Irresistible Force (Naruto/The Gamer SI)

Well he has just graduated to a new level of crazy. He is now "That Guy." It's a game you play called traumatize everyone. Now where is that Green Jump suit. "YOUTH!!!"
 
Something that stands out to me is the flippant first-name use. Hatake-san or Hyuuga-san instead of Kakashi and Hiroshi. -kun for students or juniors, -dono for (young) lords. Though, of course, a lot of this can just be handwaved by saying that Elemental Nations society isn't a one-for-one with feudal Japan, so it's really up to your preference.
I don't understand Japanese naming conventions, nor do I understand their suffix and prefix conventions. I do and I don't, but at the same time, while Naruto's world will take after some of the Japanese culture, it'll take after others too. I never understood that, worlds having the same culture, obviously they'd be different. The circumstances shape the world, duh.

I honestly plan to explore culture later on in the series, how different lands have different cultures, so on and so forth. But yeah, I suppose we'll be using a different 'naming convetion' / 'speech convention' than feudal japan. It's odd to me as a person who is English born and raised, to use someones family name first. It feels more distance / insulting when I do it.
He is, uh, certainly not the most Hyuuga-like.
The quote below most certainly fits my answer, but I'll expand a little I suppose. Hiroshi don't give a fuck about their perceived notions on how he should act, he honestly doesn't. It'll alienate him from more potential allies that it'll gain him by acting haughty and proud but at the same time, he knows how the Naruto world works.

He's well aware that no matter how strong he gets, unless he can literally reshape the goddamn continent that he's simply small fry against the serious threats of the world. He knows he's gonna need all the help he can get. Not to mention, that hes slightly free spirited, as their psychological condition never really stuck onto him. He won't follow their stuck up ways when he doesn't have too because hes well aware where he stands and he just doesn't have it in him to be like that all the time. Sometimes, sure, not all the time.
Repression, the most wonderful way to get random results.
This is an amusing quote that I want to include some time, Hiroshi - *Better put the pole back up my arse, the elders want to see me today.*

Anyway, I'm working on the next chapter currently, what did y'all think of this one?
 
I had little to no doubt that one of the two knew how to forage and survive in the wilderness, and as the Council of Alzheimer's Anonymous cared more about their art than my basics, I didn't know how to survive in the wilds without prepared survival equipment. An oversight that would either be corrected on my own time or in the academy.

This is actually rather good leverage to get the Hyuuga Council to give him some damn free-study time. Just play it that, if it wasn't for his fast-talking skills, he would have been totally embarrassed in front of the Uchiha.
 
Have you ever heard the term "false binary"?

Sure I have, but just because a term exists, does not make it applicable in every case. Had you posited that my statement was a false binary, instead of just suggesting it, would've been a good example of a false binary!

Have you ever heard of the term "true binary"?

There can be some people more successful than others, but that doesn't change that you can categorize people into success or failure.

Pole-vaulters can leap various heights on a continuum, but they either clear the bar or they don't.

Same with a Loser Protagonist vs. a "Mary Sue", because if you hate people for being a good protagonist, that only leaves people who are not!

"Homer Bundy" does not mean that the Loser protagonist is a blending of Homer Simpson and Al Bundy, it refers to the lowered expectations that have come over time due to people accepting Al Bundy's family as the 'norm'.

There are two ways a fic can go, the Heroes either win or they lose.

For the Heroes to win they either need for:

The Heroes to have some sort of advantage over the Villains. Which they may not have handy or know about!

The Villain to defeat themselves. (Which includes the Villain giving the Heroes time to 'Level up' while they don't!)

Some convenient 'Gift' to come along and hand Victory to the Heroes. (Which covers things as powerful as the CYOA powers or minor as being able to get more or faster benefits from exercise.)

Or a combination of two or more of the above.

I personally prefer for Heroes to Win!

I didn't coin the term 'Mary Sue' nor was I the one to apply it to every OC that was actually competent. And I wouldn't have to bring it up in so many fics, if people didn't define 'Mary Sue' that way as a method to shame authors into holding back their characters, rewriting sections that they find 'incredible', or abandoning a popular fic.!

When the anti-Mary Sue crowd start posting in fics, they don't just post in badfics, most of where I've seen them is popular fics! Probably due to them having heard it reccomended somewhere.

And they don't only post a warning if the character is some sort of godlike harem building reality bending perfect person either, they've accused just about any character that shows competence and shamed good writers into rewriting or abandoning really enjoyable fics!

So I don't let them get a foothold into fics that I am enjoying!
 
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Sad that the chapter was so short but happy that I have something more to read.
Hehe, hopefully my chapter that's coming today / tomorrow will alleviate the 'sad that it was so short' feeling. ^.^, I'm aiming for at least 5 - 10K.
This is actually rather good leverage to get the Hyuuga Council to give him some damn free-study time. Just play it that, if it wasn't for his fast-talking skills, he would have been totally embarrassed in front of the Uchiha.
OI, You!
This will become relevant later on, a few chapters down the road. Now I've gotta ask, did you guess that or could you tell that it was coming? Because if it was the latter then yes, we're doing our job.

If it was the former then good guess. I want this to become relevant after the training week. He'll bring it up during training that he needs time to himself / time for studying things other than the Juken. This, this will allow us to move into more areas and explore Konoha, the academy / the library and other branches of the Ninja Arts. (Fucking funny, I called it branches instead of avenues because Konoha and tree related)
Good thing he is the Gamer then.

But really, I'd nerf the scale of some of the most outrageous people out there, like Pain, if I were you. Making the cast (and really, entire setting) utterly irrelevant isn't healthy for a story.
I don't like the idea of nerfing characters because they'll make the story difficult or cause problems later on down the line but I can honestly see where you're coming from. I would like to handle the characters in such a way that they remain at their 'strength', but come across in unique ways you know? I mean, It just feels wrong to make a character less powerful without a solid reason.

Actually, that's maybe something we could work on @Golum936. But really @TotallyNotEvil, we'll see what direction this story heads. We've actually got something like 4 - 6 different routes planned for the story once we finish the academy. I'm morbidly curious as to which one we'll take.

Some might make it relevant, some will make it irrelevant. I was just pointing out in my previous post that hes aware of where he stands in the Naruto-verse.

-Snip, Cause post to long for quote-
I'll just say on this front that I never understood the appellation that is 'Mary Sue', 'Gary Stu' or what have you. I never did get it, I simply don't think of it at all. I'm of the mind that characters should be human and thus flawed. Unless you know, they are specifically not human and not flawed. But in the eyes of us flawed beings, creatures who are without flawed are just as flawed because they don't have inadequacies. Wow, that's a lot of flaws, pfft.

You don't need to worry about people calling our character a 'Mary Sue', because it just doesn't bother me, it might Golum but I actually cant care about people who cry foul when a character does something awesome as 'sue'ish you know? I mean, I'm just sitting here going, "That was fucking awesome, why doesn't he do that more often?"

Honestly, the biggest turn off for me about 'Sue' characters is that I can't relate to them. I'm a very down to earth person, I try to be realistic when I can with myself, truthful even. I can't relate to 'sue' characters cause' I simply can't see myself acting the way they do.

I would like to handle the characters in such a way that I can take a 'sue' character, and make you think it's entirely acceptable and expected of our characters! I would like to reach a point where I can take a perfect character, keep all their motivations and choices, powers and competence intact and have you think of them as 'just' a competent character.

Just my thoughts on the matter, now back to tha' story! Mwaha!

Again, a super HUGE thank you to everyone who's contributed to the thread!
 
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A little of both. You had made it clear that the Hyuuga/Uchiha rivalry was something of a sensitive spot for the Hyuuga Council, so it wasn't a massive leap to start looking for ways Hiroshi could exploit it. And when Obito showed up...

Just my thoughts on the matter, now back to tha' story!

Regards Mary Sues, I'd say that the fundamental difference between "overpowered" and "Sue" isn't how much juice the protagonist has, it's how the rest of the universe reacts to his actions.

The classic example is that, if a Mary Sue tells someone they've been a naughty boy, even if that someone is a senior politician or other powerful individual, they will tearfully bow their head in shame and acknowledge their guilt. If the protagonist is normal, or merely overpowered, the person they're arguing with will tell them to go take a long walk off a short pier. (As anyone who has been in an internet debate can tell you, the latter outcome is by far the more realistic.) If you've ever wished that half the cast would stab themselves in the arm to shake off the genjutsu that's making them act like insipid morons, or in the head to remove the problem at source, it's a Mary Sue.

They're mostly a problem in the more "mainstream" fandoms (Harry Potter, I'm looking at you). Naruto has picked up a few, but this isn't one of them since most of the other characters are reacting like normal human beings: with some combination of apathy, mild jealousy, comradeship (in Kakashi's case), and/or completely justified terror when Hiroshi gets that grin on his face.

Actually, Naruto fics more commonly have the inverse trope: protagonists for whom almost everyone else holds an irrational hatred.
 
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A little of both. You had made it clear that the Hyuuga/Uchiha rivalry was something of a sensitive spot for the Hyuuga Council, so it wasn't a massive leap to start looking for ways Hiroshi could exploit it. And when Obito showed up...



Regards Mary Sues, I'd say that the fundamental difference between "overpowered" and "Sue" isn't how much juice the protagonist has, it's how the rest of the universe reacts to his actions.

The classic example is that, if a Mary Sue tells someone they've been a naughty boy, even if that someone is a senior politician or other powerful individual, they will tearfully bow their head in shame and acknowledge their guilt. If the protagonist is normal, or merely overpowered, the person they're arguing with will tell them to go take a long walk off a short pier. (As anyone who has been in an internet debate can tell you, the latter outcome is by far the more realistic.) If you've ever wished that half the cast would stab themselves in the arm to shake off the genjutsu that's making them act like insipid morons, or in the head to remove the problem at source, it's a Mary Sue.

They're mostly a problem in the more "mainstream" fandoms (Harry Potter, I'm looking at you). Naruto has picked up a few, but this isn't one of them since most of the other characters are reacting like normal human beings: with some combination of apathy, mild jealousy, comradeship (in Kakashi's case), and/or completely justified terror when Hiroshi gets that grin on his face.

Actually, Naruto fics more commonly have the inverse trope: protagonists for whom almost everyone else holds an irrational hatred.

.... You've actually managed to put words to what I was tying to convey earlier, with This;
The classic example is that, if a Mary Sue tells someone they've been a naughty boy, even if that someone is a senior politician or other powerful individual, they will tearfully bow their head in shame and acknowledge their guilt. If the protagonist is normal, or merely overpowered, the person they're arguing with will tell them to go take a long walk off a short pier. (As anyone who has been in an internet debate can tell you, the latter outcome is by far the more realistic.) If you've ever wished that half the cast would stab themselves in the arm to shake off the genjutsu that's making them act like insipid morons, or in the head to remove the problem at source, it's a Mary Sue.
This this right is my thoughts on the matter taken from my mind and given form by someone else! Thank you.

But yes, I don't care how strong characters are as long as the cast are human. If one of my characters are human and you still decry them as a Sue, I've not done my job right. Characters are almost more about interaction with other characters than their own skill sets. I don't remember the quotes but I do remember the gist of it. Characters are like 90% Reaction and 10% action or something.

Anyway, enough about all that. ^.^, Thank you for putting that to words for me! Off to the story we go, again. Yay.

Also, before this rail turns into the new main rail. Lets swap back to the story topic. :p
 
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Chapter 8
Chapter 8

I spent a few more minutes happily dangling from Kakashi and Obito before I got off them.

A sigh split the considerably less tense atmosphere of the small clearing. My sigh. As much as I wanted to play it all up and have a ball doing so, I honestly need to set some direction for our rag tag group or we would splinter within the day.

We wouldn't operate as a group well enough to do a combined search for food, but we each had our own individual skills, I had my Byakugan, Kakashi had his nose… or he might. I was unaware as to whether he had his canine enhancements this early on and Obito, well I refused to believe that he was useless.

As much as I would tease him over it, he had his uses too. Nobody passed the ninja academy without being competent in at least something.

And he did mention being out here before, so I supposed he knew his way around the forest. Plan decided then.

A clap of my hands broke the two from their commiserating looks and brought their attention squarely onto me. "Alright, I've got it. We have no food, but we have water and shelter."

A shake of my head lets them know what I think of this situation, "Let's go over what we need to get done before sunset, otherwise we're doomed. I wasn't kidding earlier when I said running from packs of killer mosquitoes, I saw a husk of a dog earlier. Completely drained of blood!"

I figure it better to not mention that I saw a corpse, they were on edge enough already without me reinforcing that this challenge is deadly. Not that it really was, I imagine that the chunins tasked with watching us would lose their hides should any student die.

I rolled my shoulders and decided to get on with it. A few swift strikes with my hand and I had successfully removed a decent sized tuft of grass. I grabbed a branch from the tree next to us, and started drawing in the clearing I'd made. Three X's denoting us, and a small triangle for the cave. I drew two meandering lines next to each other to simulate the river. A crude but workable approximation of the area... basically it was a shitty map.

"Right, I don't know if I've thought of it all, but I'll need some input, Kakashi, Obito." I used the stick to point at the three X's I'd drawn. "This is us," I point to the triangle, "This is the cave, and this," I point to the lines, "Is the river. I have no idea what orientation this is set as so let's just work with it."

The crunch of grass was followed quietly by Kakashi and Obito coming closer, Obito practically collapsing down next to my impromptu clearing, and Kakashi slouching against a nearby tree. I guess Obito was still out of it, what with his coming 'this' close to losing his bait and tackle. I mentally slapped myself, better get on with it.

"Right, I've never been out into the forests, the clan likes to keep a strict eye on me, but I've learned what I can. Either of you feel free to add in with anything you think we'll need."

A few strikes later and I had another tuft of grass removed and more flat ground to work with, I wrote food at the top, underlining it twice, "We're going to need food or we'll starve. I do know that we can use upwards of three times as much energy out here without proper preparation, so food. We're going to need it soon or we'll start getting grumpy and growly with each other. The last thing we need is me eating you two for dinner, I'd gain so much weight my slim waist can't handle that." I made sure to finish that statement with a creepy cackle. Obito did his awkward laugh and Kakashi deadpanned at me. Those two think I won't do it, we'll see if that's true when we find no food.

Protection was inscribed into the dirt next, "When I got the bag for being the first out of the academy, Jibei said that it was accepted to attack your fellow testees and that it was a valid option. Meaning, that essentially the entire forest is out to make us fail."

Points of Interest joined Protection and Food on the dirt, "We need to know what's around us in the immediate sense, are we next to an animal nest or hive? Anything dangerous or attention grabbing?"

Obito opened his mouth here actually, looking mildly surprised, "No, no we're not actually. This place is kinda towards the back of this section of forestation. I mentioned earlier that I'd come here before right? This place is pretty well hidden, that river there. "He pointed towards my previous diagram which housed the crude depiction of our location, he held his hand out to me for the stick. I surrendered it with no complaint.

He explained as he drew more lines connecting to my river, he was obvious less dexterous with the stick than I was as his drawings were short, choppy and badly indented compared to mine, but still easily visible and distinct, "The stream actually spirals around once it goes past the cave, so really we only have two directions to look out for. This way, and this way."

He punctuated his statements by drawing arrows facing the two directions that were 'vulnerable'. The river now kinda looked like an upside down L covering the back and left side of the cave. "As for points of interest, I haven't really scouted this area before, but I do know that there's a natural spring over here," he drew a square behind the cave and over the river, or stream as he called it.

"And there's this absolutely huge tree I remember seeing once, over here." Another mark joined the dirt map, his time to the right of the cave and down. This one was a circle.

"Goes without saying however, that the rest of this area is forestland." This was denoted by a heap of squiggles appearing over the clear areas of the map. "This is the only real clearing in at least three hundred odd meters, the rest that could even be called clearings are full of junk, fallen down trees and shrubs, the usual."

He paused here, a suspiciously long pause, he was probably debating on whether or not to mention something, a terrible habit for shinobi to have actually, his lies and deceptions should be fluid not… this. "Yeah, I suppose there's another thing too, I'm not sure how relevant it'll be but there's a logging camp super far into the forest area. Like, super far. We won't find it unless we spend like two or three days heading that way."

I nab the stick when he points it into the air with his hands while he's accentuating his point, we get it Obito, its super far away. Sheesh, who even says super I mean really.

"Right, thank you for that, it really helps." I begin, quickly producing a piece of paper from my sleeves, again through my inventory. God-damn it was useful. My pencil scribbles out in astonishing speed, creating what is more than likely an even cruder version of what's on the ground. I smear what's on the ground with my foot when I'm done.

I do not miss the confused looks on their faces when they look at my sleeve and then back to the pencil I have in my hand, suckers.

"Right, that leaves food, we're in desperate need of it. We're better off than anyone else, Kakashi and I got one of the 'first three' bags each, so we have six of those condensed meals between the three of us. That should, if we seriously stretch it last us three days." Obito and I shivered in silence, Kakashi looked as though there was nothing wrong with it. Thank you, but no thank you. I'd avoid eating slightly moist shit if I could avoid it.

"Water from the stream should be fresh, we can boil it if we want to be on the safe side but yeah, summing it all up we're in a decent position, but in dire need of real food. You two agree?" I got an agreeable grunt from Kakashi and a drawn out Ayuup' from Obito.

"How do we wanna go about getting food then guys? We can split up and do it, reconvene here in thirty minutes, an hour?" Two nods followed the statement, "Alternatively, we could go out in search for food as a group, that way we can all keep an eye on each other and bicker together!"

Two hasty head shakes followed, I have no idea why.

Plans were set in motion with the common goal that we meet back at the cave in forty five minutes. Kakashi left first, following his nose. Obito second after he went back to the cave and used a compass to determine directions, and me well. I just followed my eyes.

Quest Acquired! said:
Gathering Food

You and your companions have agreed to go searching for food, follow your nose little one, and bring food back to the den.

Food Items Acquired [0/25]

Reward for Completion;

250 Experience.

75 Ryo.

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I sighed again, staring at the flower sitting innocently before me. It looked kinda like a daisy, only on drugs. I stared at it some more, honestly, I was done with this goddamn adventure. Done, had my fill. Mom, I want to go home now.

I stared some more as a spider crawled from one of the many putrid pustules that covered is stalk, reflexively observing it as I'd swiftly gotten into the habit of doing. [Observe]'s level had taken a sharp rise during my stay in the forest from sheer necessity.

It might not tell me much, but it did tell me if the plant was poisonous. Which was a godsend honestly. Who knew that the prettiest of flowers could be a mild sedative? Not me, I would've happily grabbed it as a keepsake and ended up asleep on the ground less than ten minutes later.

But back to the spider, it had a health bar when I'd observed it. Heh, that reminded me, I can now say officially that 'My spiders have health bars!' And in the same breath say that I don't live in Australia. Neat.

I actually shook my head then, I was getting off track.

Another scan with my Byakugan revealed no worthwhile food source in my local area. Sure there were birds and grubs, but I didn't fancy eating them if I didn't have to. I doubted I could even catch the birds honestly. Even if I could, I'd probably spend more energy trying to get them, but it did raise a question. Did I even need to eat anymore?

The river, and I refused to call it a stream after I had seen it firsthand cut through the forest like a knife roughly thirty meters to my left, so fishing or foraging near the water wasn't an option.

I didn't actually know what I wanted to do currently, I had a bunch of foraged flora in my inventory already. Enough to feed our group for at least a day, but I had little to no doubt that they would want to eat only it. I'd found a variety of berries and nuts too, harsh scrutiny with my Byakugan and Observe proved really useful here.

My feet landed on a hollowed log giving me a decent view of the river. If I had to guess, I'd say it was close to thirty, even fifty meters across at its shallowest and widest respectively.

Obito had called this a stream. I think he might be more insane than me. Not to mention, a good idea to come here in the first place as I spotted a decently sized infant Onbaa. I turned on a dime and jumped back into the forest. Nope.

I did not want to deal with the shit that would inevitably followed had I killed it for food. Obito didn't mention it, so I figure either he deliberately didn't mention, or it's a recent addition to the forests ecosystem.

Lovely, just lovely.

This time I did sigh as my feet took me on a meandering path back to the cave. It was about time we regrouped anyway. Unfortunately. Because my directional skills sucked I'd been forced to stay within viewing distance of the cave at all times, else I'd get lost.

I started mumbling on my way back, I didn't mind the ambiance of the forest but I wanted something more known than it so I started humming and mumbling a song I'd listened to in my previous life.

"For eight hundred years we fought you without fear, and we'll fight you for eight hundred more."

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On the way back, paid special attention to grabbing enough detritus to cover the cave entrance. I didn't want any water getting in should it rain. I know I'd said that food was top priority, but I'd realized on the way back that the amount of food I'd grabbed was enough. The cave, and actual survival would be top priority now.

I arrived back earlier than the other two so I went about covering the cave and storing my catch. The flora was wrapped in a huge leaf, the closest comparison I could think of would be a Banana leaf.

That was bundled up and stuffed in a corner, not that the cave really had a corner. The rest was dumped on the floor as I started stitching together a curtain to hang over the cave entrance with twine and leaves.

Honestly, they make it look so much easier on T.V, but when it's your hide on the line and you've had to go and personally gather all the materials, well. It's considerably more difficulty, not even difficult actually just time consuming, but if time was a valued commodity well. You're screwed.

I was kinda glad when Obito arrived at the cave a few minutes later. His arrival heralded the end to my isolation in the cave and the halfway point of the curtain.

As he popped his head in, he saw me with what I was making and did a double take. I don't think it computed in his head actually, me sitting down on the cave floor stitching together something that could honestly double over as a blanket. I imagine that it wouldn't compute with most of Konoha's population.

The Hyuga had a very 'serious' public attitude, and I had no doubt that should my actions here make it back to the Hyuga I would probably be given extra lessons in decorum and public appearance. Urgh.

Obito had pulled his head from his thinking place and joined me in the cave, and I got to see what he had brought back.

More than me, and I was using my inventory to cheat. That's really impressive. He had actually fashioned himself a few carry packages too, using the same leaf that I was using. He was being silent, which didn't really mesh with what I knew of him, I decided to break the ice. "You got more than me, that's for sure. What did you actually bring back though?"

He seemed startled that I was speaking actually, had I really been that bad? Or was he just surprised that I was taking my own initiative in communicating with him?

"Whua? Oh, right. Err yeah, I actually got a decent amount, less that I was expecting however. There was no game around to hunt down so I didn't find us anything in the way of meat." He actually seemed upset at that, I wonder why.

"My previous stashes had been cleaned out too. I told you guys I'd been here before yeah? Well, I'd made a few stashes around in case I had to come back out here eventually, and they had been cleaned out!" Oh, that would explain why I suppose.

He was actually starting to rant about it… This was different from what I knew of him, but really I suppose what did I know about the characters of the Naruto world? I knew their drawn counterparts that lived on paper, the versions of them that were brought to life with ink and paper.

I suppose this was a very good reason to not assume I knew things, I would need to double and even triple check my information I guess. Annoying, I couldn't trust my prescient knowledge then… or was this a butterfly? Had his few interactions with me caused this?

"Ahem, err Obito. I know you're upset about your stashes being cleared out, but that doesn't help us here and now. What did you bring back?" Best to get him back on track I suppose. We can all vent later on around some fire I suppose. He paused at my interruption before his cheeks colored slightly. I put another leaf onto the curtain and stitched it.

"Right, I grabbed a bunch of the edible plants, they should tide us over. I also got us a heap of berries, more for variety and flavor than anything. No matter how hungry you are, eating the same thing, no matter how nutritious will turn you off it." Smart, and I could agree with the sentiment in their cases. I could eat anything forever and be okay. Gamer's mind and Body were bullshit.

Obito's hand searched around his waist for a few seconds before pulling a leafy bag from it, "Here, I got us a heap of nuts too. More variety and these and so delicious!" Heh, a bag of nuts. I could go somewhere with that, but I won't. Get your mind out of the gutter.

He tossed it to me, and with the nonexistent hand that wasn't bracing the curtain or stitching I caught it.

Please note, Nonexistent. The bag of nuts slapped me in the face.

As it slid down my face, I sent Obito a glare that would have frozen Lava.

By the way he had frozen, it seemed he realized his mistake. I would get him back for this, in my own subtle way. I stared at him as my hands continued working on the curtain. I Stared and Stared.

And Stared……………………….

Kakashi arrived five minutes later. Obito wasted literally no time in jumping behind him to escape my stare. I'd greatly enjoyed watching him devolve into a twitching wreck during those five minutes. Kakashi just stood there, confused and inexplicably mortified.

Well he was when I opened my mouth, "He threw his nuts at my face." Ohh yeah, the mortification is there now.

I held up the little sack of assorted nuts, "See right here."

Obito popped his head back into view from his hiding place behind Kakashi, "No I didn't!"

Stare

"Eeep!" And he was back behind Kakashi again. Did he just eep?

"You're both nuts." Ohh, Kakashi has joined the fight!

"Well, that's pretty much my life in a nutshell." *Slap* Did Kakashi just face palm?

"God save me from punny Hyuuga's."

I turned my eyes from where Obito had been to Kakashi again, and he seemed to be in the middle of questioning all his life choices. I didn't particularly blame him either.

I finished the last stitch and a blue window popped up. I wasn't sure if I was happy about it or not.

Skill Acquired! said:
Crafting

The act of creating items from anything lying around. Humanity advanced its position on earth through ingenuity and inventions, you too can do the same. Any item you craft will be stored as a blueprint so you can make it instantly later should you have the materials on hand.

Crafted Items are 25% more effective.

Crafted Items gain 75% more durability.

Crafted Items gain +1 Activation.
Crafting quality is increased by 50%

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A multitude of small and insignificant snaps followed my passing throughout the forest, it was dusk currently, verging on night. The shadows themselves seemed to roil as I fluidly tore through this area, my arms nearly invisible as I grabbed the tinder we would need for a stealth fire.

Another slightly louder snap followed as I broke a twig that was a little on the thick side. Kakashi and Obito were back at the cave hashing out how to hang the curtain and debating on whether or not we would need a fire.

Kakashi was of the opinion that no, we didn't need a fire and Obito was staunchly opposite arguing that it would be necessary to keep us warm, give us light and to cook the food he'd gathered. Kakashi had retorted that the smoke would harm us just as much if not more than the arguable benefits we would gain from lighting the fire. Obito was arguing with a glass half full, Kakashi was arguing for a glass half empty.

I was of the opinion that regardless of which side won the argument, having it would be good.

Specifically, I was actually gathering small sticks, small and really dry twigs even. I remember a method for making a smokeless fire, a stealth fire. It should be known here, I mean there are professional ninja in this world, there's absolutely no way they wouldn't have figured out how to make fires smokeless.

*Snap* Last one! Wohoo! Well, not according to my quest that is.

A Gathering We Go!

You have successfully gathered enough firewood to last the night

Quality Twigs Acquired [783/500]

Rewards;

300 Experience.

200 Ryo.

And that was the last one. I think I had roughly seven kilograms of twigs, I may have gone slightly overboard. There was enough here to last us most of the night honestly. Well, the 'coolest' part of the night anyway. The nights here were stifling most of the time.

I started making my way back to the cave. Careful to avoid leaving telltale markers of my passing, leaves and sticks on the ground. Dead giveaways if the follower knew anything about what they're doing.

"I get it, you want the fire, but we're going to give away our position with it, the benefits do not outweigh the cost." That was Kakashi, by the sound of his voice.

"How the hell are we supposed to see then jackass? I don't care if you can see in the dark because I can't. Not to mention that the cave's gonna be even darker thanks to the damn curtain Hyuga made for us!" Obito I deduced, well time to make the most important opinion known then, mine.

"Who're you calling a jackass, you, you…. You crybaby!" I'm mildly ashamed, was that the best Kakashi could come up with? I suppose I better butt in before the devolved into a shit slinging contest. Or a name calling match, not much difference really.

A squawk preceded anything Obito was going to say, so I cut in here.

"Maah maah maah, I'm Hyuga now am I Obi~~to? Or should I just call you Uchiha then?" I continued trudging into the clearing, making my voice carry to them and no further. They both startled at my voice, Kakashi's head turning on a dime my way while Obito looked as though someone had poured cold water over him.

"Now then, before the two of you end up in a name-calling contest, Kakashi, would you be against a fire if it made little or no smoke? Obito, I'm aware we didn't need the curtain, but it'll help keep the cave cooler during the day and hide it. That won't help if you guys keep making such a damn racket though."

I could see the denial mounting in Obito's stance, and the surprised but cautious acceptance and frustration mounting it Kakashi's. I guess they didn't have a medium they could communicate in actually, not really. Words worked, but I've been noticing that Kakashi is easier to reach with action and body language over just the spoken word.

Obito was on the other end of the spectrum entirely, though he spoke and received through actual speech and discussion instead of body language and speech.

This reading didn't exclude them from the other avenues of communication obviously, not to mention that it was my own personal belief too. Urgh, I'd gotten off track again. My feet hadn't however, they had carried me into the cave my sticks trailing me in the leaf over my shoulder.

I heard the leafy curtain rustle twice more in quick succession as Obito and Kakashi joined me.

It had been quite easy to divvy up what I'd brought back while I was walking back, absolute smallest and driest there, slightly bigger but still dry here, on and on. Once they were all divided, I pulled some of the kindling I'd found from my 'bag' to set below my Taj Mahal of stick placements.

Now, "Either of you guys know that Fire technique to light fires stealthily?"

Because I didn't wasn't said, or implied. I had to accept all of my deficiencies and ask for help, or train to overcome them.

It just so happened however, that Obito knew it, oddly enough. Obito, and not Kakashi whom I would've thought to know it. I suppose Obito was turning out to be the camping buff… wait.

Obito was an Uchiha, and the Uchiha as a general principle were Pyromaniacs. Emphasis on the capital P. Actually, with that new knowledge, him knowing the technique seems a lot more expected and normal now.

Ah, while I'd gone off on a tangent, Obito had lit the kindling. Twigs were fed to the fire with extreme care and as Kakashi opened his mouth to complain about the smoke that was wafting from it, the smoke died. Changed from a wisp to nothing. He closed his mouth as soon as the smoke puttered out.

"Well, that'll tide us over for the night I suppose? I'll stay half-awake to serve as night-watch and fire stoker, you guys get your beauty sleep. I don't need any."

With that being said, I pulled a few leafs from behind me, set them out in a weave and sat down. It would be a long night.

Especially if Obito or Kakashi snore.

With that, the first day of the test drew to a close.

Hopefully, tomorrow would be less hectic.
 
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Lol. Seemed like they all had a bro moment, with deez nuts.

We've been stuck in the forest longer than I'd like though. Hope you accelerate things in the next chapter.
 
Lol. Seemed like they all had a bro moment, with deez nuts.

We've been stuck in the forest longer than I'd like though. Hope you accelerate things in the next chapter.
Yeah :/ That's my fault actually, my style of writing I suppose is more slow paced and elongated than anything I guess. Golum brought it up to me earlier too when he was looking the chapter over, that we really needed to speed it up, so that's whats happening next chapter. The chapter that's coming will cover the rest of the forest exam, just so you know. From there, we'll move into the academy year, which shouldn't take long at all actually.

I'm not gonna give you a chapter estimate on it because last time we gave a chaster estimate we fucked it all up! I.E The forest arc was meant to take like 2 - 3 chapters, top. The academy likewise was meant to take like 3 - 7 chapters tops. I dragged it out with my inclusion of the entrance test.

But yeah, as I've said we'll be moving along with the story, that's for sure. Apart from that, Since @Golum936 seems to have missed it or forgotten it.

In time honored tradition, which would everyone here prefer?

More Chapters, Less Words? (More Frequent Updates, Less Words)

More Words, Less Chapters? (Less Frequent Updates, More Words)

Well he was when I opened my mouth, "He threw his nuts at my face."Ohh yeah, the mortification is there now.
You broke it, you fix it damn it! :p
 
I spotted a decently sized infant Onbaa

You taught me something i didn't know about Naruto!
Wtf though, there's picture from that thing and Naruto everywhere. I'm sure people ship this!

@TheUninspired Concerning the lenght/frequence of update > I prefer frequent update (even if it means less words) for a simple reason, it keeps the thread lively.
 
Hey everyone, a quick update.

I'm still adjusting to my new work load and schedule but I feel like I almost got a hang of things. Starting next week me and @The Uninspired should be able to drop 2 chapters a week. So please look forward to that.
 
I have to wonder, what would happen if another Hyuuga used the Byakugan to try to see where she's holding all the crap in her sleeves and sees nothing?

Hehehe, nuts.
 
I have to wonder, what would happen if another Hyuuga used the Byakugan to try to see where she's holding all the crap in her sleeves and sees nothing?

Hehehe, nuts.
Yeah, if it was a lady Hyuuga, I'm sure all this being buddy-buddy with the boys would be a bit more awkward. :p

Though I'd probably like it more if it was, but that's just me.
 
Yeah, if it was a lady Hyuuga, I'm sure all this being buddy-buddy with the boys would be a bit more awkward. :p

Though I'd probably like it more if it was, but that's just me.
True, but that way lays *GASP* Pairings!

To be completely, utterly and brutally honest? I suck at writing any form of romance at all. Just' sayin'. :D No, I ain't supersayin'

As for the update schedule, well I'd like to have what @Golum936's suggested as far as updates go. It's definitely possible provided life, school and work don't bog either of us down too much.

[Edit] Fucking spelling errors
 
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