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One seal spent and one remained, a masterless servant lingers on, and the butterfly's wings beat to life a new storm of Fate.
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Chapter 1: Endings and Beginnings

Spectral Waltz

Scatterbrained Writer
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Walking the Endless Corridors
Even with the gaping hole in the floor, Fuyuki theatre seemed oddly peaceful in the light radiating from the grail. A warm and golden glow that sank into the dark wood and conjured warmth from the black cushioning. Complimented the crimson curtains with it's tones and brought the brass and bronze of the fixtures forth as highlights to the whole ensemble.

Even through the motes of dust floating in the air and the glowing portals marring the display with their ugly swirls of white gold energy... In any other place they would have been mesmerizingly beautiful all of their own accord, but here and now before the light of the holy grail they seemed out of place, blotches upon an otherwise unsullied cloth.

"Now, give me your response."

That voice too... Even the arrogant Archer could look striking in the glow of the chalice behind him, yet that tone – sureness of superiority dripping from each and every word – shattered whatever beauty he might have possessed even in that light.

"I refuse! I'd never-" She hadn't even seen it move but suddenly an axe was there, sinking through the steel of her fauld and biting into her thigh, cutting her denial off with a cry of pain.

"Are you too embarrassed to accept? That's fine."

Arturia glared down at the archer, her teeth gritted. So close, she was so close!

"You may give the wrong answer as many times as you like."

She just needed a chance, one chance.

"In order to learn the joy of serving me."

She was only half listening, her tactician's mind plotting moves, envisioning a thousand scenarios, searching for the one that would bring success. That would bring her to the grail, and end this once and for all.

"You must first learn pain..."

Green eyes widened, her attention coming back to her opponent before they narrowed. She grit her teeth. She couldn't dodge without a head start, and with a sword still in her leg she would never get that-.

Movement.

On the other side of the hall, a figure stepped from the shadows, raising one hand marked with an emblem of a crimson cross. Emiya's command seal. "Kiritsugu..."

This was it, her chance. He would order her to grasp the grail, and her failing physical form would cease to matter. She would have it at last. The chalice, the holy cup, her one wish.

The seals shone red and she pulled the blade out of her leg, ignoring the pain as she hauled herself to her feet. "So you've finally made your decision" Archer drawled, but she looked past him, looked into her Master's eyes.

"By the name of Emiya Kiritsugu, I order you with my command spell."

His voice was focused. Low, yet growing stronger as her heart leapt. Give me the Holy Grail! A single order, that was all it would take to bring her to the cup. To break through-!

"Saber, Use your Noble Phantasm to destroy the Grail."

What?!

She could barely put the shocked exclamation into words before Excalibur flared bright golden white in her hands, washing out the gentle warmth of the Grail's glow. "Impossible... What are you doing Saber!" She could hear Archer shouting yet it was as though from underwater or far away as the command gripped her, shunting everything else to the back of her mind, catching her off guard as she felt her mana rise and surge. Her arms moved automatically even as she threw her everything into denying the compulsion, mind racing. "Why Kiritsugu!? You of all people-!" Her arms trembled, muscles fighting their own motions every step of the way as she raised the blade high. He raised his hand again, third and final command seal glowing in preparation for use, but it was not necessary.

"NO!"

She screamed, railing in futility against the command, scrabbling to hold back, to turn the blow, to reject the order, yet the Seal's authority was absolute. The will behind it ironclad.

The sword came down, and the golden light surged. It was weaker than it could have been, and it wavered at the edges, destructive power crackling outwards, turning the single beam of focused annihilation into a wave. Yet it was enough for the task at hand.

Tears slid down her cheeks as Arturia watched in horror. How could I have understood him if three Command Seals were all that existed between us?

I couldn't even comprehend the hearts of those who served by my side...


The stage shook, Kiritsugu screamed in pain, but through it all, Arturia heard only the ringing chime of the Grail shattering under the blow.

Perhaps this is all a punishment for the king that could not understand others...

Then the shockwave picked her up like a windblown leaf and hurled her backwards as the sun rose early in downtown Fuyuki city...

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Arturia opened her eyes...

She could feel it immediately. The contract was gone, yet she remained. The Dragon's heart inside her already beginning the slow task of replenishing her massively depleted mana reserves, but he never used the third seal... How-?

"Saber!"

The air was thick with smoke and dust and the stench of some form of decay as she looked up into the face of Kiritsugu Emiya. Harried and broken, with an emptiness she hadn't seen before in his eyes.

His right arm was a charred stump, caught by the edge of Excalibur's destructive force. The command seals obliterated by edge of the same blow that had shattered her hope for redemption.

"You... How are you..." His voice cracked, his eyes empty as he stared down at her, seeming to barely comprehend what he was seeing.

"You did this..." Her normally clear and bright voice came out as a low hiss as fury crept up. Excalibur was there by her hand and she ignored him as she scooped it up and pulled herself to her feet, menace clear in her eyes.

"I thought... The Seals... The Noble Phantasm..."

This man... This man had denied her everything. The chance to make everything right, to rewrite her legend, to give her bygone kingdom the ruler it had deserved.

The chance to right her every wrong and erase her misbegotten tale from history's pages once and for all.

And he had taken it from her.

"You BASTARD!"

The words tore themselves from her throat in a ragged scream as she lunged, barely even thinking. She looked at this man who'd taken her wish from her, who'd taken Irisviel from her, and in that instant, Arturia Pendragon knew the breadth and depth of rage. Even wounded and near death, she was still a servant, and he was still a man. Both had been exhausted by their respective battles.

Blood shimmered in mid-air as she drove the still-hidden sword through his stomach.

"S... Saber..."

She pulled back and stabbed again, higher, transfixing the heart on the blade, feeling the hilt twitch in her hands as the muscle tried to beat around the metal impaling it.

"Saber... I..." "RrraaaaAAAAHHHHH!"

Again.

"S-saber..."

Again.

"A-aahh..."

Green eyes shone with fury as she pulled the blade free. Could she not even have a moment of vengeance? How could he survive this? Wound after wound, the first enough to cripple any man, every one after enough to kill in a single blow, and yet he still stood... Swaying but alive, still trying to talk to her.

...She understood...

Kiritsugu was rallying now as she lunged again, but the sword held low was a feint, unimportant as her left hand reached for the centre of his chest. The scabbard, the stolen artefact with the power that could deny death itself, the Avalon that was forever separated from her by treachery at her kingdom's fall.

He held it within him, clinging to it's power, and yet, between the two, her original ownership was the greater call, and golden light began to gather around that outstretched palm.

As it began to materialize, Kiritsugu seemed to realize what was happening. He grabbed at her wrist, struggling to fight back, but while his speed had always been greater, he strength was nothing before her grip. The physical form of Avalon was already taking shape, and as it entered the real world she locked her fingers around it, tearing it away from him in a spray of blood-flecked gold as the sword came back around.

This time a single thrust was enough to end it.

Kiritsugu Emiya fell, his blood soaking the dust-stained carpet nearly black as it spread from his body.

Archer had vanished somewhere in the chaos. He had been near the epicentre of the explosion, and where he had stood was buried under the roiling mud that had burst forth from the Holy Grail's destruction.

A last bitter thought as she hoped he was dead.

Walking on shaky legs, Arturia, the King of Knights, stumbled out into the chaos of flame that now made up this night.

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Destruction all around... Just like before.

Screams of the dying as flames engulfed the city. Cobble or concrete, what difference did it make? This was another land burning. Another land she should never have even been responsible for. Another failure.

She wished that she could be angry, and yet after killing Emiya. After feeling the life leave him through the blade she sank into his heart, she felt... Drained...

Hollow.

Just another failure... A pointless failure. A defeat snatched from the jaws of victory.

It made her sick to her stomach.

She moved without purpose or direction, wandering the broken streets. She could feel the dragon's heart beating in her chest to generate fresh mana, and with every passing second, she considered turning it off. Letting herself drain to nothingness and fall away.

Why not? There was nothing left for her here after all was there?

She kept walking.

She debated casting away Avalon and falling upon Excalibur. It would be simple enough to dismiss her armor, to return to that hill in a more fittingly violent way to reflect her sin.

Why not? There was no reason to stay in this hell right?

She kept walking.

Here and there she saw bodies poking from the rubble. At first she reached out for them with her senses only to find them dead. Crushed or burned or impaled.

She stopped reaching out to sense the bodies.

She kept walking.

She didn't know why she stopped when she did.

It was just another body, a young boy with a shock of orange hair. Arturia had barely even noticed him despite that he lay clear of any rubble until she was almost on top of him, and then she had stopped. His eyes stared blankly up at the sky, his arms limp by his sides.

His chest shifted...

Arturia's knees gave out as realization struck her like a thunderbolt. Not a corpse, a living child. Barely breathing, lying there, so close to death, and yet... Not quite crossed over.

Not yet...

Another soul who'd lost everything then.

Another failure...

No.

Another sin...

Stop this.

Excalibur clattered to the ground, and Arturia raised it's scabbard.

You can save him...

She knew that, she knew she could, but did he really deserve a saviour such as her? A twice-failure of a king?

If not you then who else?

Avalon began to pulse with light, weak and wavering as it fell into time with the boy's heatbeat as the scabbard began resonate with him, slowly strengthening as it began to merge with him. So many deaths on Emiya's hands. On her hands, and no single life saved could possibly balance that scale.

Yet at the same time could she really turn her back on him?

The glow brightened and Avalon began to sink into the boys body but she could not simply give him the scabbard. He was too young to have been here alone. She could save his life, but then what would come next? What chance did he have with no family? With no one left? Arturia felt her eyes prick with tears again. I cannot simply leave him to his fate. His misfortune had been done by her hand, and being the only survivor she had found, he was the only one she could give back to.

Her only chance to redeem any part of this disaster she had wrought.

The breathing was coming stronger now, a little life coming back into those dull brown eyes before they closed, unconsciousness carrying him down into a healing slumber.

Arturia's armour misted off her, dissolving back into it's component mana as she brought her arms under his tiny form and lifted him up. Even brutalized and battered as she was he weighed almost nothing against Servant level strength. So small and fragile as she tucked him against her chest.

Then she turned and step-by-step began to walk once more. Her face set in a determined mask as she put one foot in front of the other, making for the edge of the destruction, the only token of atonement she could still give cradled in her arms.

=End Chapter One=

Thanks to @TheBleachDoctor for help proofreading this little slice of too many ideas and too little sleep. Watch this space for further chapters as the story goes forth!
 
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Well this is interesting.

On the one hand, Shirou won't want to become a Hero of Justice. On the other, he won't become a magus either, so won't be qualified to be a Master in 10 years.

Oh the butterflies.
 
Well this is interesting.

On the one hand, Shirou won't want to become a Hero of Justice. On the other, he won't become a magus either, so won't be qualified to be a Master in 10 years.

Oh the butterflies.

Oh he almost certainly won't join the war as the seventh master, but he still has a servant for an adoptive mother, so if you think the grail war will just pass him by...

Well...

For the moment I plan to focus chapters on how Shirou and Saber both develop differently from this, but we will get to the fifth War eventually...
 
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Well this is interesting.

On the one hand, Shirou won't want to become a Hero of Justice. On the other, he won't become a magus either, so won't be qualified to be a Master in 10 years.

Oh the butterflies.
You don't have to be a magus to be a master, as Ryuunosuke happily proved. Also, don't forget that Saber learned magic under Merlin. It may not be something she's particularly likes or is all that talented in, but she is more than capable of teaching Shirou one hell of a lot better than Kiritsugu did.
 
Nice premise, curiously I found something similar a few days ago in reddit:



Were you inspired by this? Well, either way, watched. Let's see how your story progress.
 
Nice premise, curiously I found something similar a few days ago in reddit:



Were you inspired by this? Well, either way, watched. Let's see how your story progress.


Never seen it before, which is sorta frightening really...

No actually this idea came about as an alternate take on what was initially a much more crack-fluff idea of Shirou and Rin (Because why not both?) being raised by/cared for by all of the Saberfaces. Lily as the older sister. Arturia as the Mom, Lion as the pet, etcetera etcetera.

This story will be more serious than that one would have been, and will likely stick to a 'One Saberface Limit' for it's duration.
 
Nero is most likely included, Mordred on the other hand might not be.

Jeanne is not a saberface in either case.
Jeanne was listed as a "Saberface" in Grand Order, and dialogue in Second Singularity - Septem looks to back this up: "Her (Nero's) aura... it's like Jeanne's..." -Mash Kyrielight
I'd rather say "none of Arthur's direct relations or alternates" in this case.
 
What, you don't think Arturia can be responsible? :p
To be fair, Taiga seems the type that become competent when there's no alternative present. And Arturia... she was King. Warlord.

She has practically no experience, or knowledge how to be a mother. Her closest mother analogue is Guinnevere, and we know what happened the last time.

...Okay, maybe Irisviel, but let's face it, as nice as she is, she got lots of help from Kiritsugu and her own maid.
 
To be fair, Taiga seems the type that become competent when there's no alternative present. And Arturia... she was King. Warlord.

She has practically no experience, or knowledge how to be a mother. Her closest mother analogue is Guinnevere, and we know what happened the last time.

...Okay, maybe Irisviel, but let's face it, as nice as she is, she got lots of help from Kiritsugu and her own maid.

True, she has no experience being a mother, but on the other hand, Arturia is a very competent person in general, not to mention she has heroic levels of determination.

She'll almost certainly fuck up along the way (and just let me say that in writing the second chapter right now her combination of 'must do right by this burden' and 'how do I modernity' is incredibly fun to write) but ultimately I don't think she'll do that badly.

Fujimura will help though.
 
Chapter 2: Snow and Tiger
A sheaf of papers in neatly typed Japanese rested on the table one delicate finger tracing the printed image of the seal next to the signature decorating the bottom of the missive. Outside a light snow fell, slowly burying the grass and gardens in soft white.

After his betrayal, Arturia wouldn't have expected that she could feel any gratitude for Kiritsugu. However, his establishment of her identity in Japan so that she could serve as Irisviel's driver in the early days of the war had proven an unexpected boon when it came to beginning the odd task of establishing a long term identity in this world. She had first returned to the Emiya estate only out of a lack of alternatives. She had no money for an inn and, while she could have endured the elements by sustaining herself on mana alone, her small charge had no such protections. Shelter and food had been necessary acquisitions, and that was the only place she knew she could easily obtain them.

However, from there things had only begun to grow more complicated, and what Arturia had intended as only a temporary lodging – somewhere to stay long enough for the boy to recover – morphed into something more permanent as the days and then weeks began to slide by. She had thought at first to raise the young man herself, to tutor him as Merlin had tutored her, yet that plan was toppled almost immediately as it became apparent that while the Emiya estate had been well provisioned and – after some searching – had a startling amount of currency tucked away in a few places. Its resources were depressingly finite.

In short, she would need a job, meaning she would not have time to tutor Shirou fully and in turn that she needed to find him a school. She would have been more comfortable with a private tutor, but had to admit to herself that such a thing was beyond her means at the moment.

Registering Shirou for classes had been something of an adventure of its own as his original school had been destroyed in the fire, presenting her with the first problem. She could not very well register him without status as his legal guardian. Had she thought of this particular detail beforehand, she might have come up with a better solution but as it was she was forced to think quickly.

Taking Emiya's name after his betrayal – especially since it would not only be the young Shirou taking it but also herself – was out of the question, so her mind had leapt to the next she could think of, and thus Shirou Einzbern was enrolled in Fuyuki Elementary school, making her his stepmother Arturia Einzbern.

It was strange to think of, yet it felt like something of a tribute to the woman she had cared for, and so she pushed away her regrets.

While the process proved to hold less surprises finding work was difficult in its own way. However the visa Emiya had acquired to cover her service of Irisviel proved it's worth here. Once she managed to gain an interview it was surprisingly easy to convince the older man sitting across from her to grant her the job. It was hardly glorious. A simple routine of handling a 'customer service desk' at a clothing store. If anything it was oddly familiar to the former king, not unlike holding court with her nobles at all really. Dealing with dozens of people, all of whom thought they deserved her time and who asked that she make exception to the regulations just for them?

She had found herself chuckling at the irony more than once…

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A series of thumps in the entranceway broke her out of reminiscence and brought her back to the present, the suddenness causing her hands to clench reflexively, calling for sword and armor before she remembered where she was. "Arturiaaa I'm home!" "'Ria-senpai!" Shirou was the first through the door, still in a damp and snow-dusted coat as he pelted across the living room and all but hurdled the table to hug her side. He'd recovered quickly, Avalon's powers strengthened by her own presence healing him until it was impossible to guess that a mere seven months ago he'd been on the brink of death, and while he'd been quiet at first, their everyday life had seen him slowly opening up to her.

Of course, she hadn't done it alone, following behind Shirou with no less speed but crucially lacking the winter coat came Fujimura Taiga. They'd first met early on when Arturia had been walking Shirou home. Fuyuki's Middle and Elementary schools were fairly close together and she seemed to be heading in the same direction as them day after day. At first they simply walked within distance of each other until finally the teenager had actually walked right up to her and asked what sort of relationship they had.

It was the first time Arturia could remember laughing without restraint in months as she watched Taiga's expression go from wary accusation to utter confusion at the explanation. Apparently she had been expecting a step-sister rather than a step-mother, and a single one at that. You're taking care of him alone?!

...Is that a problem?

What? Of course it's a problem! A single mother taking care of such a cute son! I know that type, neglecting him to work? Or to go chase after men? You must be setting a terrible example!

Are you mad?

Seething!


Arturia might have gone right back to laughing if she hadn't been so irked by the young woman's nerve.

Believe what you will. I don't know you, and I don't appreciate unfounded criticism. Please stay away from us in the future.

That should be
my line you suspicious foreign lady!

It probably would have ended their association then and there had a challenge not followed. Had Taiga been an adult at the time Arturia would have seriously considered challenging her for that insult. As it turned out however, Taiga had the same idea, only coupled with significantly less restraint.

A Kendo match! I challenge you to a duel!

While she had doubted that Taiga could really follow through on her proposed stakes of adopting Shirou in Arturia's place, the outcome was never in doubt from the start. She may have been a Kendo expert for her age but Taiga was still just a fourteen year old girl going up against a master swordswoman, and that was without taking into account servant-level speed or strength.

I guess a foreign lady like you wouldn't know but I'm an expert in Kendo. You stand no cha-!

Taiga had already bowed and the match was already technically begun, so Arturia simply stepped forwards, whipping the wooden training sword down and around in a rising slash. She wasn't about to go all out against a teenage girl, expert or otherwise, but after the verbal abuse she'd endured up to this point, she might have opened herself up just a little, activating her mana burst as she swung.

Which was why the clatter of wood on wood rather than the expected slap of bokken meeting flesh was so surprising.

You think you're the first person to try and catch me boast-ack!

Arturia twisted the blade in her grip, catching just enough leverage to flick Taiga's sword away. Without a proper crossguard the move was not nearly as sure a disarmament as it could have been but with how unorthodox such a move would be in Kendo combined with her greater strength Taiga was caught off guard, and the sword went flying.

I think you should have stopped trying to boast the first time I attacked.

Three more disarms and one broken training sword later Arturia had claimed victory in all five rounds. Taiga left in a huff and Shirou begged for swordsmanship lessons over dinner. She gently rebuffed the request, and thought that would be the end of it, right up until the very next day when Taiga challenged her again, apparently having skipped her club to follow them home.

And again the next day...

And the day after that...

By the end of the second week with only the weekend providing respite Taiga was visibly feeling the strain of trying to duel a heroic spirit every day. Not only that but Shirou was only growing more and more eager than ever to learn to fight the way she did. Finally Arturia was forced to relent against two fronts of pressure. Evening lessons in swordsmanship for Shirou a few days a week, and Taiga would be permitted to walk Shirou to and from school each day as well as care for him in the evenings when she wasn't available. She had half expected Taiga to be mollified by how rarely her presence was needed in the latter capacity of their agreement, but the girl just kept coming over, apparently no less enthused to be spending time with both of them.

That she lived just down the street helped as well.

Shirou released Arturia, giving her just enough time to stand and brace herself for the flying tackle that Taiga called a hug. Even taking servant strength into account physics was still a harsh mistress, and a hundred-odd pounds of muscular teenager applied to her chest and shoulders could still send her sprawling without appropriate preparation. She did not so much reciprocate the hug as snatch the girl out of the air, spinning her around once to bleed off momentum before setting her down and giving her a proper embrace.

"Shirou, Taiga, Welcome home."

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"At least this is great winter food…"

While some aspects of her life had been easier to manage, others had been more difficult, and cooking had been one hurdle she was still struggling to clear. While kingship had afforded her little to no knowledge of the sort, reaching deeper into her past as a questing knight had taught her some simple dishes. Unfortunately, what passed for good food by old Britain's standards was far removed from modern Japanese sensibilities and while the hearty meals were by no means bad-tasting, they were simply too strange to pass unmentioned in such an old and tradition-steeped city like Fuyuki.

"But really Ria-senpai, you should learn some proper Japanese dishes already~ Especially if you're raising a Japanese kid! Food is an important part of culture don'tcha know?"

During the warm summer and early fall months shirou had been quiet and rarely complained, least of all about the odd food but amongst the other headaches Taiga's introduction into their lives had brought, her complaints about Arturia's cooking were one of the least easily resolved. This was notwithstanding her grudging admission that the heavier English dishes were at least fairly appropriate for the snowy day outside.

"I know Taiga, I simply haven't had the time." She shifted a little on the mats as she smiled politely back. "Perhaps once the weather begins to warm and the rushes at work die down I will be able to make an effort to learn."

"Haah… Fine. But I'll hold you to that!" Taiga's finger shot out declaratively, but Arturia knew enough of the girl by now that she had a trump card in stock. "If it displeases you so, why do you keep coming over for dinner? It isn't as though you don't eat it all…"

At first she had considered speaking to Taiga as an experience not dissimilar to the subtle verbal posturing of dealing with courtiers in the course of the day to day duties of kingship. As it was, she was coming to realize that each conversation with Taiga had more in common with sparring against a soldier. Her opponent was cunning and capable enough to hold her own for a little while, but was simply out of her league when it came down to it.

"Neh… So Ria-Senpai what were those papers you had when we came in? Looked important~." Predictably Taiga was changing the subject, fearlessly meeting Arturia's hard emerald gaze with her own as she worked out a new plan of attack.

"Actually I was meaning to mention them, my permanent residency has been approved!"

"EHHH?!"

"That's fantastic Arturia!"

It was only a single step on the path towards establishing herself properly in this time and place but it was the first piece of real permanency to her presence here. Emiya's paperwork for her had all been temporary, a nod to the transient nature of her role as a heroic spirit, but this was something that wouldn't simply be scrapped in a few weeks or months.

It was strange to think of, that even after she might eventually pass on once again, that some archive somewhere would hold and recognize that once upon a time Arturia Einzbern had lived in Fuyuki city, Japan. The happy smile that had decorated her face at the pronouncement – pride in showing off her small achievement before this small audience – shifted slightly, taking on a note of melancholy before she shook herself, banishing that introspective mood that seemed determined to try and wrap itself around her.

"I mean ah… Congratulations Arturia-Senpai?" Suitably chastised for her combative attitude Taiga settled back into her own seat, though true to her usual energy she didn't remain still for very long, shifting back and forth on the cushion.

"So next is um… Ci-ti-zen-ship right?" Shirou stumbled a little on the longer word.

"Right" – Arturia nodded – "It is as though… Hm… These papers are more permission than anything, letting me stay here even though it's not my home. But citizenship is like being told that Japan is my home now."

"Um!" Arturia was pretty sure that the smiling nod she got from Shirou indicated only a partial understanding of what she'd just explained but she didn't mind. In truth he was already far advanced in his education compared to where she had been at the same age. That he understood enough of that to affirm it at all was impressive.

Smile restored, Arturia reached across to ruffle Shirou's hair, then looked across the table. The stewpot was still half full but the bowls had been thoroughly emptied. She closed her eyes with a happy sigh and rose to her feet. "Come on you two, let's clean up."

It was a small step, but it was a start.

=End Chapter Two=



Thanks to @Swordomatic and @reborn214 for helping me to proofread this as well as @BlackHadou for helping me make sure all my setting and character details were mostly accurate and straightforward.

Truly they do the work of gods.
 
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In one hand, this will certainly attracts every kind of interesting people, and our little murderous loli will hatehatehatehatehatttyhate Artie and her Kid with more burning passion. But in one hand....

This will give Juhabacht multiple aneurism.

Yeah... This one took a lot of thought but it made both a lot of sense and had too many good potential plot threads attached to pass it up.

Also you missed the part where Shirou is going to get all the funny looks from a certain twintailed Magus when he hits high school...
 
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In one hand, this will certainly attracts every kind of interesting people, and our little murderous loli will hatehatehatehatehatttyhate Artie and her Kid with more burning passion. But in one hand....

This will give Juhabacht multiple aneurism.
Maybe just Old Acht (Not even gonna TRY and spell his name), because I can't really see Arturia leaving Ilya there, and unlike Kiritsugu, I highly doubt they could stop Arturia from getting to her.
 
Maybe just Old Acht (Not even gonna TRY and spell his name), because I can't really see Arturia leaving Ilya there, and unlike Kiritsugu, I highly doubt they could stop Arturia from getting to her.
Well, that depends on what Juhabacht feeding on Illya's mind after, say, 7 months, maybe 1 full year. Also, while Artie can feed on natural prana (somehow), she can't exactly go Tokusatsu on Einzbern Stronghold without strong, reliable prana source. She had Shirou-chan, sure, but....
 
Maybe just Old Acht (Not even gonna TRY and spell his name), because I can't really see Arturia leaving Ilya there, and unlike Kiritsugu, I highly doubt they could stop Arturia from getting to her.

It's actually unclear as to whether Arturia would have learned of Ilya during Fate/Zero. She's never shown receiving the information on screen, though given how close she was with Irisviel it is not inconceivable that she might learn of her daughter.

Put simply, I really haven't decided how I want this plot point to play out, and given her hands are full with raising and trying to provide for Shirou while learning about the modern world, Arturia may be some time before she thinks of Ilya, if she knows of her at all.

natural prana (somehow)

Actually it's not so much Natural Prana as it is her 'Dragon Heart/Dragon Reactor' ability. Provided she is properly summoned, her mana production and capacity are those of a dragon, making her capable of sustaining herself in the world without a master.

Only reason she doesn't get that in the fifth grail war is due to Shirou's lack of mana there wasn't enough to kickstart the dragon heart during the summoning.
 
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It's actually unclear as to whether Arturia would have learned of Ilya during Fate/Zero. She's never shown receiving the information on screen, though given how close she was with Irisviel it is not inconceivable that she might learn of her daughter.

Put simply, I really haven't decided how I want this plot point to play out, and given her hands are full with raising and trying to provide for Shirou while learning about the modern world, Arturia may be some time before she thinks of Ilya, if she knows of her at all.
That is a good point, but I can at least confirm that Arturia does know about Ilya. I recently watched Zero, and Saber is talking with Iri while watching Kiritsugu play with Ilya outside and calls Ilya "Your Daughter".
 
So how exactly will Arturia react when she finds out that Kiritsugu had a very good reason for destroying the grail?

She actually discovers the taint affecting the grail in most routes of Fate and usually takes it fairly well, though butterflies may generate alternate characterizations here.

We'll see...

That is a good point, but I can at least confirm that Arturia does know about Ilya. I recently watched Zero, and Saber is talking with Iri while watching Kiritsugu play with Ilya outside and calls Ilya "Your Daughter".

I was just in fact informed of this by my helpful beta and idea people, but I would say that my points on memory and time stand.

Arturia certainly knows of Ilya, but may not remember, or may choose not to do anything about it. After all would she really see a need to storm a Magus castle to effectively kidnap a young girl solely For the reason that she really liked her mother?

I dunno...
 
Arturia certainly knows of Ilya, but may not remember, or may choose not to do anything about it. After all would she really see a need to storm a Magus castle to effectively kidnap a young girl solely For the reason that she really liked her mother?
There's also the fact she'd need to A) somehow get to Germany, B) Know where in the mountains the Einzbern castle is and C) somehow do this with Shirou in tow.
 
Also, regarding future plot point with Illya: From here on, what Einzbern knows is that:
A. Kiritsugu is dead.
B. Arturia is still alive, somehow.
C. Grail is Destroyed.

Most people will assumes that Arturia was responsible for his death, and his failure to get Grail. The why doesn't matter. All Juhabact need to say when he found out was simple: "This bitch killed your parents. You can hunt her down in Grail War." And since all of this technically true....

This will hard to not end in tears.:(
 
I was just in fact informed of this by my helpful beta and idea people, but I would say that my points on memory and time stand.

Arturia certainly knows of Ilya, but may not remember, or may choose not to do anything about it. After all would she really see a need to storm a Magus castle to effectively kidnap a young girl solely For the reason that she really liked her mother?

I dunno...
Actually, there is a reason: Arturia will simply assumes Illya will be taken care of. After all, Illya is an Einzbern, and someone like Arturia, who grown with normal (not Magus) sensibilities wouldn't even think that her own family will abandon her. Simple as that.
 
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