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It's Turbin' Time (Library of Ruina Modded/Arknights)
- Thread starter thenew
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- Crossover
questioningmeme
Just be yourself
- Location
- River of Light
I think you meant "Out of your league"?
"A wise decision. The mother of Abnormalities' wish for humanity's salvation is admirable, but the correct means to do so remain out of her reach. Come, loyal disciple. Walk with me under my gentle grace. Worship Me. Place your Faith in me. Submit yourself to me. Then, and only then, shall you receive Salvation and be allowed into Paradise."
As for the vote.
Sounds good enough. Personally speaking, I can't believe Carmen would so something as horrible as freaking throwing an Eternal Meal look alike onto us.
But it seems like his mechanic is more similar to the Mountain of Smiling Bodies for now. Ugh. No matter how we look at it, this is a rather bad situation. Screw you Carmen!
[X] Shock the others out of their surprise by giving directions:
-[X] Exusiai and Mostima, provide covering fire and keep their distance. Tell Exusiai to switch to live ammo if she has any.
-[X] Sora and Bison, evacuate old man Tung and call for back-up, the big guns preferably, while the rest of us keep the monster in place.
-[X] Texas and Croissant should accompany you on the frontline to keep "Capone" in one place. Since you're fighting against the unknown, save your strength and only go all out in bursts to save yourself or your allies if anyone slips up.
-[X] If anyone has any tricks up their sleeve or any help to call on, now is the time!
questioningmeme
Just be yourself
- Location
- River of Light
"Heathen who challenges thy saviour, why dost thou deny salvation?"
questioningmeme
Just be yourself
- Location
- River of Light
I don't think she needs them to be.
Capone literally wasn't even in that bad of a situation and Carmen got him to distort still.
questioningmeme
Just be yourself
- Location
- River of Light
Yeah. That's not really all that bad.
Like seriously. It really wasn't that horrific.
It seems horrific because the Voice on his shoulders made it out to be.
His circumstances aren't lacking in the Arknights world. Roland literally said it best "If a bad day is all it took, then everyone and their mother would be a Distortion."
Like seriously. It really wasn't that horrific.
It seems horrific because the Voice on his shoulders made it out to be.
His circumstances aren't lacking in the Arknights world. Roland literally said it best "If a bad day is all it took, then everyone and their mother would be a Distortion."
JmonsterNEO
Spouter of nonsense
- Location
- The quest forums
Is it wrong that I want her in my head just so I have a direct line to constantly insult and pester her?
Warhammer however(either one, really) oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, would we have a fucking problem the orks would probably all distort the instant Carm touches them with the Light because they only have base desires.
questioningmeme
Just be yourself
- Location
- River of Light
Nah. They would give her the middle finger. They are the most expressive of anyone in the Warhammer verse after all.
Now the humans. More specifically the nameless masses. Oof that's a funny scenario.
I would say she would just leave and distort someone nearby like she did with Sieg in that scenario.
drearyArchon
Chaos Lord Chaos
- Location
- The Floor of Social Sciences
After reading Leviathan Chapter 18, I can put up a summary of Carmen's views and arguements.
Carmen believes that every action we take is fundamentally driven by self-interest. Any action we take for another, we're really only taking for ourselves. Because the only person in the world who can fully understand yourself and see yourself in its totality is you. No one else can understand and love you as truly as you can, so self-love is really the only one that's real.
In this world, everyone has their own colors/world they want to make. So, everyone has to do their best to protect their own colors. Even if a difficult ordeal looms ahead, they have to be willing to fight and win. Fighting each other with things like reason and tools contaminates you. It doesn't always happen quickly, but engaging people like that dilutes your desires until your color, what you truly want, becomes faded and forgotten. We've seen this happen in the City, and even with Capone to an extent.
By turning people into Distortions, Carmen helps others paint the City in their own colors and create the world they think is right. She helps the people of the City love themselves and reveal the true shape and color of 'them,' which is what E.G.O. Manifestations and Distortions are, essentially.
The Distortions are those who reveal the true shape and color of their hearts, while others may call them twisted or abnormal. From the Distortion's point of view, it is they who are abnormal. Distortions become fundamentally themselves without being bound by The City's views and standards.
Capone, for example, becomes more 'himself' by Distorting, unbound by things like 'Siracusa' or 'Family' because those things only ever cared about the puppet they strung up with their rules.
In Verguilius' words:
Carmen believes that every action we take is fundamentally driven by self-interest. Any action we take for another, we're really only taking for ourselves. Because the only person in the world who can fully understand yourself and see yourself in its totality is you. No one else can understand and love you as truly as you can, so self-love is really the only one that's real.
In this world, everyone has their own colors/world they want to make. So, everyone has to do their best to protect their own colors. Even if a difficult ordeal looms ahead, they have to be willing to fight and win. Fighting each other with things like reason and tools contaminates you. It doesn't always happen quickly, but engaging people like that dilutes your desires until your color, what you truly want, becomes faded and forgotten. We've seen this happen in the City, and even with Capone to an extent.
By turning people into Distortions, Carmen helps others paint the City in their own colors and create the world they think is right. She helps the people of the City love themselves and reveal the true shape and color of 'them,' which is what E.G.O. Manifestations and Distortions are, essentially.
The Distortions are those who reveal the true shape and color of their hearts, while others may call them twisted or abnormal. From the Distortion's point of view, it is they who are abnormal. Distortions become fundamentally themselves without being bound by The City's views and standards.
Capone, for example, becomes more 'himself' by Distorting, unbound by things like 'Siracusa' or 'Family' because those things only ever cared about the puppet they strung up with their rules.
In Verguilius' words:
Verguilis said:
In her defense, her mind probably isn't exactly working straight.
Edit:
To add onto that, there's an in universe quote from an Elder Philosopher that points out that, from a certain point of view, the Orks might just do society the best out of all the races, because they do what they like, and they like what they do, and the are succeeding as a race.
Existential dread, nihilism, angst all occured because the elder and humanity asked themselves questions, and the Orks did not.
So yeah, Orks in general are living high on life as a standard. The hell that is WH40K for basically everyone else is a zoggin' good time to the Orks.
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LucidProp
Pocky Eating MafiaDoka
Makes me wonder how things would have gone down if we picked the other places.
Kjerag had several people on the ropes, some very politically relevant (Ratatos Browntail after her murder-suicide attempt at SilverAsh for example). Though, Kjeragandr would probably intervene at that point so it won't be quite a disaster I think. Plus, Black Knight's there and she's possibly the physically strongest person on Terra outside of Patriot and the Abyssal Hunters.
If it was Kazimierz, that depends on if it was during Maria Nearl or Near Light. Both showcased the unique hardships the infected go through in a hypercapitalist society, so there'd be plenty of targets for Carmen. There's a lot of top level fighters present in Kazimierz though (Candle Knight, Knightmare Knight, Blood Knight, Left-Hand Tytus, the entire Nearl family, Silverlance Pegasus, the Lazurites, etc.), so any distortion there would need to be incredibly strong or haxx to last more than a few seconds. Maybe Maria Nearl unlocks her Ego during the rigged fight with those Sarkaz assassins and we finally learn why she has a skill called Divine Avatar.
Kjerag had several people on the ropes, some very politically relevant (Ratatos Browntail after her murder-suicide attempt at SilverAsh for example). Though, Kjeragandr would probably intervene at that point so it won't be quite a disaster I think. Plus, Black Knight's there and she's possibly the physically strongest person on Terra outside of Patriot and the Abyssal Hunters.
If it was Kazimierz, that depends on if it was during Maria Nearl or Near Light. Both showcased the unique hardships the infected go through in a hypercapitalist society, so there'd be plenty of targets for Carmen. There's a lot of top level fighters present in Kazimierz though (Candle Knight, Knightmare Knight, Blood Knight, Left-Hand Tytus, the entire Nearl family, Silverlance Pegasus, the Lazurites, etc.), so any distortion there would need to be incredibly strong or haxx to last more than a few seconds. Maybe Maria Nearl unlocks her Ego during the rigged fight with those Sarkaz assassins and we finally learn why she has a skill called Divine Avatar.
Unless we enter into an AU version of Kjerag where Silverash makes his move without RI present I don't think we'd have much to worry about there because Kjerag's issue was that Kjeragandr did such a good job taking care of her people that they're too 'soft' to deal with the rest of Terra.
Kazimierz on the other hand would definitely be a ripe disaster with all the similarities to the City it has. I actually think Platinum would've been a prime candidate for Carmen's brand of going loco given her issues.
Kazimierz on the other hand would definitely be a ripe disaster with all the similarities to the City it has. I actually think Platinum would've been a prime candidate for Carmen's brand of going loco given her issues.
[X] Shock the others out of their surprise by giving directions:
-[X] Exusiai and Mostima, provide covering fire and keep their distance. Tell Exusiai to switch to live ammo if she has any.
-[X] Sora and Bison, evacuate old man Tung and call for back-up, the big guns preferably, while the rest of us keep the monster in place.
-[X] Texas and Croissant should accompany you on the frontline to keep "Capone" in one place. Since you're fighting against the unknown, save your strength and only go all out in bursts to save yourself or your allies if anyone slips up.
-[X] If anyone has any tricks up their sleeve or any help to call on, now is the time!
-[X] Exusiai and Mostima, provide covering fire and keep their distance. Tell Exusiai to switch to live ammo if she has any.
-[X] Sora and Bison, evacuate old man Tung and call for back-up, the big guns preferably, while the rest of us keep the monster in place.
-[X] Texas and Croissant should accompany you on the frontline to keep "Capone" in one place. Since you're fighting against the unknown, save your strength and only go all out in bursts to save yourself or your allies if anyone slips up.
-[X] If anyone has any tricks up their sleeve or any help to call on, now is the time!
- Location
- Iceland
Ah, so she's just delusional, oh dear.
- Location
- Iceland
Just as long as its not Talulah, poor girl has been through enough already.
Edit: makes me wonder how badly she'd get roasted if she tried to go for someone like her namesake Saint "Shut up Kal'tsit" Carmen
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- Location
- USA
Human only, or near enough. Aka Cam can only get to those who are a part of the human collective subconscious.
questioningmeme
Just be yourself
- Location
- River of Light
Problem is.
Carmen's version of what is considered human is VERY broad.
Angela qualifies as a human even though she is purely a machine.
LITERALLY liquid flesh in mechanical bodies, like the sweepers, are also considered humans. Those creepy giant man-eating spider-mouth carnival dudes and dudettes are also humans.
Even Distortions and Abnormalities, detached from everything that is human as they are, are also considered humans. With the latter specifically NOT being born as humans.
From The Light's point of view, I think the Orks would fit right in.
You would have to be EXTREMELY alien for the Light to see you as something that isn't a human.
Carmen's version of what is considered human is VERY broad.
Angela qualifies as a human even though she is purely a machine.
LITERALLY liquid flesh in mechanical bodies, like the sweepers, are also considered humans. Those creepy giant man-eating spider-mouth carnival dudes and dudettes are also humans.
Even Distortions and Abnormalities, detached from everything that is human as they are, are also considered humans. With the latter specifically NOT being born as humans.
From The Light's point of view, I think the Orks would fit right in.
You would have to be EXTREMELY alien for the Light to see you as something that isn't a human.
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kaillll
Judgment Upon You
The only few reason i see that the light accepted Angela is because she have Carmens memory and she literally stole more than half of it.
Other than that, all the example you made is formerly human.
Sweepers are changed human childs or adults by their 'grandmother' That lives in the Outskirts.
Abnormality and distortions are all formerly human. One is extracted out from human and other is just human, but in a different form.
so I think the requirement is you at least need to be a part of humanity at one point or you have to forcefully take control of it.
Other than that, all the example you made is formerly human.
Sweepers are changed human childs or adults by their 'grandmother' That lives in the Outskirts.
Abnormality and distortions are all formerly human. One is extracted out from human and other is just human, but in a different form.
so I think the requirement is you at least need to be a part of humanity at one point or you have to forcefully take control of it.
thenew
#1 Masters of the Bazaar Fan
- Location
- My Lodgings
To be frank I can't imagine a Sweeper Distorting. They all seem genuinely well-adjusted and incredibly caring for each other. You know the City is awful when the cannibalistic nightmares of mad science have better support systems then humanity.
Also, many abnormalities were made from humans through the Well. See Nothing There. And they're literally aspects of humanity. Not to mention that we've never seen Carmen talk to one.
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