"Ah spent sae muckle time in character that ah cannae git rid o' this corny accent. Kin we focus oan th' threaten, please?"
Let's Play Every Final Fantasy Game In Order Of Release [Now Finished: Final Fantasy Tactics]
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"Ah spent sae muckle time in character that ah cannae git rid o' this corny accent. Kin we focus oan th' threaten, please?"
Guile
Having a really great time right now
I love Yuffie's date event.
It's the perfect opportunity to pick all the silly options like kissing the dragon, and Cloud answers "Oh my gawd, Cloud, say something, PLEASE" with "... something." I wanted her to SPRINT out of that lift like all the demons of teenage awkwardness were nipping at her heels.
It's the perfect opportunity to pick all the silly options like kissing the dragon, and Cloud answers "Oh my gawd, Cloud, say something, PLEASE" with "... something." I wanted her to SPRINT out of that lift like all the demons of teenage awkwardness were nipping at her heels.
CAIT SITH: "Would you like your fortune read? Just gaze into my magic crystal ball and see your future revealed!"
YUFFIE: "... ...That's a Mate-"
CAIT SITH "MAGIC CRYSTAL BALL, yes! Just like I said."
AERITH: (Eyes slightly unfocused) "I don't know Yuffie, It looks like a magic crystal ball to me."
CLOUD: (Clearly drooling) "Yeah, don't be rude. If our new best friend Cait Sith says it's a magic crystal ball, then obviously it's a magic crystal ball."
21stCentury
Let's get down to bismuth
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- Canada
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- They/Them
Hmmmmmmmmmmm.
Why is only Yuffie immune?
Mind control class was after rope class?
Zap Rowsdower
Ex-cultist vagrant
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- Bright lights, big city
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- He/Him
Can't control what she doesn't have.
Kuja
I'M A SQUIIIID
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- AZ
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Overexposure to large quantities of materia has burned out the receptors in her brain and possibly also some of her DNA.
Remember kids, some rocks do have an aura, and it's an aura of "fuck you."
- Location
- Texas
I imagine there's a lot of repeat customers showing up to see what the unlucky schmucks do this time.
And as for Cait… Well, most fan fiction doesn't get this far. But my favorite re-interpretation of this little scene has the whole party spend a night on the town, and Cait sneaks the keystone out while everyone's distracted. The theft isn't realized until the next morning, and he readily confessed to the crime. See, he was a spy, but grew sympathetic to the party's cause. And while he was tasked with getting the keystone, the rest of Shinra had gotten the location of the Lost Temple. So he handed over the stone, so the party could trail Shinra. A nice twist on the usual "villains swoop in last second to benefit from the heroes' hard work."
Kuja
I'M A SQUIIIID
- Location
- AZ
- Pronouns
- He/Him
"You follow best by following from in front. Thus your prey never has a chance to realize they're not the predator." - Wraith Squadron
More than ever I think Cope Seethe should've been an actual fae spirit pacted with his Shinra counterpart and doing his best to troll everyone involved - or at least a robot who thinks that's what he is, to the same result.
ZerbanDaGreat
Daemon Noble of D E M O G R A P H I C S
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- They/them
It's pronounced Ket Shee because he has a real name from actual Earth, the same way that if there was a character named Geoff you'd be a dipshit for insisting it was pronounced 'jee-off'.
According to Dirge of Cerberus, the itself cat acts as a voice modulator (having its own separate voice actor), so anyone who speaks through it will sound Scottish on the other end.
MiskWisk
Hoot
- Location
- Somewhere devoid of wit
- Pronouns
- He
Your logic is sound, but I have a counter!
I was 6 when I first played this game and without a pronunciation guide there is no other way I was going to pronounce it. Ergo, by playground rules, I win.
- Location
- SV's Only Complete Persona Quest
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- She/Her
Like how Monty Oum kept insisting Schnee was pronounced with an 'ee', despite the actual German word being pronounced like 'Schneh'
- Location
- Texas
Just when you think Shinra couldn't get any more evil, they unveil a device so diabolical, it forces people to speak with a Scottish accent.
Oh. Well, I'm not keeping this thought to myself. We can all can suffer together.
Is Cait Sith a fursona?
Vocalist
Verdant Maiden in Violet
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- By a Cedar Tree
Okay, I am a sucker for villain redemption stories (evidence: all the fanfiction I have ever written), but this Cait Sith needs to do some serious good deeds if I'm going to accept him by the end.
...I do admire the sheer brass balls, though. He gets caught out as a traitor and then goes, "🙀 You caught me! 😼But you're still going to keep me in your party, so I can betray you again, or otherwise this adorable little girl gets it." I would be infuriated. I would probably starve him of EXP as punishment.
@Noxlux013 Hey, could you pass me a link to that fan fiction you just mentioned? As already established, I am a sucker for a good villain redemption story.
...I do admire the sheer brass balls, though. He gets caught out as a traitor and then goes, "🙀 You caught me! 😼But you're still going to keep me in your party, so I can betray you again, or otherwise this adorable little girl gets it." I would be infuriated. I would probably starve him of EXP as punishment.
I am getting a lot of use out of my Meow reaction these days. 😺
@Noxlux013 Hey, could you pass me a link to that fan fiction you just mentioned? As already established, I am a sucker for a good villain redemption story.
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Guile
Having a really great time right now
At the most basic level... yeah, probably.
A fursona doesn't need to be a sexual thing. It's just a vehicle to express yourself. Kind of goes against the spirit of the thing to use your fursona to commit corporate espionage instead of, say, hang out with Red XIII, but I'd probably invoke the Air Bud rule on that one.
Ain't nobody said a mech pilot can't use their fursona to betray their frenemies.
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21stCentury
Let's get down to bismuth
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- Canada
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it's a persona with animal features.
Textbook definition of fursona.
I can just see Cloud in the Remake asking that question with a puzzled expression on his face.
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- They/Them/She/Her
Something's occurred to me: Cait Sith can use materia. Which means that either robots can use materia, or people can use material remotely.
...Hm. Well, we know that machines can interact with mako, because, well, mako reactors, for one. So the former's possible. That also seems like it'd make things like large, automated materia arrays possible, though, technology that seems like it'd have a lot of potential uses. And machines could level up materia, too.
On the other hand, if (current, at least) drones don't have the control to use materia themselves, then there's some sort of long-distance connection being established directly between the materia Cait Sith is "using" and Cait Sith's controller -- and what else could that sort of connection be used for?
...Now I'm also wondering what the control system is. Like, is the operator sitting in an office chair in front of a couple of monitors, wearing a headphones+microphone headset and using something like a game controller? VR headset with some degree of motion capture? Direct brain-computer interface of some sort?
I'd say it's a lot more important that, at the moment, we don't know what level of personal investment there is in the design. The operator developing Cait Sith's form themself is a different situation than them being handed it but liking it is a different situation than being handed it and considering it purely a tool the form of which matters only for functional purposes.
So I guess it's also possible that Cait Sith, even in a situation where it's not a fursona of the operator, could be the fursona of someone or something else, if we define it that way.
...Hm. Well, we know that machines can interact with mako, because, well, mako reactors, for one. So the former's possible. That also seems like it'd make things like large, automated materia arrays possible, though, technology that seems like it'd have a lot of potential uses. And machines could level up materia, too.
On the other hand, if (current, at least) drones don't have the control to use materia themselves, then there's some sort of long-distance connection being established directly between the materia Cait Sith is "using" and Cait Sith's controller -- and what else could that sort of connection be used for?
...That's not how it's pronounced? Huh. What is it, then?ZerbanDaGreat said:
Oh, hm. Interesting question. Hard to answer at this point, I think, since saying too much about the machine's controller would be spoilery (though, as it happens, I also don't actually remember enough about the machine's controller to answer it at the moment, anyway).Noxlux013 said:
...Now I'm also wondering what the control system is. Like, is the operator sitting in an office chair in front of a couple of monitors, wearing a headphones+microphone headset and using something like a game controller? VR headset with some degree of motion capture? Direct brain-computer interface of some sort?
Eh, I don't think the presence or absence of a sexual aspect is important to the determination? As you say, it can be either.Guile said:
I'd say it's a lot more important that, at the moment, we don't know what level of personal investment there is in the design. The operator developing Cait Sith's form themself is a different situation than them being handed it but liking it is a different situation than being handed it and considering it purely a tool the form of which matters only for functional purposes.
Hm. Yeah, yeah, I guess there can be a grey area there. I was at first going to mention sport mascot costumes and the like as a counterexample, but then it occurred to me that the mascot of a sports team might not be the fursona of the person wearing the costume but could be potentially considered one for the team itself. (At least, I assume; I'm not very into sports.)21stCentury said:
So I guess it's also possible that Cait Sith, even in a situation where it's not a fursona of the operator, could be the fursona of someone or something else, if we define it that way.
Geoff, short for Geoffrey, is a variant of Jeff and is pronounced the same.
Blame the English.
21stCentury
Let's get down to bismuth
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- Canada
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- They/Them
I was joking with the "Cait Sith is a fursona" thing, i should have added a tone indicator.
Cait Sith is a mascot, mascots generally are not fursonas, even the ones with animal features.
The difference between a mascot and a fursona is the personal link between an individual and the persona.
Also a fursona does not need a fursuit to be valid and a suit will not always be of a fursona.
Consider the muppets, after all. Many have animal features, but they are not personas of people, they are original characters.
The difference between original character and fursona can be a bit nebulous, it's true, but the fact that Cait Sith is presumably a mass produced mascot of a known character like Mickey Mouse disqualifies it from being a fursona.
I hope this post was helpful.
Kadmus
Dragon's teeth are surprisingly hard to sow
- Location
- Devon
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Yeah, unless it turns out that the Shinra guy driving the drone considers it an extension of himself, it's just a disguised drone, not a fursona, AFAICT; there's no personal connection there at the moment. It'd be a bit like saying 'this RC car is your fursona' just because you drive it around occasionally.
21stCentury
Let's get down to bismuth
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- Canada
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Even if there were a personal connection, Cait Sit and Mog are pre-existing characters. Like, if the person in a mickey mouse suit really bought in to the Disney Mindset, they still couldn't say "Hey, Mickey Mouse? That's My Fursona".
MiskWisk
Hoot
- Location
- Somewhere devoid of wit
- Pronouns
- He
Hmmm... come to think of it, what did the party think Cait Sith and Mog were? I think Mog is called out as a robot right away but Cait Sith isn't.
I suppose they already met Red so a talking cat isn't impossible, but even so, did no one notice Cait Sith doesn't need to eat or drink?
I suppose they already met Red so a talking cat isn't impossible, but even so, did no one notice Cait Sith doesn't need to eat or drink?
Egleris
Vagrant Dragon
- Location
- Italy
As Asimov pointed out in a story where a robot was masquerading as a human, it's perfectly possible to make a robot who can ingest food, especially if you are giving it a mouth anyway, and with a chamber in its belly to store the "eaten" food until time can be devoted to empty that chamber, which humans do happen to have an explicitly designed facility for in each of their dwellings, which is visited in absolute isolation multiple times a day.
So... if the cat is meant to pass as a person, then it'd be able to pretend to eat and perform all associated bodily functions well enough to pass a cursory inspections, and we have no obvious indication that Cait Sith doesn't eat, so it's easy to default that yeah, he can pretend to eat well enough.
So... if the cat is meant to pass as a person, then it'd be able to pretend to eat and perform all associated bodily functions well enough to pass a cursory inspections, and we have no obvious indication that Cait Sith doesn't eat, so it's easy to default that yeah, he can pretend to eat well enough.
Nottheunmaker
Altman be praised
- Location
- USG Ishimura
So wait. Earlier it was speculated that Gold Saucer was a Shinra run operation, right? That the whole thing with the reactor and burning Corel was all done so this place could be built?
Dio is pleased (AS HE FUCKING WELL SHOULD), and awards us not only the Keystone,
Then why would they not just order Dio to hand over the Keystone? It's no secret he has it, and it'd be some much faster. He doesn't seem that attached to it. Plus Shinra wouldn't have to risk their spy in the party.
To me, all that makes it seem like Gold Saucer is some level of independent from Shinra. But how and why? Did Dio pay for it himself? How much money would he have ro have for something like that, and how involved would he have been with what happened to Corel?
I'm very confused.