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Let's Play Every Final Fantasy Game In Order Of Release [Now Finished: Final Fantasy Tactics]

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Omicron said:
Gaffgarion: "There are mercenaries like you in every generation. And I've felled every last one of them."
Ovelia: "Does the color of a lion's coat mean anything to you? When I close my eyes, the lion in my dreams... His fur is a deep, rich gold."
Orran: "As far as the chaos we find ourselves in these days, it's difficult to say which side drew the sword first."
Mustadio: "You really are too good at murdering people, Ramza."
Delita: "Yet, what is a nation? Can we actually see the physical lines that divide one from another?"
Agrias: "Stick with Ramza and you'll make it."
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Wiegraf: <<Can you see any nobles from here? What has nobility ever given us?>>
MISSILE MISSILE MISSILE
 
maybe the order of the ebon eye was actually just a bunch of dudes that particular guy had a history of punching in the face who got together to gank his ass and Delita just took advantage
 
MiskWisk said:
Are we sure Ramza's not a demon? He seems to have managed to hollow out people far more efficiently than the Lucavi.
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Arzalam is just writing a book specifically about and exonerating Ramza and doesn't give enough of a fuck to mention anybody else more than once or twice after they joined him except as part of the group he refers to as "Ramza's army".

Treatises on the lives of, say, Mustadio and Agrias can be done later after the one that upends common understanding of the history of the Church and the assassination of Pope Marge Funeral
 
Omicron said:
Gaffgarion: "There are mercenaries like you in every generation. And I've felled every last one of them."
Ovelia: "Does the color of a lion's coat mean anything to you? When I close my eyes, the lion in my dreams... His fur is a deep, rich gold."
Orran: "As far as the chaos we find ourselves in these days, it's difficult to say which side drew the sword first."
Mustadio: "You really are too good at murdering people, Ramza."
Delita: "Yet, what is a nation? Can we actually see the physical lines that divide one from another?"
Agrias: "Stick with Ramza and you'll make it."
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But how can Ramza be a mute psychopath with no blood when he's constantly screaming?
 
You must understand, the Tomb of the Heretic Ramza is a sacred place, for there are many seals on it prevent him from arising from his dark slumber to once again slay pretty much the entire ruling class
 
Since the Durai Paper exists, it can be safely assumed that Ramza survived for a number of years until Orran got to writing the Paper down.

He probably died of old age even. Delita is I think, smart enough to not poke the sleeping dragon that is Heretic Ramza, even if the Church is probably seething to get at the man who supposedly kill High Confessor Marcel.


Now that we are at endgame, I feel like Orran is actually absolutely insane trying to exonerate Ramza's reputation when they are only true with the inclusion of actual demons. Otherwise, Ramza's status as a fucking monster of a person, besieging 6 of the 7 Ivalice territory castles, the Fort Besselat and the high seat of the Church of Glabados and won is basically stuff you whisper in the dark night. Actual boogieman personified. Ramza is much more terrifying than the monsters borne of the Fifty Year War.

The balls of steel on Orran to even consider writing the Durai Paper when by all human logic what Ramza did is impossible to justify with just the normal magic available for Ivalicians.

Germonique Scripture level of crazy, basically.
 
Marla said:
Since the Durai Paper exists, it can be safely assumed that Ramza survived for a number of years until Orran got to writing the Paper down.

He probably died of old age even. Delita is I think, smart enough to not poke the sleeping dragon that is Heretic Ramza, even if the Church is probably seething to get at the man who supposedly kill High Confessor Marcel.


Now that we are at endgame, I feel like Orran is actually absolutely insane trying to exonerate Ramza's reputation when they are only true with the inclusion of actual demons. Otherwise, Ramza's status as a fucking monster of a person, besieging 6 of the 7 Ivalice territory castles, the Fort Besselat and the high seat of the Church of Glabados and won is basically stuff you whisper in the dark night. Actual boogieman personified. Ramza is much more terrifying than the monsters borne of the Fifty Year War.

The balls of steel on Orran to even consider writing the Durai Paper when by all human logic what Ramza did is impossible to justify with just the normal magic available for Ivalicians.

Germonique Scripture level of crazy, basically.
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Wait, how can you assume that?
 
Tirfarthuan said:
You know, I've been wondering for a while. The demons are church-approved real monsters, right? The bit that's been catching everyone off guard is the role the Stones play. But at least in principle the Lucavi themselves shouldn't be controversial. It's been horror and surprise, not disbelief, when the monsters actually show up.
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Kinda hard to show disbelief when you are dead about a few seconds after seeing them though. And most of the people who died are well-trained warriors, so their fighting instincts are probably the ones who acted first before their brains catch up.
 
Tirfarthuan said:
You know, I've been wondering for a while. The demons are church-approved real monsters, right? The bit that's been catching everyone off guard is the role the Stones play. But at least in principle the Lucavi themselves shouldn't be controversial. It's been horror and surprise, not disbelief, when the monsters actually show up.
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It would be kind of like after JFK was shot he stood up and declared "I am Legion, for we are many!" and then started a boss battle with his assassin in the middle of the street. There would be shock and horror but surprise and denial would take awhile to kick in.
 
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Marla said:
Now that we are at endgame, I feel like Orran is actually absolutely insane trying to exonerate Ramza's reputation when they are only true with the inclusion of actual demons. Otherwise, Ramza's status as a fucking monster of a person, besieging 6 of the 7 Ivalice territory castles, the Fort Besselat and the high seat of the Church of Glabados and won is basically stuff you whisper in the dark night. Actual boogieman personified. Ramza is much more terrifying than the monsters borne of the Fifty Year War.
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It's crazy to think that Ramza is some sort of super heretic, killing machine, with a body count equivalent of depopulating small towns. Like, over the course of a year or two, if one ascribes all the Lucavi's kills to him, he's got something like a four digit kill count.
 
Thozmp said:
It's crazy to think that Ramza is some sort of super heretic, killing machine, with a body count equivalent of depopulating small towns. Like, over the course of a year or two, if one ascribes all the Lucavi's kills to him, he's got something like a four digit kill count.
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Even in Chapter 1 he has been known to be an effective murder machine- people just didn't realize it since he was the new kid on the block, and a Northern Sky deserter after that.

Saving Elmdore, killing Milleuda, beating Wiegraf. All using a team of Gariland newbies.

If not because of all the politics and clash of ideals, Ramza could have been as high-ranked as Zalbaag in Northern Sky. Noble-born or not, he is genuinely talented.
 
StormyEyed said:
Agrias: "Hey Mustadio."
Mustadio: "Yeah?"
Agrias: "Is there a reason you never mentioned that holy water can be used to cure vampirism?"
Mustadio: ".... um."
Agrias: "Do you have any more on you, perchance?"
Mustadio: "..."
Mustadio: throws bag over a cliff
Mustadio: "Fresh out I'm afraid."
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Alternatively, we could get this

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8vspPIIaIk
Parzival said:
The Durai paper doesn't imply Ramza survives.
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It could be that Ramza dies, but his good friend Mustadio survives and—Bwahahaha, I can even type it with a straight face.
 
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