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Game of Thrones: Season 6

Initially I just found myself really confused at how Cersei hopes to come out of this alive with no allies, no claim to the throne and what should be only a very shaky hold on the Lannister forces, but I suppose with Qyburn's twenty poor children on her side she's bound to at least have a decent shot at it.

Slightly more seriously, that was a pretty great episode but getting beggar children to do her stabbing for her just seemed a bit surreal.
I suppose triggering the wildfire with them is at least somehow justifiable because of secrecy concerns, but she could have had Pycelle killed by whoever.
 
Teen Spirit said:
Ahh please, Nearly same age Aunt and Nephew is hardly incest to most of Westeros. Hell if Truth of Jon's parentage came out he could marry Sansa and most probably wouldn't give a crap.
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Also the targaryen were a crazy incest family in the first place. Like part of the Jon is targaryen theory (before this episode basically said "yes, yes he is") was him and Dany hook up and he is one of the three heads of the dragon. No one will care a bit if he gets with an aunt or a cousin
 
You know, one would think after the "Family tree looks like a stick shoved in a dead racoon" thing resulted in notables like Aerys and Viserys the Targs would back off the "My uncle, dad, grandfather, cousin, nephew and brother are all the same person" approach.
 
Wade Garrett said:
You know, one would think after the "Family tree looks like a stick shoved in a dead racoon" thing resulted in notables like Aerys and Viserys the Targs would back off the "My uncle, dad, grandfather, cousin, nephew and brother are all the same person" approach.
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Well they were clrealy managing to do something right most of the time when they were in power, they ruled for almost 300 years despite a couple of problematic rulers.

To (sort of) quote Barristan who is in turn quoting Jaehaerys II, Aerys father and Visery grandfather, "Madness and greatness are two sides of the same coin. When a Targaryen is born, the gods toss a coin in the air and the world holds its breath to see how it will land."
 
Xkeizer said:
Well they were clrealy managing to do something right most of the time when they were in power, they ruled for almost 300 years despite a couple of problematic rulers.

To (sort of) quote Barristan who is in turn quoting Jaehaerys II, Aerys father and Visery grandfather, "Madness and greatness are two sides of the same coin. When a Targaryen is born, the gods toss a coin in the air and the world holds its breath to see how it will land."
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"The Great God GRRM said we have dragons and the rest of you don't" doesn't exactly constitute doing something right.

And that barely kept them on the Iron Throne when inbred morons like Maegor were allowed to run things.
 
Someone mentioned one of the reasons Jon might have been called the White Wolf, besides Ghost obiviously. IS that bastards normally can't use the banners of their family and often times even legitmized bastards just reverse the colors on the Sigil, like the Blackfyres did.

Which would mean the King Jon's Sigil would look something like this. (Not Mine BTW)

 
Wade Garrett said:
"The Great God GRRM said we have dragons and the rest of you don't" doesn't exactly constitute doing something right.

And that barely kept them on the Iron Throne when inbred morons like Maegor were allowed to run things.
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I hear that Maegor was given a sort of villain upgrade in one of GRRM's sidebooks.

Makes me kinda sad. My headcanon was always that he did all the hard work and then Jaehaerys just played good cop with the Faith,and so the Faith's propaganda loved him.

EDIT: You know what I forgot from episode 9? Tyrion still fucking hates Theon with his all-the-way-from-the-pilots grudge. Lol. Still a Lannister I guess.
 
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Cunuroi said:
I hear that Maegor was given a sort of villain upgrade in one of GRRM's sidebooks.

Makes me kinda sad. My headcanon was always that he did all the hard work and then Jaehaerys just played good cop with the Faith,and so the Faith's propaganda loved him.
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Not many kings get called the Cruel and have entire torture wings set up in their palace if they're really cool guys.
Cunuroi said:
EDIT: You know what I forgot from episode 9? Tyrion still fucking hates Theon with his all-the-way-from-the-pilots grudge. Lol. Still a Lannister I guess.
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Well he was also around when Theon publicly burned the Stark boys to death. So he might have been pissed off about that.
 
VolantRedX said:
Not many kings get called the Cruel and have entire torture wings set up in their palace if they're really cool guys.
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I don't mean that he was a good guy, I meant that he was an effective guy at putting down the Faith's revolt. Or so it seemed, based on the little we saw within the series proper.

Apparently Martin made him crazier in The World of Ice and Fire. Which is dislike for that reason (that and actually providing a basis for the superstitions of feudal people about "gods flipping a coin" and all)

Well he was also around when Theon publicly burned the Stark boys to death. So he might have been pissed off about that.
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He was pissed at Theon from the pilot, before Theon ever did anything to him.
 
Saw the finale.

Felt nothing but satisfaction. Tom was a tool. The faith was a corrupt Catholic Church in the making. And Jon is king in the north and Azor Ahai.

And Arya gets revenge.
 
Zaru said:
Saw the finale.

Felt nothing but satisfaction. Tom was a tool. The faith was a corrupt Catholic Church in the making. And Jon is king in the north and Azor Ahai.

And Arya gets revenge.
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I agree, it was very cathartic. lots of awesome stuff happened, and I always love to see a bad guy win, as long as they don't break anything that is mine. so Cercei's stuff was awesome too.
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You what mate? Dany is Azor Ahai.
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My theory is that they are both Azor Ahai. simply different aspects.



Also: calling it now, Jaime's definitely gonna back-stab Cercei, that shit she just pulled was exactly why he killed the mad king, and despite his whole 'nothing matters to me but her' speech, I do believe he still has some morals, sure they have been slowely rotting away until little remains, but they are still there, and what Cercei did crosses the line for him. (Plus, all their children are dead now, so he has less holding him back. Kill Cercei, get with Brienne, get pushed back by Tormund. Realize that incest is quite a few steps worse than polygamy and learn to share. live happily ever after)
 
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Well she does that on a regular basis anyway. See: almost everything she's done for the past season and a half
 
wertsir said:
(Plus, all their children are dead now, so he has less holding him back. Kill Cercei, get with Brienne, get pushed back by Tormund. Realize that incest is quite a few steps worse than polygamy and learn to share. live happily ever after)
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More likely, Kill Cersie, kill self, Brienne gets real sad, Tormund dies too somehow, edgy.
 
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