SolipsistSerpent
Endlessly Devouring
It literally means "Fairy Cat". Well, "Cat Fairy." Sith being along the lines of "Sidhe" (Also pronounced "Shee").
Let's Play Every Final Fantasy Game In Order Of Release [Now Playing: Final Fantasy IX]
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Damn, beat me to it. Well, here's the source for anyone interested.
Just as we walk in, the greeter announces that, as the 100th couple today, we have been elected for a special privilege: to play the leads in tonight's show.
Yeah, Cloud, you and me both.
God, if this happened to me in real life I would combust on the spot.
Given the nature of Gold Saucer, it would make more sense for it to be a paid service for rich assholes: pay lots of gil to be an actor before a paid audience cheering you on and professional actors guiding your performance and going along with your "jokes". If you're a narcissist, this would be great.
Instead they've created a perfect murder tool for socially awkward people.
Control Materia.
Dybbukpossesed
Falling Somewhere
- Location
- California
The staff member tells us that there is going to be a show at the 'Event Square,' which is a theatre we've been to before but which was never showing anything at the time. Tonight is different, though.
Just as we walk in, the greeter announces that, as the 100th couple today, we have been elected for a special privilege: to play the leads in tonight's show.
Yeah, Cloud, you and me both.
So looking back on that sequence, what are the odds that Cait Sith arranged for that to happen to give him more time to steal the keystone? Because if he did that's honestly some amazing trolling.
An increasingly frazzled Cait rushing around the Gold Saucer trying to remotely direct a kidnapping black-op, while simultaneously also trying to secretly co-ordinate the perfect Little Mermaid style "Kiss the Girl" first date for Cloud and Aerith. Not just as a distraction, but because Cait's a romantic at heart, and frankly Cloud could use all the help he can get. At this point, the 2003 Newgrounds flash parody writes itself.
Egleris
Vagrant Dragon
- Location
- Italy
Yep, as others have said, there's four possible dates, with all three girls as well as Barret. I wanted to put a link here so you could check out the byzantine system that decides who the date is, but as it happens, the wiki in that page has a spoiler for the very end of the game, which I'd totally forgotten about. So, please don't go check that out by yourself.
Overall, Tifa isn't that hard to get - you just need to blow off Jessie at the beginning, always choose the options that prioritize Tifa or her interest when she comes up (at the bar at the beginning, for example, accept the drink when she offers it, say that you'd never leave her instead of apologizing, flirt about sleeping next to her; claim her as your girlfriend when Aerith asks; when you fall into the sewers, check on her first; when situations like Marlene asking if you like Aerith or being given the chance to express jealousy of Aerith's previous boyfriend, never do so; pick Tifa but not Aerith whenever the game specifically asks "which team are you forming?", such as when saving Red XIII or leaving Midgar; disagree with the woman in Kalm that says Mako energy is good actually; etc), and you'll get her date legitimately. It's not necessary to use the bug of telling her "I'll get us out" in the prison 255 times to get Tifa as a date, it just takes being consistent about always preferring her.
Yuffie, on the other hand, you can only get by specifically gunning for it with pre-knowlege, since you need to repeat her recruitment four or five times near-perfectly and then specifically pick all the options that reduce the other girls interest, most of which are out of character for Cloud; if you recruit her first try, then her date isn't happening. Barret is possible to get by accident because, while he starts with the lower score, there are a number of situations where failing to do the thing that earns points for either Tifa or Aerith defaults to handing points over to Barret, and he also has a few situations where he earns points just by talking to him and saying things he agrees with, which mostly fit Cloud's character and thus are likely picks. It's still hard, because it requires lowering Aerith's score as I mentioned before while also lowering Tifa as much as possible, but it can be done - especially because doing the correct rendition of the Wall Marked section (the one where Cloud is picked by Don Corneo) and then answering Corneo's question by mentioning Barret actually gives him a solid boost.
You honestly did bad enough with the barrel minigame that I suspected you'd manage to get Tifa, but after you brought Aerith along for Barret's backstory (that's actually one of the most important events to determine closeness with Cloud) and didn't get Tifa's unique dialogue in Gongaga, which she only has if you've earned enough points with her, I guessed it'd end up being Aerith in the end.
I would suggest looking at all four dates though, if only for the fun of it - you can probably reach them all from the link that appear at the end of the Barret date video that was posted:
The Yuffie date especially is worth watching since it's, in my opinion, even more out of left field than Barret's in how it plays out.
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ZerbanDaGreat
Daemon Noble of D E M O G R A P H I C S
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FF7 Date Mechanics Wiki Page said:
Holy shit, Yuffie canonically doesn't care if the child gets whacked by the evil robot cat. You sure know how to pick 'em with your go-to party, Omi.
Yuffie: Kid should've paid more attention to rope class.
MiskWisk
Hoot
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- Somewhere devoid of wit
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- He
So regarding the Battle Square, the main time to do it to actually earn the rewards is later in the game, since Omnislash gets a discount and the full reward table opens up. With the discount, it's theoretically possible to get Omnislash after three runs, but that requires you get almost the max amount of BP per run.
As a little fun note, you can do the Battle Square with any character. So, if you don't feel like playing with Cloud, you can instead have, say, Tifa run the gauntlet.
In addition to this, there is a special match you can unlock if you buy the top two prizes and do some other stuff. It's Cloud only unfortunately, but it's actually easier in my opinion. The enemies are the same each run, and since you don't care about BP at that point, you can force the better handicap options without worrying about maximising points. There are some valuable rewards for doing it, but they aren't necessary for anything.
As a little fun note, you can do the Battle Square with any character. So, if you don't feel like playing with Cloud, you can instead have, say, Tifa run the gauntlet.
In addition to this, there is a special match you can unlock if you buy the top two prizes and do some other stuff. It's Cloud only unfortunately, but it's actually easier in my opinion. The enemies are the same each run, and since you don't care about BP at that point, you can force the better handicap options without worrying about maximising points. There are some valuable rewards for doing it, but they aren't necessary for anything.
Egleris
Vagrant Dragon
- Location
- Italy
Eh, it's more that she doesn't know Marlene personally and so her speaking up when Marlene asks for her dad wouldn't reassure the kid any. I don't think she says anything to imply she wouldn't care if Marlene was hurt. When Cloud says at the end "guess we don't have any other choice", Yuffie's comment is "yup", which doesn't really seem like what she'd say if she didn't care about the danger Marlene was into.
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Remind me to come back to this post in a few updates.
ZerbanDaGreat
Daemon Noble of D E M O G R A P H I C S
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yes but after the trend of the party and yuffie being vicious to each other this made for a funny data point, sometimes things are jokes
- Location
- Ireland
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- He/Him
very excited for the big reveal that yuffie isn't just a piece of shit because she's a teenager, but is in fact an actual sociopath
GilliamYaeger
M'crazy.
A particularly brilliant bit of gameplay-story integration.For now, we have a new addition to our party roster, though it'll be a while before we have a chance to check out what it is they do.
Cait Sith has the 'Manipulate' Materia, which may be a kind of Command command, like Beastmasters/Relm? We'll see, I guess. Also their weapon of choice is… a phone??? Oh, no, that's just the character count issue, it's a megaphone. They attack by shouting at people. Incredible.
Aside from the date, the relationship mechanic comes to play a few times. From top of my head (and this could be all):
1. If, when entering the Gold Saucer, you decline to pick someone to go with, the character with the highest points will join you (or, if it's Barret, Red will)
2. The dialogue in Gongaga will change if you have high enough points.
3. one (1) incoming scene. We'll mention it when we get there.
1. If, when entering the Gold Saucer, you decline to pick someone to go with, the character with the highest points will join you (or, if it's Barret, Red will)
2. The dialogue in Gongaga will change if you have high enough points.
3. one (1) incoming scene. We'll mention it when we get there.
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- The Land of Many Bregrets
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- They/Them
One possible solution is that, given Cait Sith is a remote controlled drone, it could always be controlled by someone else.
I could, for example, see Marlene taking control of it so she can accompany her dad / the party without actually being in danger.
Kadmus
Dragon's teeth are surprisingly hard to sow
- Location
- Devon
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- He/Him
It's such a weird flex to go 'oh, here's the soulless corporate man(?) who's stolen the Keystone (how? why was it left where someone could fucking take it, you have Yuffie still hanging around, is every single person in the party legitimately just brain damaged from Mako exposure?) and handed it over to King Of The World Rufus Shinra and his Genocide Goons, oh and he's kidnapped Barret's daughter and is blackmailing you into silence' and then imagine there's any confluence of events that would make the player go 'well that was bad but we'll forgive you'.
But the designers must think that, because even a cursory exploration of FFVII-related stuff has CS show up in it as something other than a pile of chopped and pummeled circuitry.
But the designers must think that, because even a cursory exploration of FFVII-related stuff has CS show up in it as something other than a pile of chopped and pummeled circuitry.
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Listen, that cat is very cute, and every time he touches his funny yellow orb I can't help but think that he's got good points.
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- Lost in Hell
Let it never be said that Dio doesn't know how to run a Casino.
What it is is an incredibly funny juxtaposition to the last production a FF game put on.
I want to see this so bad.
Reading this, I assumed you were going to say you expected the Gold Saucer's plays to be performed by desperate, drafted prisoners. Write the name of your favorite actor on the card under your seat at the end of the play to vote for the one you want to set free!
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Connelly
As useless as a penguin with mittens
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- Salamanca, Spain
The "of course he's getting away with it, he has a manipulation gameplay item" is nice and all, but something tells me the narrative isn't really leaning on that and this is just the writers not realizing how confounding the text comes across. Is the translation leaving out something important from the original text?
- Location
- Brittany, France
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- He/Him
Unfortunately, attempts at discerning Cait Sith's dialogue in the alternate fan-translations of the game are obscured by their decision to give him a phonetically-rendered thick Scottish brogue.
MiskWisk
Hoot
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- Somewhere devoid of wit
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- He
When Cait Sith (pronounced Kate Sith (like in star wars) (fight me)) got given a voice in the spin offs they gave his english voice a scottish accent. Honestly it wasn't anywhere near as thick as that picture makes it though.
I can still understand him at any rate and I live south of York.
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Zap Rowsdower
Ex-cultist vagrant
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- Bright lights, big city
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- He/Him
For what its worth him having an accent is canon to the Japanese; in that he speaks Kansai/Osaka dialact rather than the Kanto/Tokyo dialect that gets treated as default ala Newscaster English.
Generally Osaka Japanese gets translated as Brooklyn or Southern American (I.E, Texas or Mississippi, that accent family region) dialects, but Scottish isn't a terrible mismatch stereotype-wise either, and fits his Celtic name better.
Generally Osaka Japanese gets translated as Brooklyn or Southern American (I.E, Texas or Mississippi, that accent family region) dialects, but Scottish isn't a terrible mismatch stereotype-wise either, and fits his Celtic name better.
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That begs the question: does the corporate drone controlling the Fey Cat have an accent, or do they put on an accent to sell the persona? Even in the middle of a highly emotional scene where both their treachery and self-doubt are revealed?