The same Qi can be added multiple times:
Reflection is a combination of mirror and light, which are respectively a combination of water+ metal+ Yin and crystal + Yin, with crystal being a combination of earth +yin.
Ghosts of the Ancestors. (A Cultivation Riot Quest).
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Reflection is a combination of mirror and light, which are respectively a combination of water+ metal+ Yin and crystal + Yin, with crystal being a combination of earth +yin.
It's tough because on the one hand I really want blood spilling cycle but on the other hand I really don't want to spend 1 shard on something we can do ourselves, let alone 2.
...Fuck it, we can get it next time we get some shards, and Poison Valley Crew isn't a bad plan anyway
[X] Plan Blood, Blood, Gallons of the stuff! V2
[X] Poison Valley Crew
...Fuck it, we can get it next time we get some shards, and Poison Valley Crew isn't a bad plan anyway
[X] Plan Blood, Blood, Gallons of the stuff! V2
[X] Poison Valley Crew
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We're going to be in kind of an awkward spot next turn since we want Reflection Mind before we do too much more training, and the Qi ghost part of the Second Dantian Plan requires a lot less progress and only needs to be ready when we hit breakthrough 6.
So I propose that knowledge ghosts try to unlock knowledge of the bloodline and Qi ghosts maybe try to rush for the next Yin Siphons, since that would help everyone out in the long run.
So I propose that knowledge ghosts try to unlock knowledge of the bloodline and Qi ghosts maybe try to rush for the next Yin Siphons, since that would help everyone out in the long run.
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[X] Plan Blood, Blood, Gallons of the stuff! V2
[X] Plan: No More Surprises
We should at least get blood cycling
[X] Plan: No More Surprises
We should at least get blood cycling
It has its uses, but is it more usefull than bloodline reinforcement?
Doubling down what differentiated Li from a poor, talentless disciple? (All we did for him relates to the bloodline, as that is what lets us cooperate with him by advising and teaching!)
Honestly the bloodline thing doesn't just need to unlock shen but gain a decent amount of it.
So picking it is more about focusing the collective on unlocking shen more then it being reasonable to believe we can upgrade our bloodline before we get more shards
If it had a snowballs chance of winning I would replace it with the middle dantian pill (which will also steer the collective) and save one for latter. It's not like shen's only use is strengthening the bloodline and we can get it later
I vote against the blood cycling as something insidious I don't think junior is ready for yet on the only plan without it that may win
So picking it is more about focusing the collective on unlocking shen more then it being reasonable to believe we can upgrade our bloodline before we get more shards
If it had a snowballs chance of winning I would replace it with the middle dantian pill (which will also steer the collective) and save one for latter. It's not like shen's only use is strengthening the bloodline and we can get it later
I vote against the blood cycling as something insidious I don't think junior is ready for yet on the only plan without it that may win
Blood Cycling isn't inherently insidious, it's just pretty damn close to it, on account of it being (if I'm understanding the description right) a reformed Demonic Technique. If we keep to just using it to passively collect Blood Qi whenever Guang Li hunts one of the many different creatures in the jungle then, at least in theory, it's just a regular Blood Cultivation technique, no more sinister than our already existing Ghost Ancestors.
Honestly, the Guang's entire thing seems to have its origins in having really shady and sinister techniques that over time got converted to still kinda shady but not necessarily evil techniques, considering our Bloodline started out with people murdering their relatives for power.
If the currently leading plan wins and we also get the pill:
- Get reflection mind
- Get the refining pill from shop
- Get 1 reflection Qi from the artifact, 2 a different way (like brewing the pills, or omake Points)
- Get Breakthrough to 5
- Depends on how negative effective levels are priced, pessimistically assuming like lvl 1: needs 150 progress
- Brew 1 dantian pill
- 1 rare, 15 common herbs, doubled Alchemy score needed
If we make a second pill its 77% (no re-roll) or 90% (with re-roll).
Middle dantian is entirely doable in next few turns.
Probably done before we even arrive. (If we come together to do it)
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It seems pretty doable without the pill too, we'd need Breakthrough 6 and about 150ish qi progress, right?
Either way, once we get Yin Meridians to match that breakthrough score Qi ghosts can probably do our half of the second step a few turns after second Dantian.
Either way, once we get Yin Meridians to match that breakthrough score Qi ghosts can probably do our half of the second step a few turns after second Dantian.
If/Now/When we have a higher Breakthrough, Guang Li may get an Inspiration if I'm reading things right.
We may not want a restricted almost-demonic technique to get an Inspiration.
We may not want a restricted almost-demonic technique to get an Inspiration.
Depends on what risk of failure we are willing to take
Skill 5: 150 Wisdom Progress
Skill 6: 300 Wisdom Progress
If I'm right,
No Qi efffort:
150 Qi effort
With each attempt costing 1 Yin and 1 Yang (or 10 pure for inferior but fixable results)
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This is right.
Anyways, I think I will keep the vote going till tomorrow and then start working away at the next section.
Your bloodline didn't actually start with murdering people (that came later) originally, they were an offshoot of a minor bloodline of mediums which traveled around as exorcists and psychics helping both the living and the dead achieve peace by communicating last words and requests.
I haven't really decided yet if this was just a random mutation, or a purposeful act but it has little effect on our current times.
Technically (very technically) the Guang haven't lost the ability to channel none blood line members but they do need access to knowledge and techniques to attempt such and its not as natural and instinctual as channeling their ancestors, for most at least some of the more minor branches of the line kept that particular ability a lot better than others but this is correct for most Guang (or was seeing most if not all of them are dead).
Strengthening this aspect through bloodline thickening is very much a possibility.
The blood spilling cycle is actually a product of the third demonic war about four thousand to four thousand five hundred years ago.
For some context, many a technique and cultivator is labeled a demonic for a verity of reasons and the line can blur based on your reputation (no one would dare accuse infinite mountain of demonic practices despite the fact that the only difference in their flesh crafting is that they tack righteous in front of it and aren't using it on mortals) but most demonic cultivators aren't true demons, they are just ruthless cultivators which use corrupting techniques and or harvest mortals/their fellow cultivators for personal gain or pleasure.
Ture demons are terrifying and the rise of one is almost always the prelude to a new demonic war, where the entire righteous world bands together to just barely beat up the demon.
So the powers that be work tirelessly to suppress any hint of true demonic power before it's too late.
This happens for a few reasons.
Ture demons harvest not only the blood but the energy of death accrued from the act as well as the very soul itself. All three (but especially the latter) are powerful sources of energy, allowing the demon to not only advance in a fraction of the time but advance with a base surpassing their righteous counterparts.
Their lack of regard for the lives of others (or the demon own mental facilities) meant that using dark and corruptive arts as long as they stacked the pile of bodies high enough they could cultivate their souls without limit. They would go batshit insane and at a certain point they would be more beast than man but they could do so (and generally once started will continue down that path uncaring or unknowing of the dangers).
For context NS cultivators naturally reach soul grade 15, the Guang method can bring you to grade 9 (this stacks with the natural progression in NS).
A demon NS on average sat at around soul grade 50 and their geniuses (the ones who could manage to not go insane and suicide their life away) could go as high as 100.
Very scary and very powerful.
At the time of the third (and currently last) demonic war the Guang were minor power and on the lower end of that spectrum, their nascent soul was new (relatively) and while they still possessed a lot of knowledge about the lower realms their grasp of it wasn't what it would be four thousand years later when they were counted as part of the great powers.
Worse, they did not have the numbers they possessed in the future, the blood spilling cycle (and most of your special blood refinements) were developed because the Guang found that ensuring enough new cultivators advanced to replaces loses was beyond their resources, they were losing too much too fast and while that meant many more ghosts were floating around helping out it just wasn't enough when generations of Guangs were just hallowed out by the total war consuming the continent.
So they instead of destroying some of the manuals and demonic techniques that managed to loot in battle with the demons the looked them over, compared and contrasted removed anything that has to do with death and the soul and used their vast knowledge base to negate the corruptive influences and made a technique that allowed their members to semi safely (later refinements allowed this to be safely) to advance through combat (the art doesn't require killing, its just that if you're spilling enough blood to be sufficient to be noted your likely killing someone) and took that energy and invested it into special refinements which only purpose was war.
And I hope you enjoyed another installment of "background information that lived rent free in my head but that isn't going to be useful in the present".
Imagine you go on a raid on a sect and suddenly one of them tells you "Your grandma is very disappointed in you, Min". Or "Why didn't you answer your grandmas letters, Min".
We know complex Qis can't stand in for their components, but could we develop versions of techniques that use different Qi?
(Mostly: developing a version of a water technique that could also use blood)
They tend to be very interesting.
Are the blood refinements we have Guang secrets?
Are there blood techniques not associated with demonic cultivation? (Like maybe under the doctor skill)
Developing (or redeveloping as the case may be) a variant technique is totally possible and some techniques can utilize different Qi (usually to differing effects).
Yes, in the sense that they are a secret the Guang keep, but it wouldn't surprise the ancestors if more then one sect/clan had/has similar or even identical ones.
Most of your refinements aren't demonic in any way, some might be considered borderline but its mostly the method of acquiring that Qi that is what termed demonic rather then what you use it for.
Socially people might look at you funny if you start throwing around blood blasts.
Oh gods, get some water-shell-themed technique for temp HP, get some water offenes, and develop blood variants of those two+serenity of water and Li could become an absolute monster in horde battles.
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Or instead of shell + offense techniques, get a combo technique:
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So there are blood techniques it would be ok being seen using and not just "its bordeline, just be strong enough noone dares to cause a scene"?
Are there medicinal blood techniques?
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Yes, medical stuff is likely a the top of that list but investigative techniques to find information from the blood of victims is a close second.
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Okay so we doubling down on blood qi and bloodline which si great plus the doctor and qi sense will be useful in the poison valley.
Hopefully well manage to get the extra qi stages on before we reach foundation.
Hopefully well manage to get the extra qi stages on before we reach foundation.
So, we got bloodline reinforcement, blood harvesting, Dantian pill, Qi sensing, doctor skill.
With 1 pill reducing the DC to 34, we can do it with: reflection mind then 150 progress of wisdom and 150 progress:
81.96% (no reroll) to 92.62% (with reroll)
Or with 2 pills reducing DC to 29:
reflection mind then 150 progress of wisdom
77.63% (no reroll) to 90.27% (with reroll)
Considering our target is 4 turns away, if we get full actions while traveling then we will probably have it done before we arrive.
Meaning we arrive looking for a new Sect with alchemy skills (enough to join VF Alchemy Hall and make good CC), an unlocked middle Dantian, and someone "favored by the heavens" in tow.
We'll be quite a catch when we go looking for a sect.
So we'd have something the Elders of a minor power consider suicide to try to attain.
Our beloved by heavens contact that is sticking with us.
Citations on 4 Turns by foot.
Oh and know what else we got?
Blood Qi gathering cheat.
With some monster hunting we'd not only have money from Solving Spirit Beast issues and Money from Butchering, but also Blood Qi.
Probably lots of it.
Which means more of our basic cultivation will be Blood Qi not just the blood refining. Only exception is probably reflection for mind and maybe senses. (Yin for meridians and yang for breakthrough is likely on the table too assuming we don't find something interesting where we are going)
Of course it's probably not free and junior will need trained or modified to even do blood cycling
Of course it's probably not free and junior will need trained or modified to even do blood cycling
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Wrath ghosts spent all that time making cultivating blood qi cheaper and now we won't even need it 😅