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It's still quite a good write in, it'd just be volunteering for the perform check at the end that Tsubaki would feel unconfident about.
[L5R] Minor Clan Quest
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It's still quite a good write in, it'd just be volunteering for the perform check at the end that Tsubaki would feel unconfident about.
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[X] Now, Hiruma-san. You should not be so hasty in your censure.
[X] The Crab Clan sacrifice so much in their service for the Empire, and so there are many others that are fortunate enough that they need not do the same. The stories of those who do must always be told though and so we are most fortunate for those like Ikoma-dono who tell their tales.
--[X] A shame then that then that the story he has chosen suffers so for the length of its telling. There are many others that shall now go untold.
--[X] Indeed this is an odd story for Ikoma-dono to choose - for while we must always remember and respect the ancestors who came before us, they who worked with a singular purpose as only some still do - there are so many Samurai, so nearby who sacrifice so much for the safety of the Empire this very day upon the Wall. Is that not a more appropriate story of Valor and Sacrifice?
[X] Spend the next day or so speaking to Crab warriors about their own stories of valor and sacrifice, looking for a good one. Talk with Hiruma-san about it first. Is his story any good for the purpose?
- [X] Once you have a proper story gathered together, present it for the crowd in an appropriate venue.
[X] By attempting to assist - A few people may be offended by your criticisms of their skills, but a bit of assistance in helping them develop their skills could be well-received.
[X] Spy on them - Wakaba has gotten much more skilled at intrigues of late, and due to the disorganized nature of such factions, they would necessarily be easier to observe than their host clans.
[X] The Crab Clan sacrifice so much in their service for the Empire, and so there are many others that are fortunate enough that they need not do the same. The stories of those who do must always be told though and so we are most fortunate for those like Ikoma-dono who tell their tales.
--[X] A shame then that then that the story he has chosen suffers so for the length of its telling. There are many others that shall now go untold.
--[X] Indeed this is an odd story for Ikoma-dono to choose - for while we must always remember and respect the ancestors who came before us, they who worked with a singular purpose as only some still do - there are so many Samurai, so nearby who sacrifice so much for the safety of the Empire this very day upon the Wall. Is that not a more appropriate story of Valor and Sacrifice?
[X] Spend the next day or so speaking to Crab warriors about their own stories of valor and sacrifice, looking for a good one. Talk with Hiruma-san about it first. Is his story any good for the purpose?
- [X] Once you have a proper story gathered together, present it for the crowd in an appropriate venue.
[X] By attempting to assist - A few people may be offended by your criticisms of their skills, but a bit of assistance in helping them develop their skills could be well-received.
[X] Spy on them - Wakaba has gotten much more skilled at intrigues of late, and due to the disorganized nature of such factions, they would necessarily be easier to observe than their host clans.
I give in to temptation. Backing up allies is right, but we lack the skill...so we draw in someone who does.
Arguments make me reluctant to decide hmm...
[X] By attempting to assist - A few people may be offended by your criticisms of their skills, but a bit of assistance in helping them develop their skills could be well-received.
[X] Spy on them - Wakaba has gotten much more skilled at intrigues of late, and due to the disorganized nature of such factions, they would necessarily be easier to observe than their host clans.
Could be an opportunity or could be a trap.
Watch but don't poke yet.
Also we're against the Crane often enough that making it official would make it WORSE.
Right now, they are hitting at us because we're annoying.
If we visibly team up with their enemies it becomes both professional and personal to deal with us.
Contemplative, probably. We've shown we are willing and able to play the courtly game, spin it round and rather benefit our enemies than take a hit ourselves, which is something they can respect.
Meanwhile from our perspective the Crane getting more Glory back after the massive hit we dealt them earlier isn't so bad. They're a Great Clan. They're always going to get that back eventually.
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[X] By attempting to assist - A few people may be offended by your criticisms of their skills, but a bit of assistance in helping them develop their skills could be well-received.
[X] Spy on them - Wakaba has gotten much more skilled at intrigues of late, and due to the disorganized nature of such factions, they would necessarily be easier to observe than their host clans.
[X] Spy on them - Wakaba has gotten much more skilled at intrigues of late, and due to the disorganized nature of such factions, they would necessarily be easier to observe than their host clans.
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Well that's unfortunate...
Ok, slightly different plan then.
[X] Now, Hiruma-san. You should not be so hasty in your censure.
[X] The Crab Clan sacrifice so much in their service for the Empire, and so there are many others that are fortunate enough that they need not do the same. The stories of those who do must always be told though and so we are most fortunate for those like Ikoma-dono who tell their tales.
--[X] A shame then that then that the story he has chosen suffers so for the length of its telling. There are many others that shal now go untold.
--[X] Indeed this is an odd story for Ikoma-dono to choose - for while we must always remember and respect the ancestors who came before us, they who worked with a singular purpose as only some still do - there are so many Samurai, so nearby who sacrifice so much for the safety of the Empire this very day upon the Wall. Is that not a more appropriate story of Valor and Sacrifice?
---[X] Perhaps another day I shall tell that story. Unfortunately I have little time left now, and obligations that take me elsewhere.
[X] Spend the next day or so speaking to Crab warriors about their own stories of valor and sacrifice, looking for a good one. Talk with Hiruma-san to see if he can recommend an appropriate story.
-[X] Once you have a proper story gathered together, present it for the crowd in an appropriate venue.
--[X] A story of those who serve upon the Wall; of their courage, of their valour, their sense of duty and above all their sacrifice. (Make those listening think more favourably of those who serve on the Wall and the Crab as a whole.)
[X] By attempting to assist - A few people may be offended by your criticisms of their skills, but a bit of assistance in helping them develop their skills could be well-received.
[X] Spy on them - Wakaba has gotten much more skilled at intrigues of late, and due to the disorganized nature of such factions, they would necessarily be easier to observe than their host clans.
Sirrocco
Pedantic
Eh? I think the last bit you added is a bit redundant, but I can see the value of giving people a teaser of our plans. It gives the Crane a bit more of an opportunity to try to play spoiler, but I'm not sure how much of that they could do without undue cost to themselves. Vote edited.
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The reasoning for this was to again somewhat subtly point out how much time the Ikoma has taken up at the expense of everyone else.
And since it doesn't fully commit us to anything I thought it'd be ok.
And also to tease the potential performance with the hope of a larger audience.
And since it doesn't fully commit us to anything I thought it'd be ok.
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The Ikoma are the acknowledged masters of Storytelling. And while Tsubaki has Perform: Oratory, she does not have Perform: Storytelling. I might be nice and let you use a canned speech to use Oratory at a penalty instead of Storytelling given how similar the skills are, but volunteering to perform definitely has some risks to it.
On the other hand, if you can pull it off, your Silken Song technique will come into play and help you change people's minds, so there is some benefit to trying to set up said opportunities.
On consideration, I think I'd pretty much just chop the end off of @HastyGaming's write-in:
[X] Now, Hiruma-san. You should not be so hasty in your censure.
[X] The Crab Clan sacrifice so much in their service for the Empire, and so there are many others that are fortunate enough that they need not do the same. The stories of those who do must always be told though and so we are most fortunate for those like Ikoma-dono who tell their tales.
--[X] A shame then that then that the story he has chosen suffers so for the length of its telling. There are many others that shal now go untold.
--[X] Indeed this is an odd story for Ikoma-dono to choose - for while we must always remember and respect the ancestors who came before us, they who worked with a singular purpose as only some still do - there are so many Samurai, so nearby who sacrifice so much for the safety of the Empire this very day upon the Wall. Is that not a more appropriate story of Valor and Sacrifice?
I like that part, as it's surface-level respectful enough that I don't think it opens us up much to counter-attack, while still getting the point across. But I don't like our odds at trying our own story, particularly when we'd be telegraphing it in advance and giving the Lion/Crane a chance to arrange an audience of Doji courtiers making snarky remarks at us behind their own screen or something.
Rest of the vote remains unchanged.
[X] By attempting to assist - A few people may be offended by your criticisms of their skills, but a bit of assistance in helping them develop their skills could be well-received.
[X] Spy on them - Wakaba has gotten much more skilled at intrigues of late, and due to the disorganized nature of such factions, they would necessarily be easier to observe than their host clans.
[X] Now, Hiruma-san. You should not be so hasty in your censure.
[X] The Crab Clan sacrifice so much in their service for the Empire, and so there are many others that are fortunate enough that they need not do the same. The stories of those who do must always be told though and so we are most fortunate for those like Ikoma-dono who tell their tales.
--[X] A shame then that then that the story he has chosen suffers so for the length of its telling. There are many others that shal now go untold.
--[X] Indeed this is an odd story for Ikoma-dono to choose - for while we must always remember and respect the ancestors who came before us, they who worked with a singular purpose as only some still do - there are so many Samurai, so nearby who sacrifice so much for the safety of the Empire this very day upon the Wall. Is that not a more appropriate story of Valor and Sacrifice?
I like that part, as it's surface-level respectful enough that I don't think it opens us up much to counter-attack, while still getting the point across. But I don't like our odds at trying our own story, particularly when we'd be telegraphing it in advance and giving the Lion/Crane a chance to arrange an audience of Doji courtiers making snarky remarks at us behind their own screen or something.
Rest of the vote remains unchanged.
[X] By attempting to assist - A few people may be offended by your criticisms of their skills, but a bit of assistance in helping them develop their skills could be well-received.
[X] Spy on them - Wakaba has gotten much more skilled at intrigues of late, and due to the disorganized nature of such factions, they would necessarily be easier to observe than their host clans.
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Remember that the tally program only registers your most recent vote and discards previous ones.
If I recall correctly, our QM is hand-tallying, but I went ahead and edited the other two choices in for completeness.
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Yeah, pretty much. I have a mac so running the tally program is dependent on other people for me for now - and luckily I'm not torroar or Zoat or any of the other people around the forums for whom tallying manually would be truly inconvenient.
[X] Now, Hiruma-san. You should not be so hasty in your censure.
[X] The Crab Clan sacrifice so much in their service for the Empire, and so there are many others that are fortunate enough that they need not do the same. The stories of those who do must always be told though and so we are most fortunate for those like Ikoma-dono who tell their tales.
--[X] A shame then that then that the story he has chosen suffers so for the length of its telling. There are many others that shal now go untold.
--[X] Indeed this is an odd story for Ikoma-dono to choose - for while we must always remember and respect the ancestors who came before us, they who worked with a singular purpose as only some still do - there are so many Samurai, so nearby who sacrifice so much for the safety of the Empire this very day upon the Wall. Is that not a more appropriate story of Valor and Sacrifice?
[X] By attempting to assist - A few people may be offended by your criticisms of their skills, but a bit of assistance in helping them develop their skills could be well-received.
[X] Spy on them - Wakaba has gotten much more skilled at intrigues of late, and due to the disorganized nature of such factions, they would necessarily be easier to observe than their host clans.
[X] The Crab Clan sacrifice so much in their service for the Empire, and so there are many others that are fortunate enough that they need not do the same. The stories of those who do must always be told though and so we are most fortunate for those like Ikoma-dono who tell their tales.
--[X] A shame then that then that the story he has chosen suffers so for the length of its telling. There are many others that shal now go untold.
--[X] Indeed this is an odd story for Ikoma-dono to choose - for while we must always remember and respect the ancestors who came before us, they who worked with a singular purpose as only some still do - there are so many Samurai, so nearby who sacrifice so much for the safety of the Empire this very day upon the Wall. Is that not a more appropriate story of Valor and Sacrifice?
[X] By attempting to assist - A few people may be offended by your criticisms of their skills, but a bit of assistance in helping them develop their skills could be well-received.
[X] Spy on them - Wakaba has gotten much more skilled at intrigues of late, and due to the disorganized nature of such factions, they would necessarily be easier to observe than their host clans.
Sirrocco
Pedantic
Wait... our Awareness is 6, right? Spending a void point, that sets us at 7k7. That's not quite as good as we could pull if we had a few points in the relevant skill, but it's not like that's an embarrassing level. Average outcome is still a touch over 42. That's not necessarily at "utterly mindblowing" levels, but it's still pretty darn good. What kind of standards are we dealing with here?
We're dealing with challenging a Great Clan in their specialty area.
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But we're not challenging anyone?
We're leveraging an insult by the Crab against a Lion to secure an opportunity to tell a positive story about the Crab.
We're not even challenging the Ikomas telling of the story, just that he chose an incredibly long one for obvious reasons.
Wade Garrett
Just trying to do the right thing
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To be fair, the Lion delegation probably can't pull some kind of "All I know is Perform: Storytelling" Ikoma idiot savant kid out and destroy Tsubaki at this Court like the Crane did with their little Iaijitsubot.
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Sirrocco
Pedantic
Admittedly, we're also questioning him for his story selection. The implied insult to the Lion clan as a whole (that they're not dong anything all that significant and not sacrificing all that much) is the bigger deal, really.
If they can pull out a kid who's managed the equivalent of 6k6 base (because everyone has void) in storytelling...
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we can kinda duel because we are good at combat in general, we can't really do the same for storytelling. we do not want to risk getting maneuvered into a storytelling contest.
Sirrocco
Pedantic
We have Awareness 6, which is basically superhuman. We kind of can. As for getting maneuvered into a storytelling contest... he could challenge us to a storytelling duel, but it's worth remembering that we're "in another room". That's the only thing that makes the Hiruma's opener anything less than a duelable offense.