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Some people did yes.
But only a minority, the rest at most ended up passively resisting occupiers. Mostly this took the form of providing shelter and supplies to those who were fighting as Resistance fighters.
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Some people did yes.
But only a minority, the rest at most ended up passively resisting occupiers. Mostly this took the form of providing shelter and supplies to those who were fighting as Resistance fighters.
revanninja
Lost on the Road of Life
Love how vaer claims that helmsdeep doesnt represent what people will do when their backs to the wall when in fact it does historically.
While often Civilians wont fight they will help with things like bucket brigades and other like non-combat roles which lessens the stress on defenders.
Civilians will also join arms with the army protecting them if they feel they cant escape or their families are in danger.
Siege of Vienna
As the Ottomans advanced towards Vienna, the city's population organised an ad-hoc resistance formed from local farmers, peasants and civilians determined to repel the inevitable attack. The defenders were supported by a variety of European mercenaries; namely German Landsknecht pikemen and Spanish musketeers sent by Charles V.[14][15]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Vienna
While such works dont happen all the time they do in fact happen and a LOT more then vaer gives it credit for.
Perhaps the most famous cat was one Simon built two years later, attempting to besiege the City of Toulouse in 1217-18. It was while protecting his cat from counter attack by the citizens of Toulouse that Simon de Montfort was struck on the head by a massive stone projectile from a trebuchet on the city walls, and killed instantly.
http://www.medievalwarfare.info/
While often Civilians wont fight they will help with things like bucket brigades and other like non-combat roles which lessens the stress on defenders.
Civilians will also join arms with the army protecting them if they feel they cant escape or their families are in danger.
Siege of Vienna
As the Ottomans advanced towards Vienna, the city's population organised an ad-hoc resistance formed from local farmers, peasants and civilians determined to repel the inevitable attack. The defenders were supported by a variety of European mercenaries; namely German Landsknecht pikemen and Spanish musketeers sent by Charles V.[14][15]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Vienna
While such works dont happen all the time they do in fact happen and a LOT more then vaer gives it credit for.
Perhaps the most famous cat was one Simon built two years later, attempting to besiege the City of Toulouse in 1217-18. It was while protecting his cat from counter attack by the citizens of Toulouse that Simon de Montfort was struck on the head by a massive stone projectile from a trebuchet on the city walls, and killed instantly.
http://www.medievalwarfare.info/
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That's just nonsense especially when your talking about the ancient, medieval and early modern periods were sieges against fortified cities fortresses and castles were extremely common most often everyone capable of even throwing a pot or rock over the wall, rebuilding walls, putting out fires took part, reloading crossbows bringing ammo, pouring hot oil and molten lead etc. took part.
revanninja
Lost on the Road of Life
While I am loath to point this out that doesnt indicate she out flew it just that she caught a guy using one and doenst go into How that happened.
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The Fae have no idea what Reconquista will do with any captured Fae because none so far have been captured.
However they do know that Reconquista is perfectly willing to work with Fae. Because of the way they did so with Ephi and Rip Jack.
They also know that Reconquista has no qualms about turning Fae into zombies and sending them to kill their former comrades, just ask Aki-chan.
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Indeed there's a variety of ways she could have caught him that doesn't involve out flying the wind dragon.
You mean other than they've turned dead fae into undead abominations that is and made it clear they see the fae as unholy abominations to be destroyed.
You mean other than they've turned dead fae into undead abominations that is and made it clear they see the fae as unholy abominations to be destroyed.
End Bringer
Keeping it logical
Necromancy.
Religiously motivated racial bias.
Wants to conquer the world/continent.
Any of this ringing any bells?
jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
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Well in the second part of the Tarbes side story there is another mention of the general flight speed of Fae:
Though Leafa is apparently something of a speed demon as far as Sylphs go so who knows how fast she can go in a 'sprint'.
I will also point out that the Japanese have a long history of religiously motivated persecution. They are quite familiar with the concept of secret Christitans, killing anyone of X faith, back and forth so they are likely to believe it when the Reconquista says something like "Kill all non-humans for Brimnir."
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You know what, I have had enough of arguing like this.
So I am just going to ask you to source your claims on the unending resistance of civilian populations as being the standard.
You're letting your prejudice against necromancy show.
Additionally that runs counter to Reconquista's shown willingness to work with living Fae.
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revanninja
Lost on the Road of Life
Well except Sylphied isnt a wind dragon but I guess if she is masking herself as one she is probably just as fast as one give or take.
So fae are as fast as Wind Dragons or Nearly that.
Which still means trying to overfly a Fae city is a death wish of the extreme order.
And Also thinking about it if at min it takes 12 hours for a fleet to fly to Tristain from Albion that gives the fae plenty of time to set up defense's both as runners and Moonlight Mirrors.
So no way in Heck are they going to catch the trsitain forces with their pants down. Which lines up with history its rare a Military isnt aware of the other when in a large force. Its usually the smaller more mobile forces that can attack with surprise.
And if the Fae use the Dragons in any way remotely like we talked about that means they can meet the forces before they can even get close to firing/bombing range and drive them off.
Also TRIST is R&Ding Cannons for Halk that out strip Albions by miles and have had enough time to get a sizable amount in place even with basics like Sights, Suspensions and just plain better gunpowder.
So yeah doubt the Albion forces are going to come away from this easily.
More then likely when they take Cadenza their ships and forces took so much damage they cant keep it. With the Fae sinking the Albion forces in mass which will greatly hurt the Albion war effort.
And with a strike on Tristain soil the Forces are going to want to strike back which means the movement into the Albion war in earnest.
Yes, they are willing to work with living Fae who are willing to work with them. If they're NOT willing, Reconquista kills them and Cromwell raises them as a zombie slave. So Reconquista's recruitment line is "Work for us, or die THEN work for us"
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The unit that was working with Ephi was a mercenary unit only hired by Reconquista who is to say had the coup been successful that the actual Reconquista wouldn't have had them killed after all exact words are interesting.
Also in fairness can you source your claim that people ran in such situations as the norm?
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revanninja
Lost on the Road of Life
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
Oh stop my Sides!
Oh the Irony!
Considering Vaer has said and not sourced anything?
BWHAHAHAHAHA!
jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
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Has he ever?
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Sometimes but they are usually things that can be interpreted in many ways.
revanninja
Lost on the Road of Life
No he hasnt.
Like when he tried to claim Bastards werent a big thing even though I cited German Law books on the Issue and an executioner's diary on it.
Or Now when he tried to say Civlians dont do that when a simple search brings up Siege of Vienna and other like places.
Or he leaves things out that are not even paragraph below that ruins his arguments.
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Vaer, the Brimric faith, the same faith the Reconquista claims to champion views Necromancy as the most heinous of heresy. As in "find the necromancer and make sure he / she / it dies in a fire!"
Reference - the Zae autopsy before Cromwell used his "kill switch" on the Zae.
As for the Fae working with the Reconquista, I would make this argument:
We, the readers, know that some Fae have worked with the Reconquista. The average Fae on the street does not. They don't know about the traitors, they don't know about the Fae who helped cause the debacle at the gala. All they know about the Reconquista is what the SAOvivors from Albion have shared with them and what they have picked up from their Tristanian neighbors.
Without knowing that some Fae had worked with the Reconquista in the past, if you were Fae, would you honestly go try and work with someone who casually murders people like you? And then raises them from the dead to be puppets, charged with killing everyone you love?
End Bringer
Keeping it logical
You are right, there is no point to argue about this with you anymore. Your argument here is so outrageously silly even labeling it 'outrageously silly' doesn't do it justice. So there's no further point to continue as the difference between our perceptions are as distant as planet Earth is from planet Goldilocks in a galaxy far, far away.
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Dragontrapper
Homeless Draconis
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Can't we discuss something fun, like future mini! Tavi shenanigans w/ Yui and Bardiche?
revanninja
Lost on the Road of Life
Sure.
Yui is thinking of bringing Tavi in for either pet day or Family day.
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Which again I am really looking forward to see how the people of Albion react once the Pope declares that reconquista is using Necromancy. Also did Cromwell actually denounce the pope or did he only denounce the royal familes etc?
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That would be most hillarious to see how the others react to her.