[X][Mousers] Only Give Ekko A Bomb
Issues Triggered: Violet (-2), Abandonment (-2), Jinx (-3)
Failure Consequences: Powder Argues with Vi, Mylo, and Claggor
[X][Willpower] Spend Two for +6
 
Why are the ekko only in favor of spending two will on this? We can spend 1 and we only need to roll 5 and higher. We haven't gone overboard like this for arguably more important outcomes.
 
[X][Mousers] Only Give Ekko A Bomb
Issues Triggered: Violet (-2), Abandonment (-2), Jinx (-3)
Failure Consequences: Powder Argues with Vi, Mylo, and Claggor
 
[X][Mousers] No Sharing Bombs

I know this is god king Ekko but it's still him as a child. I can't trust him with bombs.

[X][Willpower] Spend One for +3

Don't want to spend two and run out of gass so soon.

Handing out bombs to be popular is just asking for something to happen. It may give us will but I feel it'll cause more events we have to spend it on or if something goes wrong our issues increasing.
 
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I think if we give them all bombs, we should expect at least one person to die or be severely injured because of those bombs.

And not in a "Used it wrong" way, but in a "Put it down and a manufacturing defect meant it went off right next to them". We are not so skilled or so lucky.

[X][Mousers] Only Give Ekko A Bomb
 
So I just had an evil, evil idea of what might happen.


Silco feeds into VI's desire for rebellion, tempting her like the devil, asking for her to get him a hex crystal or a bit of hex tech, talking about how it might be the key to fixing things....

Imagine what it would be like if, instead of powder ending things in disaster, Vi was the one who ended up as the villain.

Imagine Powder having to face down her sister, boosted by a shimmer variant....
 
I think if we give them all bombs, we should expect at least one person to die or be severely injured because of those bombs.

And not in a "Used it wrong" way, but in a "Put it down and a manufacturing defect meant it went off right next to them". We are not so skilled or so lucky.

I think that's pretty unlikely? Powder has been testing and working on these things, and it's not like explosives are that hard to get right, at least with proper tools. I mean, hard to get to like 99.9% or 99.99% safe maybe, but enough that it's reasonable that nobody blows themselves up totally by accident. And the scenario your describing seems narratively unsatisfying to the point where I doubt it'll happen.

Now, "used it wrong" seems like basically a guarantee, but handing them out also hedges against the risk that we're the one that uses it wrong - after all, we can't blow up Mylo and Claggor if they blow themselves up first.

Edit: Also, from the perspective of "accidentally blew themselves up without meaning to set it off" I'll point out that arguably what Ekko wants to do is the most dangerous. Since he wants to take it apart and see how it works, whereas the others just want to set them off.

Silco feeds into VI's desire for rebellion, tempting her like the devil, asking for her to get him a hex crystal or a bit of hex tech, talking about how it might be the key to fixing things....

Imagine what it would be like if, instead of powder ending things in disaster, Vi was the one who ended up as the villain.

Imagine Powder having to face down her sister, boosted by a shimmer variant....

...I mean why don't we just side with Vi in that hypothetical?
 
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[X][Mousers] Grenades For Everyone
Powder Gains 1 Willpower for Entering her Popular Phase
 
Your really going to trust Mylo with a bomb. He's going to get himself blown up and if this is for Silco then he's the worse one to get it. He chokes under pressure.
 
...I mean why don't we just side with Vi in that hypothetical?
Well in this hypothetical Powder and the rest of the hextech founders chose not to take Silco's offer of his support.

Seeing that route won't work Silco shifts gears and offers Vi a chance to get back at piltover but "all he needs is one little crystal"
 
Your really going to trust Mylo with a bomb. He's going to get himself blown up and if this is for Silco then he's the worse one to get it. He chokes under pressure.
this is a very good arguement it is this that made me choose between only give ekko one or give nobody one , i only chose give ekko one because i figured powder would trust ekko's previous experience with explosive ordinance under benzo's guidance
 
Well in this hypothetical Powder and the rest of the hextech founders chose not to take Silco's offer of his support.

Seeing that route won't work Silco shifts gears and offers Vi a chance to get back at piltover but "all he needs is one little crystal"
depends on what is happening in the lanes and what he wants done with the hextech but i could see at this point at this point non weapon projects getting quite a bit of consideration in at least a 2/1 vote from the founder's.
at least if vander doesn't fond out he's alive then i figure he'd want to "talk to silco" before we do any projects from him. though i figure silco's smart enough to use proxys to hire us so vander doesn't catch wind of his survival
 
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So I just had an evil, evil idea of what might happen.


Silco feeds into VI's desire for rebellion, tempting her like the devil, asking for her to get him a hex crystal or a bit of hex tech, talking about how it might be the key to fixing things....

Imagine what it would be like if, instead of powder ending things in disaster, Vi was the one who ended up as the villain.

Imagine Powder having to face down her sister, boosted by a shimmer variant....
as for silco, i can't see silco managing to convince her to do that at this point,at this point influnce her to sway powders vote to accept a deal from his proxeys definatly i see that though.
 
depends on what is happening in the lanes and what he wants done with the hextech but i could see at this point at this point non weapon projects getting quite a bit of consideration in at least a 2/1 vote from the founder's.
at least if vander doesn't fond out he's alive then i figure he'd want to "talk to silco" before we do any projects from him. though i figure silco's smart enough to use proxys to hire us so vander doesn't catch wind of his survival

as for silco, i can't see silco managing to convince her to do that at this point,at this point influnce her to sway powders vote to accept a deal from his proxeys definatly i see that though.



True to both though how this plays out depends heavily on what Silco decides to do. The man will be the thing to determine if this is a tragedy or if we can dance at the edge of oblivion and come back safely
 
Well in this hypothetical Powder and the rest of the hextech founders chose not to take Silco's offer of his support.

Seeing that route won't work Silco shifts gears and offers Vi a chance to get back at piltover but "all he needs is one little crystal"

Honestly even then - Jayce has been pretty good to us, but he's not Vi. I'd prefer to slow roll things, I think that makes some strategic sense and there's a good argument for it, particularly if we can get some results from Hextech. And I think by far the most likely scenario is that any conflict with Silco is driven by his own issues with Vander, in which case, Vi will almost certainly be trying to help Vander. Because it's not like Vi was on Vander's "side" of that for ideological reasons, it was because he's her dad.

However, if Vi ends up on Silco's side and for whatever reason they're unwilling to take things more slowly, then I think we should seriously consider just joining them, even if it means cutting ties with Jayce. I think that wouldn't be ideal, but if push comes to shove we care a lot more about Vi than we do Jayce. Another possibility would be being their "man on the inside" - I'd be pretty okay with passing them Hextech even without Jayce and Viktor's okay.

True to both though how this plays out depends heavily on what Silco decides to do. The man will be the thing to determine if this is a tragedy or if we can dance at the edge of oblivion and come back safely

Eh, I don't think we should cede our part in quest direction to a NPC - especially one who quite frankly has a mountain of trauma and issues. I would expect that convincing him (to the extent that it's possible at all) will take at minimum a very difficult roll or two along the line somewhere.
 
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[X][Mousers] Only Give Ekko A Bomb
Issues Triggered: Violet (-2), Abandonment (-2), Jinx (-3)
Failure Consequences: Powder Argues with Vi, Mylo, and Claggor
[X][Willpower] Spend Two for +6
 
Eh, I don't think we should cede our part in quest direction to a NPC - especially one who quite frankly has a mountain of trauma and issues. I would expect that convincing him (to the extent that it's possible at all) will take at minimum a very difficult roll or two along the line somewhere.
i agree on this but it is a good to remember there is other forces in play other then ourselves but if we could resonably sway silco to a better path of zaun independence i'd be all for that
 
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