Halkegenia Online Thread 22 - Kill Sheffield Vol. 2

Crackers I forgot that, which makes me think of a grand trap called Cadenza most amusing.

If the Puca did have that music that could induce chaos in their enemies (And I'd like to think they do since Chaos has been used as a status effect before so it does occur in games.), bottle them, hide them all over Cadenza, and then when it comes to spring the trap, watch Reconquista soldiers turn on one another like crazed beasts.

Obviously you won't get the city back in any less than a hundred pieces, but I like the irony of this plan from a meta-standpoint. Anyone remember the incident of the Silver Pentecost from the original timeline? Now turn it on Reconquista instead.

And the song for it, with fitting lyrics too.
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Chaos?
 
They can still burn precious objects, piss and shit in places plainly not meant for it, steal everything they don't ruin.

Having an army of fanatics and mercenaries take over your city makes it unlikely to get it back in any fit state to live in.

An army of fanatics with no conception of modern hygiene! Assuming the city doesn't get burnt to the ground it'll take YEARS to finish cleaning up all the filth the Reconquistadores will leave in odd places while completely ignoring the modern conveniences meant for such.
 
An army of fanatics with no conception of modern hygiene! Assuming the city doesn't get burnt to the ground it'll take YEARS to finish cleaning up all the filth the Reconquistadores will leave in odd places while completely ignoring the modern conveniences meant for such.

Maybe it will hasten the development of non-stair-based vertical transport? [Stretching that as an upside.]
 
An army of fanatics with no conception of modern hygiene! Assuming the city doesn't get burnt to the ground it'll take YEARS to finish cleaning up all the filth the Reconquistadores will leave in odd places while completely ignoring the modern conveniences meant for such.

*later a Pucca in Albion interrogating a Prisoner*

Pucca: So ... what unit are you?

Solider: Like I would tell you abomination.

Pucca: *slap* Adomination?! *slap* I don't take SHITS all over the place in towns I conquer! *slap* NOW WHAT OUTFIT ARE YOU FROM SOLIDER?!
 
You're talking about the place like when they burnt those villages to the ground. That's not going to fly here because they'll be the ones living there.

Look at York for example or the new Albion capital - while they took damage from the infighting, they didn't destroy them to piss off the Royalists. Why? Because they need the place. Them shittin' in the road is shittin' on your road now, not the Faes.

Because those were Albion cities being taken by Albion people.
 
You have to admit it's a pretty compelling recruitment line if there are no other options available. ;)

You mean options like fighting back for your life? You know, because the worst fae are roughly equivalent to the average soldier of Reconquista except that they also have magic? So instead of having a target that has lots of civilians armed with improvised weapons, they have a target that has lots of civilians who are used to small unit tactics, optimized for close and personal combat, in a city environment where these things are key?
 
An army of fanatics with no conception of modern hygiene! Assuming the city doesn't get burnt to the ground it'll take YEARS to finish cleaning up all the filth the Reconquistadores will leave in odd places while completely ignoring the modern conveniences meant for such.

Nonsense, this is a job for the,

SLIME WRANGLERS!

Of course it does lead to the rare boss slime mob to deal with but hey, it's a dirty job, and somebody's got to do it!
 
An army of fanatics with no conception of modern hygiene! Assuming the city doesn't get burnt to the ground it'll take YEARS to finish cleaning up all the filth the Reconquistadores will leave in odd places while completely ignoring the modern conveniences meant for such.

Well a army of fanatics any way, given its a Europe espy but rather isolated I suspect its likely they do bath quite frequently, medieval Europe continued and even spread ancient Roman bathing practices until the black death came along which pretty much killed communal and frequent bathing in general. Even in places where the romans didn't rule like much of the holy roman empire bathhouses a staple of HRE settlements. In fact if any thing they bathed perhaps more than was healthy.
 
Because those were Albion cities being taken by Albion people.
So, you believe they'll burn their new base of command and only foothold in Tristain and the continent to the ground? Or at least make in unhabitable despite the fact that people will be living there as, again, it will be a base?

Realistically speaking, all they'll do is burn invaluable or heretical objects such photos, letters, and all Fae books. Demolish any building that goes against Brimir. And, then ransack any place with weapons, jewels, and money.

Outside of that, they're more likely to fortify the city than ruin it. Especially with winter coming up.

They aren't marching through the city, they are stealing it.

Now on the way out, they might try to blow the place sky high, but that depends on whether it's a surrender and how much time beforehand they have to put any trap in place like we saw in New Castle.
 
If the Reconquista do manage to hold onto Cadenza until the Winter they are going to have a lot of problems.

First as TH said it's not a very defensible location meaning creating effective fortifications is going to be somewhat difficult. Next they are definitely going to be under siege from day one and they won't have any intact armories, warehouse stocks of food, material etc (as mentioned by TH).

This means they are going to be sitting in enemy territory and the only real sources for food, ammo, war materials, replacement soldiers etc have to come from a rather long supply chain running back to Albion.

I get the feeling Mortimer is going to grab some Spriggan illusion specialists, Wales, the Eagle and some other fast raider ships then introduce Halkeginia to the Wolfpack tactic a few centuries before it appeared IRL.
 
First as TH said it's not a very defensible location meaning creating effective fortifications is going to be somewhat difficult.

Earth Mages are great for putting together defensible locations on short notice.

Next they are definitely going to be under siege from day one and they won't have any intact armories, warehouse stocks of food, material etc (as mentioned by TH).

This means they are going to be sitting in enemy territory and the only real sources for food, ammo, war materials, replacement soldiers etc have to come from a rather long supply chain running back to Albion.

It's less then a days trip to Albion that's not that long of a supply chain.
 
Earth Mages are great for putting together defensible locations on short notice.



It's less then a days trip to Albion that's not that long of a supply chain.
The supply ships will make a great target though if they can't defend the supply chain properly from hit and run tactics because they also tried to take Freelia and Sylvain at the same time and thus weakened there fleets.
 
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You know, I actually would prefer if they attacked Gadan, just for the image of Solomon appearing before the Admiral in charge of the attack and calmly and politely ask him to take his fleet and then repeat the offer after he casually destroys most of the fleet. Or him being the Good Cop to Octavia's Bad Cop after the reconquista fleet accidentally destroys the (God awful) clay pot that she was making Asuna in order to prove that she could make it better than Yui's own (equally awful) pot.
 
Nonsense, this is a job for the,

SLIME WRANGLERS!

Of course it does lead to the rare boss slime mob to deal with but hey, it's a dirty job, and somebody's got to do it!

Do the slime get giant suspenders to wear. And do they smell like rotten berries?

Also is the boss slime named Gurshle?
 
*later a Pucca in Albion interrogating a Prisoner*

Pucca: So ... what unit are you?

Solider: Like I would tell you abomination.

Pucca: *slap* Adomination?! *slap* I don't take SHITS all over the place in towns I conquer! *slap* NOW WHAT OUTFIT ARE YOU FROM SOLIDER?!
Just play the Barney theme from a music crystal till that [REDACTED] begs for you to stop.

It. Works. Wonders.
 
Makes a great target though if they can't defend the supply chain properly because they also tried to take Freelia and Sylvain at the same time and thus weakened there fleets.

Going to be hard and expensive for Tristan to raid their supply chain without a base right next to the arrival or departure point.

Otherwise there only real hope of catching ships is sending a couple dozen of their own out. And having them search day and night for any resupply convoy's. Which would probably cost Tristian as much in Wind Stones as they cost Reconquista by depriving them of the ship or two they will catch.
 
Going to be hard and expensive for Tristan to raid their supply chain without a base right next to the arrival or departure point.

Otherwise there only real hope of catching ships is sending a couple dozen of their own out. And having them search day and night for any resupply convoy's. Which would probably cost Tristian as much in Wind Stones as they cost Reconquista by depriving them of the ship or two they will catch.
That doesnt make any sense at all.
They KNOW where they are going to come from and where they are going.
So all they need to do is put in place near Cadenza but far enough to be out of range and wait for ships using Wind Dragons and or Fae with moonlight Mirrors to scout for them.
Once they are spotted they intercept and take or damage the convoy.

Why in the WORLD would you waste your time when the convoy HAS to come to Cadenza?
 
Indeed, they know where the supplies have to go and convoys are going to be far vastly noticeable than single ships, when they are all going to one location even if it is from from a island that moves around there is going to be a limited number of routes they can take, not to mention if Tristian has captured Cadenza under siege, most likely it will be if not at least picketed, approaching it will be extremely dangerous in and of it self even with raiders and privateers for any ship much less a group of ships.
 
If anything they are going to raze it to the ground to make a statement. We are better than these Fae. Look how we burned one of their major cities to the ground.

This of course ignores that they missed most of the civilians, Freelia still stands and they lost a good chunk of the fleet.
 
Going to be hard and expensive for Tristan to raid their supply chain without a base right next to the arrival or departure point.

Otherwise there only real hope of catching ships is sending a couple dozen of their own out. And having them search day and night for any resupply convoy's. Which would probably cost Tristian as much in Wind Stones as they cost Reconquista by depriving them of the ship or two they will catch.


Just the sort of problem to be solved by the mermaid with the a 'Long Range Laser Beam Head Canon'!
 
If anything they are going to raze it to the ground to make a statement. We are better than these Fae. Look how we burned one of their major cities to the ground.

This of course ignores that they missed most of the civilians, Freelia still stands and they lost a good chunk of the fleet.
Well except that they would still need a base of operations while in Tristan so they won't burn it to the ground yet. Now if they are in full retreat and such then yes they may set the city on fire.
 
Well except that they would still need a base of operations while in Tristan so they won't burn it to the ground yet. Now if they are in full retreat and such then yes they may set the city on fire.
Well, they might set it on fire while expecting to have Freelia to head to for the winter.

That's a ridiculous longshot though.
 
Makes a great target though if they can't defend the supply chain properly especially if they also try to take Freelia and Sylvain at the same time and thus weaken there fleets.
Well yeah. Any supply chain going through contested territory is a target. More to the point they don't need to sink all the transports to really mess up the Albion foothold. Even with Gallia giving support Reconquista's coffers, production capabilities and food stocks are not limitless nor do they possess instantaneous shipbuilding.

It would be a tonnage war with Albion having to build/buy new transport ships and restock the holds while Tristain sinks/steals them in the route between Albion and Cadenza.

Of course for all we know the various armchair admirals directing the supply chain might not even adopt true convoys (massive numbers of transports at one time guarded by multiple ships) until far too many transports have been lost.
 
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Albion does have at least one first-rate Admiral at their disposal, so there will be some officers who will grasp what Wales and Remee will be trying to do to their supply lines.

A bigger problem would be the fact that even if they don't raze Cadenza, it's a tent city intended to be located in a region that is climate-controlled by Cardinal, and said control no longer exists. It's not exactly designed to provide good shelter during the winter, so troops billeted there are going to be rather miserable.

Also, the mobs around Cadenza probably aren't intended to weather winters well either. They'll likely try to raid the Reconquistador camps for food once they realize they have supplies that are more plentiful than the starving wildlife that are themselves just trying to survive the winter. Some of them may decide that a sentry has more meat on him than a few paltry rabbits and try picking them off.
 
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