I've seen some warship personification and other type of games.
Present ships named the same, especially from the similar era
Lexington (Lexington class)
and
Lexington (Essex class)
As 2 different characters.
And I've seen other works instead of presenting them as 2 different individual characters.
Have them as the same character, and Essex class represents an upgrade and outfit change.
And I've seen other works instead of presenting them as 2 different individual characters.
Have them as the same character, and Essex class represents an upgrade and outfit change
Except it's like saying two people with the same name should be exactly the same, despite differences.Having it where Lexington (CV-2) could then evolve into Lexington (CV-16) makes much more sense than having two separate people running around.
Not really? I mean, my dad was in the RCN and from conversations with him, I never got the feeling that two ships of the same name were treated as being the same ship. Sharing the same crest and battle honours, yes. But not as being the same ship, different hulls.Yeah, that would make sense. I'm used to the British Commonwealth tradition where the things like a ship's crest and battle honours are passed on from ship to ship as if it was the same ship all along. Having it where Lexington (CV-2) could then evolve into Lexington (CV-16) makes much more sense than having two separate people running around.
No, you're not the only one who feels that way.It's quite possibly the meme I loathe the most of any (discounting Sara ones) to be honest. The idea of making a spirit that essentially body jacks her descendants just does not sit right with me and never has. Not even talking about how it is fairly insulting to the successor.
Take Lexie. She served much, much longer than Lex. She has an entirely different design, crew, construction (though I see her as the only Essex (discounting maybe Hornet) to look like her namesake considering how the yard that built her was the same as the one that built Lex and they begged the Navy to rename the CV they were building in honor of CV-2) and a different name. To say that Lexie is Lex is to say that a name change means Lex's spirit overwrote Cabot's.
Seriously, I can't be the only one to find this cruel at best.
No this meme is fucking older then KC man. It was in planefriend quest in one of the early threads.IIRC, this was yet another meme that came from GG, SoDak's Ghost story about how BIG E never dies and all of that. The memes, Jack. The memes. Another poster also thought that HMS Victorious (the tallship) is the same as HMS Victorious (the carrier), even though the two are seperated by centuries, building materials, and purpose, among other things.
Seriously, this idea is dumb at best, though I do mantain that ships that have the name of a previous vessel do get some kind of trinket (or a small physical trait) from their predecessor. DDG!Kongou could have Battleship!Kongou's headband, for example. Minitoga could get CV-3's hairpin, etc.
It's quite possibly the meme I loathe the most of any (discounting Sara ones) to be honest. The idea of making a spirit that essentially body jacks her descendants just does not sit right with me and never has.
This really depends on the assumption that ships are like humans in how they develop, though, that there's a gestation and so forth. In simplest terms, that there was a Cabot existing, rather than just the possibility of Cabot in the future. (Ships aren't always completed, much less completed the way they were envisioned.) And there is very much a sliding scale on whether the shipgirls are humans or merely human-shaped.
So I can see various versions of Lexington being different. I can also see Lexington losing consciousness in the Coral Sea and waking up in a new body. The metaphysics are open to interpretation.
so you're talking about the reincarnated soul supplanting the native soul.
Doesn't help that for the Lexington example that CV12 was to be name something else (think Kearsarge) and was change before she was launched.
Lexington CV-16 was laid down as Cabot. Her keel plate still has Cabot stamped into it.
It's not unheard of, the Pensacolas had 8" triples over doubles, and the original design for the Lexington CCs was 14" triples over doubles.Looks to unbalanced. The three gun turrets should be on the weather deck, not in the super firing positions.
Looks to unbalanced. The three gun turrets should be on the weather deck, not in the super firing positions.
Yup:The Nagato Kai Ni seems, IMO, to be based on Hiragas proposal for a treaty battleship, which also had 16" triples over doubles.
Yup, those, thank you as I didn't have a picture on hand.