gotten massive recalls during the crisis once the swiss people realized what was going on and alot of anger at the SPV even many years later for nearly causing the same collapse as the countries surrounding Switzerland experienced.

And well it didn't collapse due to the interference of the other parties in the swiss government. Which helped but primarily it is due to on the ground work with the pirate, communist, and alternative left parties in making both the people and the refugees clothed, warmed, and fed during the crisis. Especially during the winter time where the pirate's 'Cybersyn V2' app helped to stretch the country's resources far beyond anyone thought possible. And formed the basis for the swiss economic management system.

It also resulted in the three parties taking over the power vacuum that the SPV party left behind in the government and caused the swiss people to reconsider their stances on socialism and other leftist ideologies.
 
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Unless the FSB have telepathic mind powers, the same problem repeats itself. That's not a problem with the military chain of command, that's a problem with administering a region more than a hundred miles across.
Yes, and somehow people manage to solve it.

The thing is, we know how people solve this problem.

And generally, part of the answer is that leadership solves this problem by having agents, auditors, secret police, that kind of thing to check and make sure people in the provinces are actually complying with directives from the center. There are a lot of individual details as to how this is done, but it's not mysterious or unusual. You can find plenty of real world examples if you try. I could list more of the details, but at some point this becomes pointless unless you're truly interested in which case we'd need to address specific questions.

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In terms of basically just asking "but who watches the watchmen" over and over, you've... kind of overstrained it, I think.

You're pushing pretty far out into the woods in the direction- not all the way there, but in that direction- of some questions that really do answer themselves.

One imagines asking "but how would the FSB/dictator/army/whoever move oxygen from the atmosphere into their bloodstream, this sounds like a very complex process, they'd need some kind of elaborate organ and repetitive motion to do it?" The answer is "they breathe with their lungs," and a bit of familiarity with how human beings exist in the world provides that answer automatically.

In the same way, a bit of familiarity with how dictatorships and oligarchies operate provides a pretty clear explanation of how the kind of system we're talking about can function. A system with a special elite of regime enforcers (FSB/Republican Guard/Alpha Teams/Okhrana/whatever) can use those enforcers to ensure that the broader machinery of the state remains more reliable and obedient than they otherwise would. This is not a difficult or paradoxical thing. Any reasonably broad (not necessarily deep!) study of history will reveal examples of variations on this theme existing in real life. They don't always work perfectly, or even that well. But then, very few human institutions do.

I suppose. It's not foolproof, there's nothing stopping the FSB from allying with either the officers they're watching or the junior officers directly commanding the troops, but I guess it's a little more secure than just making your officers loyal.
You can, and often you would! The trick is that very often a dictatorship will both have a secret police watching the military and civil government bureaucracy, and grant members of the military and bureaucracy (and their families) special privileges.

Carrot and stick, not one or the other.

More broadly, there are a lot of things you can do to make it unlikely that the watchers will ally with the regular military. Interservice rivalry makes it less likely. The fact that the military knows the watchers are spies makes it less likely, because if they do have some kind of plot and try to recruit you for it, how do you know they're not an agent provocateur trying to entrap you into participating willingly in a fake criminal conspiracy so they can arrest you? And the fact that the watchers are probably rotated around and remaining in contact with their own command structure contributes, because they have a shared identity among themselves.

Point 2 is a bit weaker; it's either stuff you could do with the normal officers or reframing point 1.
One thing that gets missed in saying "why not just treat the officer corps like this" is that, at least if you are sincerely trying to win your wars, you have to select military officers for a lot of things. Loyalty is one, but other factors like "ability to organize large groups," "ability to keep track of what their troops are doing in detail," "ability to cultivate effective subordinates," also matter a lot. As such, it is hard to be truly sure that your generals and colonels are as loyal as they could be. By contrast, when you are selecting secret police officers, you can put in a lot more work to vet them for loyalty to the current regime.

As such, if you run the kind of regime that founds a secret police force, you can usually be reasonably confident that it is more loyal to you, all else being equal, than any other agency under your control. And, as such, it can make sense to use the secret police to monitor those other agencies. You're not just shifting the problem of "but who watches those watchmen" out to one more layer of recursion. You're specifically creating a corps of handpicked loyalist watchers who are as good at their jobs and as unlikely to betray you as you can arrange, and making them the watchers that watch all the other watchmen in the state. At least in theory.

Which, again, ain't perfect, but what human institutions are?
 
On a whim, I checked out "The Good War", Studs Terkel's oral history of World War 2 that apparently inspired Brooks's format, from my local library. It genuinely surprised me, and makes me angry on Terkel's behalf that WWZ is this militarist, 'hard man'-esque book, because "The Good War" is anything but that.

Terkel uses his interviews to present WW2 America in all its flaws (even while fighting a necessary war), rather than crafting a narrative of war (and specifically violence) being a crucible that reshapes American society for the better; Brooks doing the latter with his fictional oral history is kinda ugly.
 
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Total War, Part 2
Total War, Part 2

Sorry this one's a little late - my girl's been called in to work a lot given the situation in South Africa, so that's left me picking up the slack more at home, you know how it goes.

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AINSWORTH, NEBRASKA, USA

[Darnell Hackworth is a shy, soft-spoken man. He and his wife run a retirement farm for the four-legged veterans of the army's K-9 Corps. Ten years ago farms like these could be found in almost every state in the union. Now, this is the only one left.]


I do have to begrudgingly give the Americans some credit here - they used dogs more and more effectively than anyone else. We never really went beyond using them at checkpoints and to scout for hidden ghouls, but the Americans used them for a lot more than that.

Of course, this isn't unalloyed praise - there's a lot of arguments about how useful a lot of what the Americans had their dogs do was, and some discussion about how humane the extent of their program was.

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They never get enough credit, I think. There is that story Dax, nice little children's book, but it's pretty simplistic, and it's only about one Dalmatian that helped an orphan kid find his way to safety. "Dax" wasn't even in the military, and helping lost children was a tiny fraction of dogs' overall contribution to the fight.


There's a film about our dog handlers in the London clearance. Isle of Dogs.

It was made after the war, but it's largely a pretty honest look at those last black weeks, when we were starting to understand the devil's deal our leadership had made. It's bleak, very symbolic. The dog dies.

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Most countries were just copying the Israeli method of sending people past dogs in cages. You always had to keep them in cages, otherwise they might attack the person, or each other, or even their handler. There was a lot of that, early in the war, dogs just going ballistic. It didn't matter if they were police or military. It's that instinct, that involuntary, almost genetic terror. Fight or flight, and those dogs were bred to fight. A lot of handlers lost hands, arms, a lot of throats got torn out. Can't blame the dogs for it.


I remember on my way to Bristol I fell in with this family; sweet kids, tired looking young couple, and they had their family dog, Sammy, though god knows how they'd kept her fed this long, a big golden retriever like that. They let me tag along because she loved me, and she'd always been a good judge of character - it helped, I think, that I was another pair of arms to carry the toddler if she got too tired.

Anyway, we were walking one day when this man comes running down a slip road, waving his arms, shouting their names.

He had been their neighbour before the war, but he'd followed the government evacuation to the Exe. Before anyone can react, Sammy is on him, bearing him to the ground and growling, this deep threatening rumble in her chest, and suddenly everyone's demeanour changes.

The dog just keeps growling, he's asking what's going on and I'm being told to take their kids further down the road so they "don't have to see this"

You could train a pre-War dog to respond to infected well, it was just hard.

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It all came down to training. You had to start young; even the most disciplined, prewar veterans were hardwired berserkers. The pups born after the crisis came out of the womb literally smelling the dead. It was in the air, not enough for us to detect, but just a few molecules, an introduction on a subconscious level.


This… what? This isn't why puppies are easier to train than fully grown dogs. You do not need to invent some biological reason why it is easier to train a puppy than a full dog. That's an answered question already. Puppies are easier to train, they have always been easier to train.

I wasn't aware the Americans engaged in, like, doggy phrenology about how the different puppies responded to ghouls, but I guess it doesn't shock me.

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Did they have the intelligence, and the discipline, to make soldiers? It was hard going, and we had a 60 percent washout rate. It wasn't uncommon for a recruit to be badly injured, perhaps even killed. A lot of people nowadays call that inhumane, though they don't seem to have the same sympathy for the handlers. Yeah, we had to do it, too, right alongside the dogs, right from day one of Basic, through ten more weeks of AIT.


So first of all, the obvious "gotcha" here - the dogs weren't volunteers, they didn't choose to go through this, so on and so forth.

But more to the point; people very much do criticise the American training regimen during the war. Some cursory research finds three groups in America advocating for proper enquiries into what happened in places like Mitchell and Willow Creek - you can drop them donations [HERE], [HERE] and [HERE] if you'd like. They aren't really getting much traction, but they do exist.

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How else could you have sent them on so many different missions? There were Lures, the kind that the Battle of Hope made famous. Pretty simple stuff; your partner hunts for Zack, then leads him into our firing line. Ks on early missions used to be fast, run in, bark, then jam it for the kill zone. Later, they got more comfortable. They learned to stay just a few feet ahead, backing away slowly, making sure they herded the maximum amount of targets. In that way, they actually called the shots.


This is mostly only something the Americans needed because of their static mindset. For most engagements we would scout the area beforehand, tag the swarms, then advance until contact and then if the swarm was larger than expected, either break contact entirely or give ground until the swarm had been whittled down to a more manageable size.

When we worked with dogs, it was mostly just in urban environments, to find the ghouls that had fluked their way into being an ambush.

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There were also Decoys. Let's say you were setting up a firing line but you didn't want Zack to show up too early. Your partner would circle around the infested zone and only start barking on the far side. That worked with a lot of engagements, and it opened the door for the "Lemming" tactic.


We never bothered to do this - this wasn't how we engaged swarms. As and when we wanted to disengage, we would send someone on a quad bike to make a racket behind them. Dogs are going to struggle with the nuances, because they can't be in constant radio contact with command.

It's a matter of finding balance - doing it our way gave more flexibility, but you risked someone's life more than if you just trained a dog to do it. Since we had to divert swarms away less frequently than they did, it was worth the cost in flexibility for them to train more disposable assets, but not for us.

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During the Denver push, there was a tall building where a couple hundred refugees had accidentally been locked in with the infection and were now completely reanimated. Before our guys could storm the entrance, one of the Ks had his own idea to run up to the roof of a building across the street and start barking to draw Zack up onto the higher floors. It worked like a dream. The Gs made it up to the roof, saw their prey, made for him, and went spilling over the side.


This is moronic. A couple of hundred ghouls in a sealed environment with only one exit is a pretty easy engagement for a platoon of soldiers - you set out a perimeter, which might need dogs for scouting, then you breach whatever is keeping them corked up in there, and then you maintain a disciplined rate of fire on the bottleneck they are coming out of.

On the other hand, a writhing mat of crippled ghouls which has fallen from a high building, now out in the street without any ability to bottleneck them is going to take longer to clear and probably more manpower to contain. They aren't "as dangerous" after the fall, but they were essentially never dangerous, so…

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But the primary and most common mission of any K team was scouting, both SC and LRP. SC is Sweep and Clear, just attached to a regular unit, like conventional warfare. That's where training really paid off. Not only could they sniff Zack out miles before us, but the sounds they made always told you exactly what to expect. You could tell everything you needed to know by the pitch of the growl, and the frequency of the bark.


This is what we had dogs for. They made a world of difference in urban warfare, and the lack of them in the London Tunnels was an undeniable contributing factor in why clearing them was so hideously costly.

The high water level and the stink down there was too much for them - they couldn't smell the ghouls nearly as well, and they hated being down there. Everyone hated being down there, but the dogs wouldn't stop crying down there, and they got snappy when people tried to take them down. It stopped being worth it.

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LRP was Long Range Patrol, when your partner would scout far beyond your lines, sometimes even traveling for days, to recon an infested area. They wore a special harness with a video uplink and GPS tracker that gave you real-time intel on the exact number and position of your targets. You could overlay Zack's position on a preexisting map, coordinating what your partner saw with his position on the GPS.


This is bizarre, to me. When we wanted long distance scouting of this sort, we used people on bicycles, usually.

The most important assets for a scout to have are adaptability and initiative - the ghouls aren't that dangerous to a mobile pair of well-armed soldiers with a clear line of retreat, so being able to adapt on the fly to really scout out and investigate the area is a pretty vital skill.

Using dogs for this is absurd.

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I just had to stand there, thumb up my ass, watching my partner's POV as she crept through some forest, or marsh, or town. Towns and cities, that was the hardest. That was my team's specialty. Hound Town. You ever heard of that?


This is beginning to touch on the oddity of the Long Range Patrol metric a little better. There's more detail later, but ultimately the idea behind using dogs is that the losses you suffer from a bad mission aren't as bad - and set aside for a moment the fact that human scouting has a lower casualty rate anyway - but as he talks about later, the handlers for dogs in the war weren't useful assets once their dog died.

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The K-9 Urban Warfare School?

That's it, a real town: Mitchell, Oregon. Sealed off, abandoned, and still filled with active Gs. Hound Town. It actually should have been called Terrytown, because most of the breeds at Mitchell were small terriers. Little cairns and Norwiches and JRs, good for rubble and narrow choke points.


Most of the dogs I saw us use - which wasn't many, don't get me wrong; we only got deployed with dogs for urban engagements - were the archetypical sniffer dogs. Bloodhounds, beagles, German Shepherds…

Different use cases between the situations; they asked a lot more of their dogs.

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I worked with a dachle. They were, by far, the ultimate urban war fighters. Tough, smart, and, especially the minis, completely at home in confined spaces. In fact, that's what they were originally bred for; "badger dog," that's what dachshund means in German. That's why they had that hot dog look, so they could hunt in low, narrow badger burrows. You see how that kind of breeding already made them suited to the ducts and crawl spaces of an urban battleground. The ability to go through a pipe, an airshaft, in between walls, whatever, without losing their cool, was a major survival asset.


The ultimate urban war fighters. Sure, okay.

What really was the point of this, I have to wonder? Like, what did they gain from sending these little dogs to scurry around the ruins of Denver or wherever? What does that get you?

It's a doctrine I don't really "get" I must confess. They can't kill a ghoul, and in such close quarters just their presence will shift the location of the ghouls in these confined spaces enough to more or less neutralise any intelligence that you couldn't get from a Bloodhound outside the building entirely.

Like, if someone could explain that, I'd be pretty interested - this is a genuine dissonance between doctrines, I think, rather than the Americans just doing something dumb and pointless like they often did.

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[We are interrupted. As if on cue, a dog limps over to Darnell's side. She is old. Her muzzle is white, the fur on her ears and tail is worn to leather.]

[To the dog.]
Hey, little miss.

[Darnell gingerly lifts her to his lap. She is small, no more than eight or nine pounds. Although she bears some resemblance to a smooth-haired, miniature dachshund, her back is shorter than the standard breed.]


Alright so like, no disrespect to this guy - he's clearly just doing whatever he can to buy cheap sympathy donations for his dogs, since America has by and large stopped giving a shit about them, and I can respect the graft - but I am fully willing to rip the piss out of our crack journalist for being utterly credulous about that time where they were talking about the dogs and this guy's most heroic and pathetic dog just happens to arrive "as if on cue".

Truly his ability to avoid being bamboozled by his interviewee is staggering.

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Pure bloods were a total washout. Too neurotic, too many health problems, everything you'd expect from breeding an animal for just its aesthetic qualities. The new generation [he gestures to the mutt on his lap] was always a mix, whatever would increase both physical constitution and mental stability.


Generally speaking pedigree dogs are desired by trainers because their traits are more predictable. This isn't universal, but he just doesn't mention it at all.

I could be off base here - I'm more of a cat person than a dog person, so this is outside of my wheelhouse, but this is my understanding of this situation.

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She had two escorts. Pongo, who was a pit-rot mix, and Perdy…I don't really know what Perdy was, part shepherd, part stegosaurus. I wouldn't have let her anywhere near them if I hadn't gone through basic with their handlers. They turned out to be first-rate escorts. Fourteen times they chased off feral packs, twice they really got into it. I watched Perdy go after this two-hundred-pound mastiff, grab its skull in her jaws, you could actually hear the crack over the harness's surveillance mic.


Jesus.

But I mean, yeah. Packs of feral dogs were no joke - are no joke in large swathes of the UK even now, if what I've heard is accurate. We were officially meant to tag them in some way and leave them for our animal control people to bring in, but generally speaking it was safer to fire above their heads to make them run, and if they didn't… You've got to do what you've got to do, sometimes.

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But isn't Z flesh toxic?

Oh yeah…no, no, no, they never bit. That would have been fatal. You'd see a lot of dead Ks in the beginning of the war, just lying there, no wounds, and you knew they'd bitten infected flesh. That's one of the reasons training was so important. They had to know how to defend themselves. Zack's got a lot of physical advantages, but balance isn't one of them. The bigger Ks could always hit between the shoulder blades or the small of the back, just knock them on their faces. The minis had the option of tripping, getting underfoot, or launching themselves at the knee-pit. Maze always preferred that, dropped 'em right on their backs!


Alright so this is a topic I know a slightly surprising amount about - on the ship down to Cuba I shared a cabin with one of the vets from Longleat, and she told me the treatment for wolves and dogs is pretty similar.

Ghoul-flesh makes dogs incredibly sick, but it isn't instantly fatal. Most of the time, the dog retches it up before it can even swallow it fully; these dogs will pretty universally survive it, with maybe 1 in 50 dying in these circumstances. If that isn't the case, a rapid enough response can apply an emetic to make the dog empty its stomach and - ideally - all the toxin with it, which saves maybe half the dogs caught in time. If the toxin had passed into the bowels, odds of survival drop further, and even treatment with a purgative only gives about a 5% chance of surviving. Without treatment, the dog will die.

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If they were too far, a Lure or an LRP . . . too far for rescue and too close to Zack . . . we petitioned for Mercy Charges, little explosive packs strapped to the harness so we could detonate them if it looked like there wasn't any chance of rescue. We never got them. "A waste of valuable resources." Cocksuckers. Putting a wounded soldier out of his misery was a waste but turning them into Fragmuts, now, that they'd consider!


One of the consequences of using dogs for things like this is that they can't kill themselves in these situations, so instead you're left arguing for remote controlled suicide bombs, operable across miles of urban sprawl and through potentially metres of concrete.

No shit they refused this plan - you'd end up blowing up every third dog when the uplink blinked out.

That's the same reason they didn't ever make a lot of progress on the "fragmutts" concept, though I find it interesting that they mention it at all - the claim advanced occasionally in this book that explosions don't work on ghouls waxes and wanes based on how much attention the journalist is paying to all the plates he's trying to keep spinning.

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They'll never say it, but I think what stopped them was the threat of another Eckhart incident. That really woke 'em up. You know about that, right? Sergeant Eckhart, God bless her. She was a senior handler, operated up with AGN.[3] I never met her. Her partner was pulling a Lure mission outside Little Rock, fell in a ditch, broke his leg. The swarm was only a few steps away. Eckhart grabbed a rifle, tried to go out after him. Some officer got in her face, started spouting regs and half-assed justifications. She emptied half a clip in his mouth. MPs tackled her ass, held her on the ground. She could hear everything as the dead surrounded her partner.


Sergeant Eckhart shouldn't have been in the military; her psyche evaluation was concerning enough that she should've been quietly shuffled into a training post, at the very least, but America was drafting everyone by the time they were fighting in places like Arkansas, so to the frontline she went.

AGN - Army Group North, and isn't the American Junta's strange, unpleasant pre-occupation with the Wehrmacht fun - being in Arkansas should be ringing some alarm bells to anyone with, like, a map?

The fight against the Christian States was turning into a bloody stalemate in West Texas, and the American high command thought the best way to solve that was to bisect the Christian States by first reaching and then driving through the Mississippi, cutting Texas off from their other population centres in Tennessee, Georgia and South Carolina.

Which I mean hell, it worked the first time.

Army Group South was caught in Texas like a bear in a trap, though, so they diverted most of Army Group North to march - yes, march - from their winter quarters in the Dakotas and Nebraska down through Kansas.

Full disclosure, the Junta sucks shit, but I'm an unapologetic fangirl of this particular campaign of theirs. See, the Christian States are aware that AGN is making a beeline for Oklahoma and northern Texas, so they start to prepare their defences there, transferring units from other fronts. And the US forces - under General Hartburn - pivot, barely skimming the outskirts of Tulsa to punch through Arkansas and towards the Mississippi.

The Christian States realised pretty quickly what was happening, but there wasn't a whole lot they could do - a thick band of ghouls prevented them from cutting off Army Group North's advance. The only thing standing between General Hartburn and breaking the Memphis ghoul cordon and then seize the length of the Mississippi… was ghoul-infested Little Rock.

It is a fucking travesty that the American Junta, like, tries to downplay this? They talk about the difficulties Army Group South had dealing with "fundies" in Texas, and explain that with the North iced over, they used Army Group North to clean up some of the southern ghouls and relieve the Blue Zones around there, but they, like, determinedly pretend this wasn't a war against a peer opponent.

It sucks, because it was a brilliant campaign.

Anyway, back to his interview - sorry for the diversion.

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For the first time the army saw us as teams, that a dog wasn't just a piece of machinery you could replace when "broken." They started looking at statistics of handlers who offed themselves after losing a partner. You know we had the highest rate of suicide among any branch of the service. More than Special Forces, more than Graves Registration, even more than those sick fucks at China Lake.[4] At Hound Town I met handlers from thirteen other countries. They all said the same thing. It didn't matter where you were from, what your culture or background, the feelings were still the same. Who could suffer that kind of loss and come out in one piece? Anyone who could wouldn't have made a handler in the first place. That's what made us our own breed, that ability to bond so strongly with something that's not even our own species. The very thing that made so many of my friends take the bullet's way out was what made us one of the most successful outfits in the whole fucking U.S. military.


I've heard it said that there was deliberation to this - that handlers were directly encouraged to form codependency with their dogs, because it gave them lower rates of burnout whilst the dog was alive - but I think it is easy to attribute the Junta too much, like, agency and competence?

The codependency just happened, and they didn't even take advantage of it very well.

Oh, and before anyone asks - I don't know what the fuck they did at China Lake. I only know what was common knowledge in the US Army before my wife deserted. I could speculate, but so can anyone else! It remains sealed by the US government, but whatever it was, even the freak shit scientists they had working there would not stop killing themselves over it. So make of it what you will.

Graves Registration was a pretty horrible job - is a pretty horrible job, I should say. They aren't done, and probably never will be.

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The army saw it in me that day on a stretch of deserted road somewhere in the Colorado Rockies. I'd been on foot since escaping my apartment in Atlanta, three months of running, hiding, scavenging. I had rickets, fever, I was down to ninety-six pounds. I found these two guys under a tree. They were making a fire. Behind them was this little mutt. His paws and snout were bound with shoelaces. Dried blood was caked on his face. He was just lying there, glassy-eyed, whimpering softly.


It is extremely weird how openly this book talks about how abjectly low the American barrier for entry into the military was? Like, they keep drawing attention to it. His qualifications for being recruited were "incredibly sickly and thin, with bonus homicidal rage when dogs are harmed" and they just… punted him directly into the Dog Handler programme. Absolutely wild policy decisions all around, but I guess given how much of their population they ended up needing under-arms…

Anyway, I'm pretty sure he lies about this dog, but I prefer to pretend I believe him when he says it went to a farm with a nice family and caught rats for them, so I will do so.

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I used to hate dogs.

Really?

Despised them; dirty, smelly, slobbering germ bags that humped your leg and made the carpet smell like piss. God, I hated them. I was that guy who'd come over to your house and refuse to pet the dog. I was the guy at work who always made fun of people with dog pictures on their desk. You know that guy who'd always threaten to call Animal Control when your pooch barked at night?


I know it seems like a pretty passé sentiment, but everyone changed their positions on, like, everything? Over the course of the war.

I had to get over a lot of phobias; I used to be terrified of rodents, the dark, confined spaces. And I used to enjoy being in the water; swimming, bathing, just floating there.

I can only shower now, I get terrible shivers if I'm in standing water even if it's only up to, like, my knees.

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I lived a block away from a pet store. I used to drive by it every day on my way to work, confounded by how these sentimental, socially incompetent losers could shell out so much money on oversized, barking hamsters. During the Panic, the dead started to collect around that pet shop. I don't know where the owner was. He'd pulled down the gates but left the animals inside. I could hear them from my bedroom window. All day, all night. Just puppies, you know, a couple of weeks old. Scared little babies screaming for their mommies, for anyone, to please come and save them.


This is harrowing. I know objectively there were - there are - worse things which happened in the Panic, Worse things are happening now - but the visual of dozens of puppies, locked in cages, starving, terrified and alone…

I'm not much of a dog person, but it hurts my heart.

I won't quote anything out of the last couple of paragraphs; the puppies die one by one, screaming for help as he listens, helpless. It is awful.

Next time we touch the Holy Russian Empire again, which is always a fucking joy to behold.

Anyway, y'all know the drill:

Donate to the Sanatorium for Infirm Women in Russia [HERE].

Donate to the Lakota [HERE] - they're trying to rebuild as well as they can.

Donate to a South/Central American group of your choice [HERE] - it's a masterlist.

AN: Okay, so it has been a while, and I'm sorry. On the plus side, I did get to write about a restored Confederacy getting once again split in half down the Mississippi by a Union Army, so that was thoroughly enjoyable to write. I hope this is as good to read.

Let me know what you think, and if you'd like, I'd be flattered if anyone gave a nomination in the Users' Choice Awards? This is eligible for best new work and best ongoing fic - obviously there's absolutely no pressure to vote for me, or to vote at all.
 
If I had to come up with a legitimate separate branch of doctrine and strategy for why dogs would be sent scouting so far ahead, I imagine it would be incorporating how much vaster a battlespace American army groups are expected to engage in across the great western expanse of suburban sprawl, redoubled by American style grinding static defenses. That Junta battle plans need much more fine detail work and micromanagement to find their perfect spot to make a stand, and that they thus need much more of a constant stream of data they can use to map out not specific infested basements, but overall regional patterns of swarms and all the potential avenues of chain-swarming and etc..., to compliment aerial observation.
 
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Article: Most countries were just copying the Israeli method of sending people past dogs in cages. You always had to keep them in cages, otherwise they might attack the person, or each other, or even their handler. There was a lot of that, early in the war, dogs just going ballistic. It didn't matter if they were police or military. It's that instinct, that involuntary, almost genetic terror. Fight or flight, and those dogs were bred to fight. A lot of handlers lost hands, arms, a lot of throats got torn out. Can't blame the dogs for it.

Once again, this is clearly a normal reaction of an animal to someone with a disease. There's nothing strange going on with this.
 
I've seen John Wick 4, which I assume to be a documentary, and it's left me with little trouble believing that a single well-trained dog is equivalent in power to a full spec ops team, so this whole chapter tracks, to me.
 
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[We are interrupted. As if on cue, a dog limps over to Darnell's side. She is old. Her muzzle is white, the fur on her ears and tail is worn to leather.]

[To the dog.]
Hey, little miss.

[Darnell gingerly lifts her to his lap. She is small, no more than eight or nine pounds. Although she bears some resemblance to a smooth-haired, miniature dachshund, her back is shorter than the standard breed.]


Alright so like, no disrespect to this guy - he's clearly just doing whatever he can to buy cheap sympathy donations for his dogs, since America has by and large stopped giving a shit about them, and I can respect the graft - but I am fully willing to rip the piss out of our crack journalist for being utterly credulous about that time where they were talking about the dogs and this guy's most heroic and pathetic dog just happens to arrive "as if on cue".

Truly his ability to avoid being bamboozled by his interviewee is staggering.

Yeah, agreed, you do what you can. It honestly doesn't take a lot of donations to help, and Cuba's close enough for me to know that there's a lot of grifters that sell fake shit or steal valor. So, like, of course he's going to use this opportunity to try to shill this still working. It had to have been a contributing factor for him agreeing to give the interview. People in positions like that, running marginal charitable operations, will crawl over broken glass for even a single mention in a local paper because that can absolutely translate into a tiny but desperately needed cash infusion.

So yeah, Max Brooks showing up here probably really was his one shining, golden opportunity to maybe get some help...

Of all the fucking bullshit stuff to come of this book, it helping a few dogs would at least be a tiny upside.
 
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[Darnell Hackworth is a shy, soft-spoken man. He and his wife run a retirement farm for the four-legged veterans of the army's K-9 Corps. Ten years ago farms like these could be found in almost every state in the union. Now, this is the only one left.]


I do have to begrudgingly give the Americans some credit here - they used dogs more and more effectively than anyone else. We never really went beyond using them at checkpoints and to scout for hidden ghouls, but the Americans used them for a lot more than that.

Of course, this isn't unalloyed praise - there's a lot of arguments about how useful a lot of what the Americans had their dogs do was, and some discussion about how humane the extent of their program was.
I'm mostly surprised those farms were real and not just a sarcastic half-euphemism for euthanasia. "We sent him to live in a nice farm upstate" is the stereotypical lie you tell kids when you don't want to admit the vet put your dog down.

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It all came down to training. You had to start young; even the most disciplined, prewar veterans were hardwired berserkers. The pups born after the crisis came out of the womb literally smelling the dead. It was in the air, not enough for us to detect, but just a few molecules, an introduction on a subconscious level.

This… what? This isn't why puppies are easier to train than fully grown dogs. You do not need to invent some biological reason why it is easier to train a puppy than a full dog. That's an answered question already.
Speaking of stereotypical dog-related phrases, everyone knows it's hard to teach new tricks to an old dog. If your prewar dogs were hardwired berserkers, that's because they were trained/abused until they started berserking everywhere.

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A lot of people nowadays call that inhumane, though they don't seem to have the same sympathy for the handlers.

People very much do criticise the American training regimen during the war.
If anyone tries to tell you "People are complaining about X but not about Y," they are lying. It might be because Y is basically a made-up problem that sounds equivalent, it might be because people complaining about X get more press coverage, but it's a lie either way. There are always people who criticize things.

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During the Denver push, there was a tall building where a couple hundred refugees had accidentally been locked in with the infection and were now completely reanimated. Before our guys could storm the entrance, one of the Ks had his own idea to run up to the roof of a building across the street and start barking to draw Zack up onto the higher floors. It worked like a dream. The Gs made it up to the roof, saw their prey, made for him, and went spilling over the side.

This is moronic. A couple of hundred ghouls in a sealed environment with only one exit is a pretty easy engagement for a platoon of soldiers - you set out a perimeter, which might need dogs for scouting, then you breach whatever is keeping them corked up in there, and then you maintain a disciplined rate of fire on the bottleneck they are coming out of.
If there's one thing the junta is good at, it's overcomplicating battles they could have won (or avoided) with simpler tactics.

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LRP was Long Range Patrol, when your partner would scout far beyond your lines, sometimes even traveling for days, to recon an infested area. They wore a special harness with a video uplink and GPS tracker that gave you real-time intel on the exact number and position of your targets. You could overlay Zack's position on a preexisting map, coordinating what your partner saw with his position on the GPS.

This is bizarre, to me. When we wanted long distance scouting of this sort, we used people on bicycles, usually.

The most important assets for a scout to have are adaptability and initiative - the ghouls aren't that dangerous to a mobile pair of well-armed soldiers with a clear line of retreat, so being able to adapt on the fly to really scout out and investigate the area is a pretty vital skill.
I heard one of the K-9 handlers insist that dogs gave a huge advantage for scouting, because they could get closer to infected people before they reacted. Dogs are smaller, quieter, and don't smell like human flesh. That part makes sense.

I wish I'd asked how they got the dog to point the camera at the things people need to know about. Or how they got the dog to explore in a specific direction for a certain amount of distance before returning. (They can't exactly read a map.) If the handler's close enough to direct the dog, he's more than close enough to alert the infected.

But I mean, yeah. Packs of feral dogs were no joke - are no joke in large swathes of the UK even now, if what I've heard is accurate. We were officially meant to tag them in some way and leave them for our animal control people to bring in, but generally speaking it was safer to fire above their heads to make them run, and if they didn't… You've got to do what you've got to do, sometimes.
The difference between a pack of wolves and a pack of wild dogs is that dogs aren't afraid of people. It wasn't quite as bad back when most of the older dogs remembered their human owners, but those good boys are gone now. The wild dogs we've got now all grew up scavenging human trash and scaring isolated scouts away from their campfires and stuff, even though they still look like Fido would if you didn't make him take baths.

There are more dangerous animals out there, but wild dogs are the second-most-likely animal to attack people, and it still sucks to put them down.
(The most likely is your own pet cat, but the way.)



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LRP was Long Range Patrol, when your partner would scout far beyond your lines, sometimes even traveling for days, to recon an infested area. They wore a special harness with a video uplink and GPS tracker that gave you real-time intel on the exact number and position of your targets. You could overlay Zack's position on a preexisting map, coordinating what your partner saw with his position on the GPS.

This is bizarre, to me. When we wanted long distance scouting of this sort, we used people on bicycles, usually.

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Pure bloods were a total washout. Too neurotic, too many health problems, everything you'd expect from breeding an animal for just its aesthetic qualities. The new generation [he gestures to the mutt on his lap] was always a mix, whatever would increase both physical constitution and mental stability.

Generally speaking pedigree dogs are desired by trainers because their traits are more predictable. This isn't universal, but he just doesn't mention it at all.
I see one of three things happening here.
  • Max Brooks is trying to subvert the idea that pedigreed dogs, the "proper" and "civilized" hounds, would be better than more down-to-earth mutts. Which would fit pretty well with some of his other habits.
  • Max Brooks is aware that some breeds have been bred to have such exaggerated physical features that they suffer serious health consequences for it, and is clumsily referencing that fact to seem more realistic.
  • The Brooks family had, at some time during Max's life, one or more exceptionally well-behaved mutts.
I'm in the third camp. I miss that little dog.

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If they were too far, a Lure or an LRP . . . too far for rescue and too close to Zack . . . we petitioned for Mercy Charges, little explosive packs strapped to the harness so we could detonate them if it looked like there wasn't any chance of rescue. We never got them. "A waste of valuable resources." Cocksuckers. Putting a wounded soldier out of his misery was a waste but turning them into Fragmuts, now, that they'd consider!


One of the consequences of using dogs for things like this is that they can't kill themselves in these situations, so instead you're left arguing for remote controlled suicide bombs, operable across miles of urban sprawl and through potentially metres of concrete.

No shit they refused this plan - you'd end up blowing up every third dog when the uplink blinked out.

That's the same reason they didn't ever make a lot of progress on the "fragmutts" concept, though I find it interesting that they mention it at all - the claim advanced occasionally in this book that explosions don't work on ghouls waxes and wanes based on how much attention the journalist is paying to all the plates he's trying to keep spinning.
Putting aside their inconsistent efficacy as weapons, explosive suicide vests as a mercy kill option sound ridiculous. Bombs are heavy, especially if you're carrying enough explosives to kill you painlessly (or so fast that you don't notice the pain, whatever), and whether you're a soldier in the trenches or a zombie-hunting scout, weight is at a premium. Also, you're carrying around a vest of explosives specifically designed to kill you when they go off. Carrying that around on anything but a suicide mission is asking for trouble, and probably not good for morale.

Anyways, remember that time the USSR wanted to train dogs to blow up Nazi tanks by strapping antitank mines on them, but they only had Soviet tanks on hand and Nazi tanks smell like gasoline instead of diesel, so they only trained dogs to blow up their own tanks?

The Christian States realised pretty quickly what was happening, but there wasn't a whole lot they could do - a thick band of ghouls prevented them from cutting off Army Group North's advance.
You know what sounds fun? A strategy (well, operations) video game where you play a general sending armies around, worrying about not just supply lines for food/fuel/ammunition but also roving hordes of the undead.

...maybe that's just me.


Yeah it is... horrible reading. When Brooks hits, he hits. Is it cheap and blunt to use dead puppies as an emotional cudgel? Yes. Does it still successfully upset me every time I read it? Also yes.
Say what you will about Brooks; he knows how to wring emotions out of people. When that's not impeded by conscious awareness of how vile the emotions he's trying to wring are, that's pretty affective.
 
I'm still trying to get over the fact that in order to justify how totally a normal disease ghoul plague is they need to start talking about absolutely debunked psuedoscience like genetic memory and dogs being innoculated with ghoul molecules in the womb.
 
I'm still trying to get over the fact that in order to justify how totally a normal disease ghoul plague is they need to start talking about absolutely debunked psuedoscience like genetic memory and dogs being innoculated with ghoul molecules in the womb.
It's like how Brooks claims his Zombies make perfect sense, when you know, they're somehow immune to explosions and water pressure, yet also explosives are considered elsewhere. And how his mystical bullshit zombies aren't magic, yet the water pressure should pulp them better than a head shot and ...

Is it me, or don't dead bodies float? Shouldn't Zombies be bobbing along in the tide and that explains how they get to islands and stumble out of the surf?
 
I wasn't aware the Americans engaged in, like, doggy phrenology about how the different puppies responded to ghouls, but I guess it doesn't shock me.
The ultimate urban war fighters. Sure, okay.

What really was the point of this, I have to wonder?
I have to imagine actual animal care professionals were relegated to the 'retraining' bin, so that'd leave the pool they have to draw from with actual handling experience comprised entirely of cop/army dog trainers and experienced amateurs. Even before the war that particular demographic had a whole range of bizarre and frankly abusive ideas on how dogs act and what they can do, I can't imagine the years following would've helped with that.

With that in mind it's a minor miracle that the program saw as much success as it did.
 
Is it me, or don't dead bodies float? Shouldn't Zombies be bobbing along in the tide and that explains how they get to islands and stumble out of the surf?

Well, live humans are buoyant largely because of the air in our lungs. A drowned persons body has lungs full of water when they die, so they initially sink. For forms of death that still leave clear lungs, I'd imagine if you took a fresh corpse and chucked it into the water, it would either float or sink depending on whether it lands face-up or face-down and how much water it takes in through it's orifices upon impact.

Now as the body decomposes, the post-mortem changes brought on by putrefaction will produce enough gases to make them buoyant again. But Brookes Zombie bodies rather transparently don't decompose like normal corpses do and have other sorts of oddities (like the black gunk for blood), so it's reasonable to suppose - in Watsonian terms at least - that'd have something to do with it.

Doyalistically, it's probably because Brookes didn't think of that.
 
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Nice to see another post! The U.S. definitely used dogs in a lot of ways that were...sub-optimal. I wonder how much of that has to do with how thin their resources were stretched, given all their other mismanagement.
 
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