Let's Play Every Final Fantasy Game In Order Of Release [Now Finished: Final Fantasy Tactics]

All I'm saying is that the late president Deling made an excellent choice when he decided to ally the sorceress, clearly his plans of world domination would no doubt improve with her #girlboss energy and also he liked it when she called him a lowlife and I would too.
 
The Japanese text does have "SeeD" (in romaji), but "Garden" is just, well, "garden" (庭), and explicitly saying "... A SeeD. ... A seed (種) planted in a rotten garden". I assume players would also think Edea is making the link between "SeeD and Garden" with "seeds and gardens", but I think the Japanese script is playing it safe by making it especially obvious
I can't really blame them? At least, if I'm interpreting what you're saying correctly, the original Japanese still uses SeeD in English, so it's very much up for debate if the kids and teens they're marketing to would understand that.
 
Like, you know, just sniping her in the middle of the still active parade with no warning?
Nope. Remember the plan:
The parade will circle the town, then at 20:00 precisely, pass under the Arch. The Gateway Team will act, dropping the gates, locking the Sorceress's float, or carriage or whatever she'll be riding during the parade, inside the arch. The "carousel clock" in the clocktower (which is a clock that is also, literally, a carousel) will rise up at that time, giving the Sniper Team a clear shot from the roof of the Presidential Palace to the Gateway.

Until the carousel rises into the air, all the sniper team can see is a bunch of walls because the thing is resting beneath rooftop level inside the palace. And if I'm tracking the layout of the city correctly, by the time the carousel is fully deployed, if the gates haven't been dropped, Edea's vehicle will have already moved through the Arch to the other side, blocking her from view even from the top of the carousel.

The English translation did its best to interpret the more puzzling Japanese text, I think. There, Squall asks why the Sorceress is doing such a "gaudy" parade, and Caraway says the Sorceress wants to move to Galbadia Garden to use it as her base. Which is a non-sequitur, since we've seen that the parade is just making a loop around Deling City, as opposed to a procession to Galbadia Garden.
It makes some sense, I think--if the Sorceress is transferring her base of operations, she's not going to get another chance to put the citizens of Deling City under her mind control spell.

I'll admit that this means you have to buy into the supposition that her powers are enough to keep the citizens under her thrall even while she's away.

(I forget what format; I don't think it was AVI. MPG, maybe?)
I thought they were QuickTime MOVs.
 
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Oh right forgot to throw together some bestiary scans for this update, though granted it's mostly multiple new enemies popping up in the sewers of all places:


Grand Mantis is like six times the size of a person btw.

 
Was this a good twist? I go back and forth on it. It really has some of the hallmarks of the old 'why could I tank seven Blizzagas when we were doing this as a gameplay fight and now she's just flicking a bunch of ice spears at me and Squall suddenly can't block and die' cutscene/gameplay separation. At the same time, the fact that Edea wasn't using half of the arsenal she displayed in previous scenes during the fight suggests she was half-assing it to begin with, and the cutscene that precedes the ice spears is clearly framed as her powering up and 'getting serious' with her next attack. So… I think it works, for me.
There's an actual in universe explanation, but it won't come up until Disk 3. We'll see if you find out for yourself, but I'm sure someone will just tell you if you miss your window of opportunity.

I would respect the game if it had the balls of actually following through and doing something like 'Squall is dead for real, Seifer is party leader now' but, let's be real, that's not going to happen (and the story would probably be weaker for it). Definitely an appropriately shocking ending to Disc 1, though.
Ugh. There's an entire subset of players that are so butthurt over the rest of FF8's plot that they will swear to their fucking death that everything that happen after this point in the plot is just Squall hallucinating as he dies. Delusional, the lot of them.
 
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If I were in Galbadia, if i were a Deling Citizen, I'd probably see Edea's ascension as an improvement.

Like, sure she's buttering it on a bit thick but hey, it's gonna help get us to gender parity.

Plus, it's not like the evil sorceress would kill me! i'm voting for her.
 
Notably, Caraway says that their duty is to make it sure that the Sorceress goes down, "even if it means compromising their identity," which… seems to suggest that this might actually be a principled stand on his part rather than part of an internal power play? He doesn't care if he's executed for treasons, ending the moral compromission of Galbadia's involvement with Edea is more important to him.


Sons of Galbadia! Brothers in arms!

Our nation stands upon the brink of annihilation! Our democracy has been subverted, and worse than that, the superiority of martial heritage has been corrupted! No longer will Our brave soldiers face their enemies on the battlefield, instead they will cowerwhile effete, subversive magick users seize rulership of rightful Galbadian lands!

RISE UP, MEN OF GALBADIA! Stand tall against this decadence and depravity! Rise up, for our democracy! Rise up, for the glory of our nation and the fighting spirit of our warriors!

THIS POST IS DEDICATED TO THE BRAVE FREEDOM FIGHTER GENERAL CARRAWAY AND THE LOYAL SOLDIERS OF THE GALBADIAN WHITE ARMY!
 
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I would be surprised if either game used mocap to any significant degree, being from the late 90's.

I mean, they probably did use at least some? It's been used in video games since the early 90s at the latest, because it's such a labour saving tool that it's just not economically competitive to do it any other way. It's also a lot harder for hand-animation to give you any sort of comparatively 'real feeling' motion.

And Spirits Within came out in 2001, only 2 years after FFVIII, Phantom Menace was doing full mo-cap in 1999, and Gollum was live mo-capped in 2002's The Two Towers. The tech was clearly there, and Square was very clearly heavily invested in it (as seen with Spirits Within).
 


Sons of Galbadia! Brothers in arms!

Our nation stands upon the brink of annihilation! Our democracy has been subverted, and worse than that, the superiority of martial heritage has been corrupted! No longer will Our brave soldiers face their enemies on the battlefield, instead they will cowerwhile effete, subversive magick users seize rulership of rightful Galbadian lands!

RISE UP, MEN OF GALBADIA! Stand tall against this decadence and depravity! Rise up, for our democracy! Rise up, for the glory of our nation and the fighting spirit of our warriors!

THIS POST IS DEDICATED TO THE BRAVE FREEDOM FIGHTER GENERAL CARRAWAY AND THE LOYAL SOLDIERS OF THE GALBADIAN WHITE ARMY!

I see someone's more into stern (but caring) older men in uniform.

Well, to each their own.
 
I would be surprised if either game used mocap to any significant degree, being from the late 90's
I don't remember right now where I saw it, but there's actual "making of" footage of the FFVIII developers using mocap for the waltz scene, with real dancers going through the motions of the ball, since that was the only way to digitally recreate a sequence so physically complex.
 
I don't remember right now where I saw it, but there's actual "making of" footage of the FFVIII developers using mocap for the waltz scene, with real dancers going through the motions of the ball, since that was the only way to digitally recreate a sequence so physically complex.

Ah, yeah, for the FMVs makes sense. I was mostly skeptical about the in-engine stuff like Rinoa's dismissive wave to her dad.

Of course, I didn't say that.

...whatever.

:V
 
It may not be a good decision, but Quistis's loneliness and the implication that other Garden instructors look down on her, I can see why she decided to personally apologize to Rinoa before the insult festered.

Like. This is a woman who turned to Squall for emotional intimacy. She's not exactly picky here about the opinions she counts on! And she might see a bit of herself in how the SeeDs look down on inexperienced Rinoa, too.
 


Sons of Galbadia! Brothers in arms!

Our nation stands upon the brink of annihilation! Our democracy has been subverted, and worse than that, the superiority of martial heritage has been corrupted! No longer will Our brave soldiers face their enemies on the battlefield, instead they will cowerwhile effete, subversive magick users seize rulership of rightful Galbadian lands!

RISE UP, MEN OF GALBADIA! Stand tall against this decadence and depravity! Rise up, for our democracy! Rise up, for the glory of our nation and the fighting spirit of our warriors!

THIS POST IS DEDICATED TO THE BRAVE FREEDOM FIGHTER GENERAL CARRAWAY AND THE LOYAL SOLDIERS OF THE GALBADIAN WHITE ARMY!
Critical support to girlboss sorceressism if this is the alternative.
 
I feel like the last update needs to be retitled. The thread and the author clearly stan a girlboss, and there was plenty of gaslighting, but it appears like the Sorceress isn't really into the Gatekeeping part of the slogan.
 
Carbuncle is, indeed, the cutest GF. Also I'm iffy on the details of staning for this particular girlboss if what she promises is eternal lotus dream suffering. But I guess for the Galbadians a tyrant is a tyrant is a tyrant.

And put a pin on Irvine freaking out for later. As hands off with their emotional wellbeing as they may be, it seems unlikely the Gardens wouldn't notice their sniper specialist getting the jeevies at the idea of actually carrying out his intended function, and one as particularly demanding and delicate as sniping is.
 

And put a pin on Irvine freaking out for later. As hands off with their emotional wellbeing as they may be, it seems unlikely the Gardens wouldn't notice their sniper specialist getting the jeevies at the idea of actually carrying out his intended function, and one as particularly demanding and delicate as sniping is.

TBF, it's possible that up until now he was tasked with taking down relative nobodies. Enemy grunts and minor officers and nosy journalists sniffing around that posh hotel and so on.

It's not murder that scares him, it's affecting history in ways he can't control or predict. He's afraid of becoming the guy who shot JFK and became in some way responsible for what came next.
 
...Hm. Why, though? What would he gain from that that's worth the risk?

Well, we know that Edea has mind control powers, and that Galbadia Garden has been nominally aligned with Galbadia proper until recently. Who's to say that Edea hasn't visited the Garden at some point, under a pretext of diplomacy, and compromised Martine then? If it's possible for mind her mind control to manifest more subtly, like how Seifer may be under, it's entirely possible Martine was turned long ago and is setting our group up to fail.

It would also offer a reason as to why she was so unsurprised by the events happening tonight, beyond general big bad paranoia; she knew from the start what the plan was, and was fully prepared to counter it.

If she uses this event as a pretext to immediately declare the Gardens enemies of the state, and goes to take them over for herself, I'm going to say that was the plan all along.

Which, honestly, all of this is really selling her villain cred. We have no idea who might be under her control at any given time, and the only way to know would be to be familiar with a given person and being able to tell when something is off with them and how they're acting, which all circles back to the theme of communication and exchange of information. If you're closed off and don't know enough about the people around you, you'd have effectively no defense against her, wouldn't you?
 
Which, honestly, all of this is really selling her villain cred. We have no idea who might be under her control at any given time, and the only way to know would be to be familiar with a given person and being able to tell when something is off with them and how they're acting, which all circles back to the theme of communication and exchange of information. If you're closed off and don't know enough about the people around you, you'd have effectively no defense against her, wouldn't you?

The solution is simple, really: join the sorceress. You don't need to fear mind control if you're on the side of mind controller.
 
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