I literally JUST edited that mistake
I turned away from the computer screen, proud of another quality post, and then realized what I had done
no knights of the Eyrie to save me here
I found it silly from the opposite angle: the narrative end.
Well to be fair, Jon also sucks at military strategy and does the one thing he's told not to do by the one person who has any first hand knowledge of what they're up against.
Which makes me shake my head at people who mock Sansa for complaining about not being advised and then not telling him what to change. The one thing she told him not to do, he did. Had he listened to her and not fallen for Ramsay's bait, he could have forced Ramsay to come to him, or at least drag the pre-battle bullshit long enough for the Vale forces to come and smash Ramsay without first losing a ton of people in a suicidal charge into a larger force.
Except Jon falls for a really obvious trap that pulls him out of position and puts him in range of the enemy arrows. A trap he was told to expect and still fell for. Thing is Davos explained that Ramsey needed to defeat Jon if he was to hold the North. Jon could have just sat there and Ramsey would have had to come to him to show that he wasn't the coward Jon called him. Ramsey isn't a creature of restraint, he would be easy to goad into a charge. Instead Jon let him play his mind games and nearly lost instantly because of it. After seeing the Sansa scene I thought when Ramsey sent Rickon running after Jon, Jon would have stayed with his lines knowing it was a trap and pissing Ramsey off that he didn't get to see Jon suffer. That would have made some sense.
Objectively you're right. The framing of the scene was still funny though.
Thing is, once he failed to grab Rickon he should have turned right around and gunned it for his army. Continuing to charge at Ramsay's army solo was suicidal.
I mean the issue is that he was told outright to not fall for the trap and he did anyway. It made Sansa's warning seem totally wasted and empty. It would have been more effective for Jon to start to run, than stop when he realized what was happening and just wait watching, which would piss Ramsey off since he likes watching people suffer and make him act rashly.
That's the sane and rational option. But here's the thing, people, particularly people like Jon who's been in a bad way since he, you know, died, don't always make the most rational decisions when they see their brother murdered in front of them.
I agree, and it turned out Jon really did have a deathwish. He rediscovered his will to live during the battle.
Or just kicked over the stack of dead that was the only thing preventing them from escaping the pikes and flanking them. Seriously I can't get over how stupid that whole thing was. At no time in human history have the dead in a battle stack up like that in an open field. It defies all logic and physics and honestly I don't understand how that was meant to happen.
Even if they did Jon's forces didn't even have armor for the people, much less the horses.I thought about that myself - it seemed to me that Ramsay's archers anticipated he'd retreat - note that when he charges his horse forward, most of the arrows fall the other way. Its possible that if he had turned around he'd have been killed.
Of course, he got his horse shot out from under him anyway, because the show doesn't have awesome barded destriers like the books does
There was quite a long lull between Rickon getting hit by Ramsay's arrow and Ramsay ordering his archers to fire a volley. Like time where Jon was just standing there, staring daggers at Ramsay who was smirking.
